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  • GGPLAYER
    SBR MVP
    • 03-26-09
    • 2981

    #1611
    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
    what system is that? A's usually suck, but I have to give them some credit this year; way better then expected, but im on texas well. Texas should be money all season if you manage it right.
    System Integrity
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    • on3
      SBR MVP
      • 08-23-10
      • 2197

      #1612
      Originally posted by Win89
      I thought plays were based on opening lines not midday or closing. Colorado opened below -145 so if they're a play then Yankees and Phillies should be as well. What's the actual method were going by for picking series because it seems like opening lines have gone out the window?
      just as we can demote plays if a line starts at -150 and drops 20 cents, we can promote plays if the odds dictate. if they are fringe plays, we usually rely on the o/u filter.
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      • on3
        SBR MVP
        • 08-23-10
        • 2197

        #1613
        System record 41-4-0; 10-0-0; 1-0-0
        Units -19; +10; +5
        1 unit = $20

        5/18

        #46 -- ny mets @ TOR -160 (A) -- o/u 7.5
        #47 -- pittsburgh @ DET -230/-115 (A) -- o/u 7 -- play RL
        #48 -- cinci @ NYY -165 (A) -- o/u 9.5 -- eligible for 5/2 if (A) loses
        #49 -- boston @ PHI -160 (A) -- o/u 7

        Game 1 win = 25-21; 7-3

        Game 2 win = 15-6; 3-0; 1-0
        Game 3 win = 2-4; 0-0

        Labby Line (regular)


        50-x-x-50
        50-65-67-53
        85-152-126-134

        Labby Line (filter)

        x-10-10-x

        TOR to win 50
        DET to win 50
        NYY to win 50
        PHI to win 53

        NYY to win 20
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        • Win89
          SBR High Roller
          • 11-06-11
          • 157

          #1614
          Originally posted by on3
          just as we can demote plays if a line starts at -150 and drops 20 cents, we can promote plays if the odds dictate. if they are fringe plays, we usually rely on the o/u filter.
          Ok so were not holding plays solely to the opening of -145. Thanks it was a little unclear with some of the previous plays we've had but I see now.
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          • jturn49
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-28-11
            • 114

            #1615
            here's to another big Friday.
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            • on3
              SBR MVP
              • 08-23-10
              • 2197

              #1616
              Come on Phi dont mess with my sweeeeeeeep
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              • xgame
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-21-10
                • 675

                #1617
                sweets Friday.
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                • oklahoma
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-22-10
                  • 602

                  #1618
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                  • WVU9494
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-14-11
                    • 333

                    #1619
                    Bravo from the clown that followed this thread religiously until the last 2 Fridays!!!!!!!!!
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                    • Nino7
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-11-09
                      • 798

                      #1620
                      And i missed both updated plays....zZz
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                      • john360180
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 03-14-12
                        • 27

                        #1621
                        Great work all the way from Sydney Australia.
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                        • J.M. Disciple
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-16-10
                          • 5154

                          #1622
                          Originally posted by on3
                          System record 41-4-0; 10-0-0; 1-0-0
                          Units -19; +10; +5
                          1 unit = $20

                          5/18

                          #46 -- ny mets @ TOR -160 (A) -- o/u 7.5
                          #47 -- pittsburgh @ DET -230/-115 (A) -- o/u 7 -- play RL
                          #48 -- cinci @ NYY -165 (A) -- o/u 9.5 -- eligible for 5/2 if (A) loses
                          #49 -- boston @ PHI -160 (A) -- o/u 7

                          Game 1 win = 25-21; 7-3

                          Game 2 win = 15-6; 3-0; 1-0
                          Game 3 win = 2-4; 0-0

                          Labby Line (regular)


                          50-x-x-50
                          50-65-67-53
                          85-152-126-134

                          Labby Line (filter)

                          x-10-10-x

                          TOR to win 50
                          DET to win 50
                          NYY to win 50
                          PHI to win 53

                          NYY to win 20
                          11.15units won today bringing the system back into the black with a nice sweep. I would still caution people with the heavy lines to lower their unit sizes until your personally in the black again.

                          Congrats
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                          • eric14tsui
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-19-10
                            • 187

                            #1623
                            Home sweep home! Thanks on3.
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                            • on3
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-23-10
                              • 2197

                              #1624
                              see you guys monday.

                              System record 45-4-0; 11-0-0; 1-0-0
                              Units -9; +11; +5
                              1 unit = $20

                              5/19-5/20

                              no plays

                              Game 1 win = 28-21; 8-3

                              Game 2 win = 15-6; 3-0; 1-0
                              Game 3 win = 2-4; 0-0

                              Labby Line (regular)


                              x-x-x-x
                              x-65-67-x
                              85-152-126-134

                              Labby Line (filter)

                              x-x-x-x
                              Last edited by on3; 05-19-12, 09:29 AM.
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                              • boycali01
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 07-12-07
                                • 118

                                #1625
                                i missed the updated plays
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                                • knugen
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-09
                                  • 2612

                                  #1626
                                  on3, what do u mena with your units stats when you write -9; +11; +5??
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                                  • Wallco99
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-01-11
                                    • 7261

                                    #1627
                                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                    11.15units won today bringing the system back into the black with a nice sweep. I would still caution people with the heavy lines to lower their unit sizes until your personally in the black again.

                                    Congrats
                                    You have a different idea of "black" than we do.
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #1628
                                      Originally posted by knugen
                                      on3, what do u mena with your units stats when you write -9; +11; +5??
                                      Units won/lost for non filtered, filtered, and the 5/2 is what's represented by each one of those numbers.
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                                      • knugen
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 2612

                                        #1629
                                        Thx wallco!
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #1630
                                          Originally posted by knugen
                                          Thx wallco!
                                          No problem. You're welcome.
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                                          • dlunc3
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-31-09
                                            • 9129

                                            #1631
                                            JMD..

                                            sorry to bring this up in this thread, but my pms are disabled...

                                            is it true that atari is down approx 50 units in the past 3 weeks? what a turn around, last i had looked he was killing it..
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                                            • J.M. Disciple
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-16-10
                                              • 5154

                                              #1632
                                              Originally posted by dlunc3
                                              JMD..

                                              sorry to bring this up in this thread, but my pms are disabled...

                                              is it true that atari is down approx 50 units in the past 3 weeks? what a turn around, last i had looked he was killing it..
                                              You asked this a couple pages back and I answered.... I dont know the aprox units down, but i would not doubt that #. We adjusted our unit sizes to half to keep from going bust. Very unfortunate season. Seems like your better off flipping a coin this season then picking some of the favorites. Just as I "promoted" him in the past I am not getting anything out of it as I said in the past so I do not hide when he loses either. The way things are going might take an entire month from today before his lines are cleared. Even then with unit sizes cut in half already will take aprox whole season to show a small profit.

                                              so now only thing I will promote is System integrity Labby players up aprox 8 units. Chasing with that system leaves you in the negative. Last season would of been break even at best if you were chasing and labbying would of won aprox 38 units.


                                              Hows your business going? Climbing back into the black yet?
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                                              • dlunc3
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-31-09
                                                • 9129

                                                #1633
                                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                You asked this a couple pages back and I answered.... I dont know the aprox units down, but i would not doubt that #. We adjusted our unit sizes to half to keep from going bust. Very unfortunate season. Seems like your better off flipping a coin this season then picking some of the favorites. Just as I "promoted" him in the past I am not getting anything out of it as I said in the past so I do not hide when he loses either. The way things are going might take an entire month from today before his lines are cleared. Even then with unit sizes cut in half already will take aprox whole season to show a small profit.

                                                so now only thing I will promote is System integrity Labby players up aprox 8 units. Chasing with that system leaves you in the negative. Last season would of been break even at best if you were chasing and labbying would of won aprox 38 units.


                                                Hows your business going? Climbing back into the black yet?

                                                Sorry I missed your previous answer, I am not around this thread as much anymore.. But yea, im not hating by any means, bc I know he killed it in NBA and was doing well to start mlb... was just curious if it were true or not.

                                                Like you said, a lot of poeple and systems have been getting killed so far this yr.. I was personally up 65 units at the beginning of May.. Ive now lost all of that and am trying to battle back, down 15 units right now... been ugly. Im working on trying to adapt to this odd season that has sprung upon us thusfar.

                                                Good to see this system is making a turn for the best the last two weeks.

                                                BOL boys
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                                                • The HOFF
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-02-08
                                                  • 4847

                                                  #1634
                                                  MAY 21
                                                  Orioles vs Red Sox
                                                  Yankees vs Royals
                                                  Rays vs Blue Jays
                                                  Athletics vs Angels
                                                  Mariners vs Rangers
                                                  Marlins vs Rockies
                                                  Phillies vs Nationals
                                                  Reds vs Braves
                                                  Astros vs Cubs
                                                  Brewers vs Giants
                                                  Pirates vs Mets
                                                  Cardinals vs Padres
                                                  D-Backs vs Dodgers
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                                                  • on3
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                    • 2197

                                                    #1635
                                                    System record 45-4-0; 11-0-0; 1-0-0
                                                    Units -9; +11; +5
                                                    1 unit = $20

                                                    5/21

                                                    #50 -- colorado @ MIA -165 (A) -- o/u 8
                                                    #51 -- san diego @ STL -180 (A) -- o/u 7.5
                                                    #52 -- kansas city @ NYY -167 (A) -- o/u 9.5 --
                                                    eligible for 5/2 if (A) loses
                                                    tampa bay might be a play, watch for the update.

                                                    Game 1 win = 28-21; 8-3

                                                    Game 2 win = 15-6; 3-0; 1-0
                                                    Game 3 win = 2-4; 0-0

                                                    Labby Line (regular)


                                                    20-20-20-20
                                                    20-50-52-20
                                                    85-152-96-74

                                                    Labby Line (filter)

                                                    10-10-10-10


                                                    MIA to win 40
                                                    STL to win 40
                                                    NYY to win 40

                                                    NYY to win 20

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                                                    • abv
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 02-09-12
                                                      • 61

                                                      #1636
                                                      I've got a management question for on3. So I was on vacation during the disastrous Boston series a few weeks back and missed those last 2 plays, saving quite a bit a cash, so my lines have been quite a bit smaller than the board's recently. The way it has worked out, as I tend to manipulate my labby the same way you do just with different numbers, my bottom line has been 50.60-77.53-75.41-80.17 where the board has 85-152-126-134. Since the bottom line has stayed the same for a while, I've only been knocking off numbers from the top two, usually playing for about 2/3 of what the board here has been playing so the x-65-67-x is x-38.92-40.12-x for me.

                                                      If I made the same moves as you, creating 6x$20 numbers from the 65,67,126,134 numbers that I have, leaving the first two numbers from the bottom line in tact, I would end up with this:

                                                      20 - 20 - 20 - 20
                                                      20-29.94-31.14-20
                                                      50.60-77.53-30.23-23.31

                                                      However if I were to take my complete labby total and divide it into the board's, then distribute proportionally, I would end up with a labby like this:

                                                      11.56-11.56-11.56-11.56
                                                      11.56-28.90-30.06-11.56
                                                      49.13-87.86-55.49-42.77

                                                      Should I just be thankful that I can play smaller for the same desired eventual winnings or have the wagers gotten small enough to where I can be aggressive and play for the same units the board does? Today for example I would be wagering to win about $90 rather than the $140 the board is if I decide to go with the second labby. Is the safer play the smart play? Thanks
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                                                      • on3
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-23-10
                                                        • 2197

                                                        #1637
                                                        ^ yes, i would maintain your lines and proceed with the same structure. it looks like youre set up well.
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                                                        • darkmatter117
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-10-12
                                                          • 104

                                                          #1638
                                                          Yanks-Royals O/U has dropped to 8.5. Limit would have to confirm, but I assume the backtests for 5/2 used closing lines. Just something to be aware of.

                                                          EDIT: Looks like it closed at 9, though.
                                                          Last edited by darkmatter117; 05-22-12, 06:31 AM.
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                                                          • juice050
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 11-19-10
                                                            • 367

                                                            #1639
                                                            yanks suck
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                                                            • thelimit0310
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-24-11
                                                              • 1233

                                                              #1640
                                                              Covers has the closing O/U on the Yanks series at 8.5. They are not a 5/2 play.
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                                                              • on3
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-23-10
                                                                • 2197

                                                                #1641
                                                                per thelimit, NYY is not a 5/2 play. but we will be playing them filtered.

                                                                System record 47-4-0; 11-0-0; 1-0-0
                                                                Units -8.5; +9.5; +5
                                                                1 unit = $20

                                                                5/22

                                                                #52 -- kansas city @ NYY -175 (B)
                                                                #53 -- minnesota @ CHW -150 (A) -- o/u 8.5


                                                                Game 1 win = 30-22; 8-4

                                                                Game 2 win = 15-6; 3-0; 1-0
                                                                Game 3 win = 2-4; 0-0

                                                                Labby Line (regular)


                                                                x-x-20-53
                                                                x-50-52-33
                                                                85-152-96-74

                                                                Labby Line (filter)

                                                                10-10-10-43


                                                                NYY to win 83
                                                                CHW to win 53

                                                                NYY to win 53
                                                                Last edited by on3; 05-22-12, 12:03 PM.
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                                                                • jcygts6
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-05-09
                                                                  • 3316

                                                                  #1642
                                                                  Lets go pinstripes!
                                                                  DO WORK + KROW OD
                                                                  do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                                                  od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                                                  • oklahoma
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-22-10
                                                                    • 602

                                                                    #1643
                                                                    Whitesox start 3game series against Twins tonight, opened at -170.
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                                                                    • on3
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-23-10
                                                                      • 2197

                                                                      #1644
                                                                      Originally posted by oklahoma
                                                                      Whitesox start 3game series against Twins tonight, opened at -170.
                                                                      thanks buddy, just updated. CHW currently at -150ish
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                                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                                        • 5154

                                                                        #1645
                                                                        Whats the best site to use for opening lines for a back test? Covers.com is all based off closing lines correct?
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