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http://www.graciemag.com/2013/06/and...nderson-silva/“Chris is a strong man and a good wrestler, and he likes doing the hand triangle by passing guard to the right side. I don’t think he’s going to surprise Anderson on the ground,” Galvão told Combate.com. “Unless something unexpected happens, like a hand getting through, because a fight’s a fight … But what we’re telling Anderson to do is be calm, for I believe Weidman doesn’t have much up his sleeve to try and take the belt. I think his only resource is the ground, but the rounds are five minutes long, which is not a lot of time to exert one’s technique over Anderson, who is himself a Jiu-Jitsu black-belt.”
Galvão went on to stress Silva’s calmness when he’s on the bottom, something that may turn out to be crucial.
“I think if he falls inside the guard, Anderson has very long legs, as well as a different positioning, a different vision. We learn a lot from Anderson, too – he’s a very studious guy. If the [Weidman] passes and mounts, it’s going to be just like what we’ve already seen in some other fights. Anderson is very calm. He can get his mind ready for every possible fight situation. I believe Anderson’s in great shape and will be bringing the belt home to Brazil once more.”Comment -
^ Obviously very biased (given that Weidman almost beat Galvao at ADCC and that Anderson is a Brazilian), but I have a great deal of respect for the fact that he gave reasons as to why he believes Anderson will win, rather than just "Anderson is the man, he'll win bro", as many of his training partners and fellow Brazilians are so quick to do. Always been a fan of Galvao, and I do think Weidman isn't going to have an easy time with Anderson on the ground.Comment -
Anderson has had sessions with Werdum and Galvao for this fight.Comment -
Lol I know it's pretty funny he does it even if its a blatant knockdown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORoWtF99Qk 31:45
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theres no reason to take him at his word either tho...maybe hes saving face because he was dominated for 4.5 rounds against someone who talked relentless sh*t about him that he was supposed to run thru...my point is, we dont know so why pretend as if its fact? ive also heard claims anderson wanted to submit sonnen due to him disrespecting the nog brothers so some would have me believe he allowed sonnen to take him down for 4.5 rounds as well just so he could submit him? cmon now...i can only go by what i see in the fight and what is fact...everything else is for the birds...as for the italicized part, when was that ever stated and when has weidman ever shown that to be a part of his game? to just bullrush for TDs? u just pulled that one out of thin air...im just pointing out the obvious based on what weve seen in his fights...silva's weakest part of his game is his wrestling/TDD...if weidman is to beat silva, you can be assured its largley due to his superior wrestling and TD abilities coupled w/ good grappling skills and attacking silva at his weakest point...i think it goes without saying that hed need to set up his shots...thats what succesfull wrestlers do...as for Georges, GSP's weakest area may be his striking but he constantly outstrikes his opponents...we havent seen anderson silva constantly outwrestle his opponents...if anything, in the past couple fights hes been dominated in the wrestling department and has relied on other amazing skills to pull off victories...his elite BJJ has bailed him out at least a couple of times...you say im oversimplyfying, maybe youre just looking way too deep...all i know is, AS was outwrestled the majority of 6 out of 7 rounds by sonnen regardless of any stat...sonnen did exploit silvas weakpoint...silva is the GOAT because he still found a way to win...if ever there was a blueprint to beat silva, sonnen laid it out for us...chris weidman looks like he may have the skills that sonnen lacked to pull it off...well see tho...stylitically this looks like silvas toughest fight in the UFC...Comment -
I never "pretended it was fact", but I believe him, so obviously it will factor into my analysis of the fight. As for the "tried to submit Sonnen" thing, that's actually true. In Anderson's documentary, he tells Big Nog before the fight that he's going to submit Chael, to which Nog replies "no, you will knock him out", and Anderson again tells him that he'll submit Chael. Whether or not that means he let himself get taken down is a lot to infer from that one scene though.
You're acting as if all it will take for Weidman to beat Anderson is for him to wrestlef-ck him; Jordan Burroughs could shoot for a takedown against a prepared Anderson and Anderson would almost always stuff it, even if Burroughs weighed 205.
Uh, really? Anderson took down Marquardt with a switch and then finished him with ground and pound. He took down Hendo, he took down Sonnen, he took down Cote. He's done very well in wrestling against a lot of guys. Just because his "weakest point" by that arbitrary criteria is his wrestling, doesn't mean he's not a good wrestler, just as GSP's "weakest point" being his striking doesn't change the fact that he's one of the best strikers in MMA.
How many times are you going to say "Sonnen outwrestled Silva"? You've said it over and over again, if you're going to reply at least don't post the same thing over and over again in circles. It's a waste of both of our time.Comment -
who doesnt chael outwrestle at middleweight?...anderson had a broken rib in the first fight, the way he strugged off chaels take downs in the second fight proves that, and it also proves anderson has pretty good takedown defense, he just goes all out with his striking and doesn't worry about the takedown as much as others becuase of his confidents in his bjj. weidman will struggle to get him down, not saying he wont get him down, but this is a couple fights now anderson has been able to focas on his wrestling becuase of the opponete he is fighting, and wiedman lacking experience, his layoff of a year never bodes well for any fighter, and his nerviousness of being in only his 10th professional fight against the GOAT, will all amount to wiedman being in mighty dangerious, uncharted waters for him in the first 2 rounds, and he can't afford to come out and just feel anderson out, thats not way to beat anderson, so its either play andersons game, or come at anderson berseker mode like chael and risk making a mistake, more likely he sits back and plays in to andersons game to start, showing anderson too much respect as anderson shows him none and makes him look stupid. i wouldn't be surprised to see weidman come back in 2 years (much improved, with more experience)for the rematch and beat anderson,Last edited by JoshKnows46; 06-29-13, 09:04 PM.Comment -
I agree with a lot of what your saying. Though i will suggest that chael did have some success the second time around. The success he had was a result of him flat out diving in and driving anderson as hard as he could iirc. Weidman doesnt seem like that kind of fighter. I have to wonder if thats good or bad. Weidman might be more technical in his entrances but if he lacks the drive through and brute force he might have trouble. As good as techique is to have i am skeptical weidmans technique will be superior to andersons. Whst would really comcern me if i was betting weidman is anderson silvas reaction time.Comment -
Exactly chael understood that you have to brawl and just use force against a technical fighter such as Anderson, in Chanel's words make it a dog fight and kinda shut off the brain and not over think things, I feel like wiedman will try to out think and out technic Anderson in a sense. Weidmen is a better fighter and better wrestler than chael but I don't believe he's a better matchup than chael, I don't think he'll have a better gameplan, he doesn't have as much experience as chael against dangerous strikers going into the fight, and he isn't in Anderson's head like I believe chael was. People look at weidman's overall better attributes to Chaels and assume he will be a better match-up, and I see a lot more negatives than positives for wiedman as far as match-up goes, not to mention wiedman leaves himself wide open for counters when he strikes, if he doesn't have success early with his first two takedown attempts I don't see it lasting long at all., even his striking he uses going into the takedown is a bit sloppy and open.Comment -
Anderson Silva will knock out Chris Weidman in spectacular fashion.Comment -
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I wonder if these focking phagets are going to cry when their "god" Anderson loses? Will it be bunch of focking excuses? Will it be focking denial? Will they just turn to Cheetos and Mountain Dews to "mitigate" the pain? We will find out soon how these fat focking rejects react. Most likely they turn into "Chris Weidman fans" so they'll be ok.Comment -
How can you be so confident that Weidman is going to win? Obviously if you're a gambler you think Weidman wins x% of the time, but even if it's a ridiculously high number like 85%, there's still a chance he loses. You're speaking as if it's an inevitability that he wins.Comment -
Pal, I don't get into focking "percentages." I see the matchup, I see where strengths and weaknesses are. Weidman holds more advantages. If you want me to focking outline the focking fight for you just hit me up via PM. No need to let me explain shit in this focking phaget forum. Stop being some god damn elitist MMA fock.Comment -
"I just started watching MMA 6 months ago. Saw Anderson Silva HL vids a lot. Know he's gonna win. This honkie mothafocka has no shot. White fock is just all hype, cash a niqqa ticket."Comment -
"Anderson beat Bonnar. Bonnar bigger than Weidman. Anderson wins."Comment -
ok well im skeptical of that so im not factoring an alleged injured rib injury into my analysis, especially when weve seen anderson taken down by less skilled wrestlers then sonnen in previous fights...
never once said that...quite the opposite...i said clearly weidman would need to set up his TDs to be successful...also stated his wrestling abilities coupled w/ his top notch grappling would play a large role in his victory should he win...never once said shoot for TDs automatically equals win...
ask 100 MMA fans whats anderson weakest aspect of his game and you can be assured you get the same 100 answers...GSP is a phenominal striker (not even sure who the hell ever said he had a weak striking game in the 1st place) but Anderson is NOT even close to one of the best wrestlers in MMA so IMO thats a pretty weak comparison...GSPs striking game is not equivalent to Silvas wrestling game...GSP outstrikes his opponents...Silva does not outwrestle his opponents...
ill keep saying it as many as times as you pull out this silly fightmetric stat and keep going along w/ this delusion that sonnen didnt exploit silvas wrestling game...wasnt this the entire main point being made from the jump?Comment -
What does that have to do with anything? One of your justifications for saying that Silva has a weak wrestling game is to repeatedly say "wrestling is the weakest part of Silva's game", which means nothing because striking is the weakest part of GSP's game and he's a great striker. What's to get here? It's not a comparison of GSP's striking to Silva's wrestling, it's illustrating that just because an aspect of a fighter's game is the weakest does not mean that it is bad. Saying "Silva's wrestling is the weakest element of his game" to justify your opinion about his wrestling is silly.
Might want to read my posts bro.
That hasn't been a part of the discussion for quite a few posts, and you continuing to repeat yourself was not in response to me bringing up statistics. Nothing in my post even hinted at the takedown stats.
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Yes, no idea how I could infer from this that you thought Weidman could just take Anderson down.
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edgar is a t-rex with no leverage but he will win this fight easy as penetrate.....Edgar -1300....is what the line should beComment -
Silva by TKO in the 4th....
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"weidmans gonna win cus chael a olympic caliber wrestler, and the best wrestler in the middleweight division for years took anderson down a couple years ago"
anderson didnt have broken ribs for that fight, no way. he didn't improve from that first fight at all, no way.. chaels type of wrestling and set ups are no diffrent the weidmans, no way...
weidman has great mma wrestling like gsp, but he doesn't have just brute, steriod rage like chael haha. chael just put his head down and drove to get his takedowns, he's a pure wrestler... weidman most likely get knocked out trying to set up his first takedown, mma wrestling might work on people that are actually afraid of his striking, anderson wont be afraid of his striking or wrestling which allows him to worry less about if you will take him down or not and just focas on his striking. weidman is more dangerious on the ground than chael, and has a less likely chance of getting submitted, but he also has a less likely chance of last all 5 rounds becuase of the way he leaves him open, and becuase mma wrestling is less of a threat to anderson as it is to slow, much less dangerious strikers with much less dangerious ground games, becuase they are more worried about what weidman will do, where as anderson doesn't mind getting taken down to land his shots cus he'll either knock you out, submit you, or knock you out next time he's back on the feet. mma wrestling will be much less efficent against him. btw wrestling is far from a weak point for anderson, may be his weakest point, but he's pretty good at stopping a takedown.Last edited by JoshKnows46; 06-30-13, 11:38 AM.Comment -
Silva did have sore ribs in that fight, there is a movie called Like Water it shows the whole build up to that fight and in it you see him get hurt. Back to the fight I think your all forgetting that Weidman has to beat Silva to get the win here, Silva could have a boring 5 round fight and still get the win.Comment -
Well Weidman doesn't have to beat Silva ITD to the win. He can win a decision by out wrestling him. I'm on Anderson for the record.Comment -
people look at the match-up as a favorable one, with out taking the situation into account. its a terrible spot for wiedman, fighting on a year layoff with out a real fight, fighting in his biggest fight of his carrier, never facing a dangerious striker close to the caliber of anderson, with a young guy with not much experience, you have to take these things into account, shit with anyone you need to take those things into account, weidman has alot more question marks than anderson when your betting on him where you are hoping he deals with all these things perfectly and makes no mistakes, cus with anderson it just takes one mistake. i also believe there is no such think as a favorable match-up against anderson, he will beat any fighter 70% of the time, with jon jones being the only exeption, and daniel cormier if/when he moves to light heavyweight. he'd beat weidman 70% of the time, without such a terrible situation, thats just forgetting all about all the extra measurables that go along with fightiong the champ, all the extra time dealing with the media, him being young and inexperienced(not even 1/3 of the fights of chael sonnon), the layoff of a year, thats forgeting all that. he isn't chael sonnon, he's a better mma wrestler, not a better match-up against silva. btw chael lost twice if thats what your baseing your play off, how chael did against silva, remember chael lost twice. this line should not be under -450, -240/-260 is a absolute steal of a bet, parlay it with frankie edgar for that extra large pay day.Comment
