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  • Love The Action
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-08-10
    • 10952

    #5496
    Originally posted by Redscot
    Good points....trusting the source here....but I guess we better wait for further confirmation on that one.

    Really liking St. Louis and Houston today at + money. Wandy at home, Atlanta struggling against LHP, Delgado not gonna like Holbrooks zone....still, seems like a popular play atm, kinda scaring me off a bit.
    Those dudes at CPG are pretty fanatical about their umps, so it would not surprise me to see Davis. I don't think he changes my thoughts on that game much....it would be extra sweet to get Gibson and a total of 8. Instead, I'm expecting to see the under juiced at 7.5 on the open.

    While I like STL in theory, I am not so sure they can pull off the sweep today. For all of his faults, Cueto certainly has the ability to have a solid outing against a team that will be without one of its main guys in Berkman. Garcia has typically fared well against Cincy in the past, but it was a small sample and Cincy should once again have good numbers against lefties. STL is coming out of the gates, but this will be a tough one to win. It will be impressive if they can pull off the early season sweep against one of their main divisional challengers. I think the price is accurate in that +117 to +120 range. If you can get on your local's slow moving lines around the opener of +130, that's a much stronger play. If you are getting +113 range, then not so much.

    Wandy....I love backing him at home but I wish the books were giving us more than the +113 right now. Houston is Houston after all with not much pop in that lineup and a lot of unproven commodaties. Despite Holbrook, I like the under as well as Houston. I can currently get 8 -115 on the under which intrigues me with most of the market still at 7.5. What are your thoughts on Delgado this year? I think he might prove successful on some unders the first time through the league and then maybe reevaluate once he starts seeing lineups multiple times. He definitely got lucky in his starts late last season with an ultra low BABIP, high LOB% and fielding independent numbers. Still not sure about this game, but lean Houston and under. Good luck today buddy.
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    • Love The Action
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-08-10
      • 10952

      #5497
      Hey Red,

      Is Johan Santana fully healed and ready to go. Can we trust him? How are the bullpens in that Mets/Natties game looking? I like the under. Vanover consistently has a high strike rate so his overall O/U record does not concern me.

      Same with Josh Johnson...do you think he's ready to roll? He looked OK his first time out, nothing spectacular. I like the under in that game as well. Another so-so ump with Tschida, but I think this sets up well for the under.
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      • Redscot
        SBR MVP
        • 05-16-11
        • 2571

        #5498
        Originally posted by Love The Action
        Hey Red,

        Is Johan Santana fully healed and ready to go. Can we trust him? How are the bullpens in that Mets/Natties game looking? I like the under. Vanover consistently has a high strike rate so his overall O/U record does not concern me.

        Same with Josh Johnson...do you think he's ready to roll? He looked OK his first time out, nothing spectacular. I like the under in that game as well. Another so-so ump with Tschida, but I think this sets up well for the under.
        First, on Delgado....I like the movement he gets on his pitches and he has pretty good polish for his age. That being his control concerns me a bit. Usually that is associated with Power pitchers or, Zany lefties (who understands them ), and correlates with them missing bats at a high %. He seems to be league average in that department, not along term recipe for stardom. Still, I think he could have some early success with his movement and the unfamiliarity angle. I think much will depend on what typeof lineups he faces, young and undisciplined he will probably have them chasing, a veteran/patient lineup could be combustible.

        Johan is a battler. I'd go to war with that dude any day...how much remains is yet to be seen. He made guys miss in his first start despite his fastball being down a couple of ticks (it is starting to get into danger zone there, under 89 even for a crafty lefty) but he still remains that 10 mph difference between it and his change, the deception remains the same In his first start he implemented a slider/cutter a lot more than years past, perhaps a compensation for the loss of mph. That pitch is in between his FB and Change, and could be really success full for him. I'm inclined to think he finds a way to get it done if he stays healthy, but I don't think he's an ace anymore.

        Johnson is a beast, I love watching him pitch. His Fastball has its juice, I don't think he's lost much if any velocity. My one concern is how confident he is in his shoulder and how that translates to him throwing his secondary pitches which can be more arm taxing. He threw almost 75% fastballs in his first start, something he can get away with with his "heavy" ball and ability to induce grounders. If he stays healthy I think he returns to ACE status quickly.
        Last edited by Redscot; 04-11-12, 08:53 AM.
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        • Redscot
          SBR MVP
          • 05-16-11
          • 2571

          #5499
          Originally posted by Love The Action
          Hey Red,

          Is Johan Santana fully healed and ready to go. Can we trust him? How are the bullpens in that Mets/Natties game looking? I like the under. Vanover consistently has a high strike rate so his overall O/U record does not concern me.

          Same with Josh Johnson...do you think he's ready to roll? He looked OK his first time out, nothing spectacular. I like the under in that game as well. Another so-so ump with Tschida, but I think this sets up well for the under.
          Forgot the Bullpens. I suppose they are good to go for whatever that is worth. Mets have their full compliment of Byrdek, Ramirez, Rauch and Francisco. I think Rauch and Francisco run into problems at some point this year,but there is good depth in the pen. Washington has their lefty specialist (he only threw 5 pitches last night) and Clippard should be good to go in a tight game. Don't knowif they would go Lidge back to back or try the flame thrower Rodriguez to close it out today (that could be a bit of a wild card)
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          • Redscot
            SBR MVP
            • 05-16-11
            • 2571

            #5500
            All those letfies in the Cleveland lineup against the lefty Danks....but if you look under the hood, Danks has not fared significantly better against lefties over his career and even has a better k/bb ratio against righties.
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #5501
              I personally think you're getting the kind of prices on Johan and JJ that you just won't see later this year. Just my take.
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              • Redscot
                SBR MVP
                • 05-16-11
                • 2571

                #5502
                No Berkman, Beltran or freese for St. Louis today.


                1. Rafael Furcal (S) SS

                2. Jon Jay (L) CF
                3. Matt Holliday (R) LF
                4. Matt Carpenter (L) 1B
                5. Yadier Molina (R) C
                6. Daniel Descalso (L) 3B
                7. Tyler Greene (R) 2B
                8. Erik Komatsu (L) RF
                9. Jaime Garcia (L
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #5503
                  Originally posted by Redscot
                  How have the current Reds fared vs. Garcia in the past?
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                  • Redscot
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-16-11
                    • 2571

                    #5504
                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                    How have the current Reds fared vs. Garcia in the past?
                    He has dominated them, Stubbs only guy with some success. Small sample of course.
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #5505
                      Originally posted by Redscot
                      He has dominated them, Stubbs only guy with some success. Small sample of course.
                      Interesting that the total's moving toward the over. Given the lineups out there and the lack of scoring in this series, I figured at the very least we'd be seeing the total juiced to the under at this point.

                      Edit: Not anymore.
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                      • BiffTFinancial
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-29-09
                        • 22670

                        #5506
                        Originally posted by Love The Action
                        How do we know it's Davis in Cleveland and not Gibson? Sometimes they rotate after a rainout and sometimes they stick with the original ump. I'm hoping it's Gibson and the total comes out at 7.5 or 8. I like the under in that game at the right number/price.
                        under in Cleveland definitely has potential. had snow overnight, bitter cold (although the sun is out right now) and wind straight in off the lake.
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #5507
                          Originally posted by BiffTFinancial
                          under in Cleveland definitely has potential. had snow overnight, bitter cold (although the sun is out right now) and wind straight in off the lake.
                          I was looking at that as well Biff.
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                          • BiffTFinancial
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-29-09
                            • 22670

                            #5508
                            Originally posted by No coincidences
                            I was looking at that as well Biff.
                            if Gibson's the ump, i'm definitely on it. if Davis, not as bullish, but still hard to pass. good news is that, while weather's cold, it's clear and shouldn't be much chance of rain/snow delay (which is always bad news for an under).
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                            • RoadDog
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-11-11
                              • 2666

                              #5509
                              Under for sure. White Sox can't touch Masterson. He won't allow a run.
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                              • Pick'nParlays
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-22-08
                                • 3134

                                #5510
                                what will timmys ml be when sf finally has him at home?
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                                • Love The Action
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-08-10
                                  • 10952

                                  #5511
                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                  MLB 2012 Regular Season 4/11/2012

                                  Play #1

                                  Devil Rays/Tigers under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                  While I do expect a regression for Shields, he is much better than he displayed against the Yankees. For the season, I think we can expect a season similar to what he had in 2008 with a 3.5 ERA and 3.7ish SIERA. For this game, I think he pitches well and bounces back from that Yankee outing. Verlander is pretty much on autopilot already so there's no reason not to expect a solid performances. The wind should not be a factor but the weather will be cold and wet, which is just how we like it for the under. The ump is Blaser who is relatively new, but I see nothing in his past that overly concerns me. I have this play set exactly at 6 and it's going to take a final score of 8 to beat us so I am rolling with the under for 1x.

                                  Play #2

                                  Giants ML (-118) 1x (Locked)

                                  I suppose this is a "square" play, but just like I expect Shields to bounce back I also expect a better performance from Timmy than we saw opening day. As much as I am also backing Timmy, there's never a bad opportunity to fade Guthrie, especially with SF's offense emerging. Most books opened around -130 but saw early Rocky money. To be honest, I just don't see it and I will back the better pitcher with value. I have SF set at -125 giving us 7 cents of value in this game and I am rolling with the Giants for 1x. Good luck.

                                  Play #3

                                  White Sox/Indians under (7) 1x (Locked)

                                  Play #4

                                  Marlins/Phillies under (6)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                  No time for writeups. Good luck.
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                                  • Love The Action
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-08-10
                                    • 10952

                                    #5512
                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                    MLB 2012 Regular Season 4/11/2012

                                    Play #1

                                    Devil Rays/Tigers under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                    While I do expect a regression for Shields, he is much better than he displayed against the Yankees. For the season, I think we can expect a season similar to what he had in 2008 with a 3.5 ERA and 3.7ish SIERA. For this game, I think he pitches well and bounces back from that Yankee outing. Verlander is pretty much on autopilot already so there's no reason not to expect a solid performances. The wind should not be a factor but the weather will be cold and wet, which is just how we like it for the under. The ump is Blaser who is relatively new, but I see nothing in his past that overly concerns me. I have this play set exactly at 6 and it's going to take a final score of 8 to beat us so I am rolling with the under for 1x.

                                    Play #2

                                    Giants ML (-118) 1x (Locked)

                                    I suppose this is a "square" play, but just like I expect Shields to bounce back I also expect a better performance from Timmy than we saw opening day. As much as I am also backing Timmy, there's never a bad opportunity to fade Guthrie, especially with SF's offense emerging. Most books opened around -130 but saw early Rocky money. To be honest, I just don't see it and I will back the better pitcher with value. I have SF set at -125 giving us 7 cents of value in this game and I am rolling with the Giants for 1x. Good luck.

                                    Play #3

                                    White Sox/Indians under (7) 1x (Locked)

                                    Play #4

                                    Marlins/Phillies under (6)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                    No time for writeups. Good luck.

                                    Play #5

                                    Nationals/Mets under (6.5)(-120) 1x (Locked)


                                    Good luck.
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                                    • Love The Action
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-08-10
                                      • 10952

                                      #5513
                                      Lot of good under opprtunites today with great pitching matchups, wind blowing in, cold weather and decent under umps. I have at least .9 of value or more on each of those plays and I expect the prices to move in our favor soon so im locking them up now. Also like a few more. Good luck today.
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                                      • Redscot
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-16-11
                                        • 2571

                                        #5514
                                        Originally posted by Love The Action
                                        Lot of good under opprtunites today with great pitching matchups, wind blowing in, cold weather and decent under umps. I have at least .9 of value or more on each of those plays and I expect the prices to move in our favor soon so im locking them up now. Also like a few more. Good luck today.
                                        Really liking the card today my man. I'm on the bench today (local working on their server), so will be rooting along from the sidelines. Couple of days off left, so kicking back and enjoying the games. GL
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                                        • Love The Action
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-08-10
                                          • 10952

                                          #5515
                                          Originally posted by Redscot
                                          Really liking the card today my man. I'm on the bench today (local working on their server), so will be rooting along from the sidelines. Couple of days off left, so kicking back and enjoying the games. GL
                                          Do you have books in the casinos down there in the DR?
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                                          • Redscot
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-16-11
                                            • 2571

                                            #5516
                                            Originally posted by Love The Action
                                            Do you have books in the casinos down there in the DR?
                                            I could go to various betting sites close to my home, but I have my BR in the one that is shut for a couple of days. Don't want to come out of pocket for the plays (gotta have rules in this game, I have implemented a lot more discipline after following you) so will just kick back and watch some baseball today. My local said he should be up tomorrow. BTW I killed the early lines Golden Goose in NCAA Basketball. Went on a run of like 70% betting half the card for a month and he adjusted. No more early lines for Red .....in fact it is so bad he now puts them in at like 11 am. Gonna start shopping around for another local me thinks.
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                                            • guil0000
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-18-11
                                              • 472

                                              #5517
                                              This is by far the best baseball thread on the net I love reading all you guys keep it up!
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                                              • guil0000
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 01-18-11
                                                • 472

                                                #5518
                                                Btw any thoughts on Pittsburgh (Bedard) vs Dodgers (Billingley)? It was one of the first that popped to me. Bedard has better advanced numbers and has the unfamiliarity angle going
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                                                • Love The Action
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                  • 10952

                                                  #5519
                                                  Originally posted by Redscot
                                                  I could go to various betting sites close to my home, but I have my BR in the one that is shut for a couple of days. Don't want to come out of pocket for the plays (gotta have rules in this game, I have implemented a lot more discipline after following you) so will just kick back and watch some baseball today. My local said he should be up tomorrow. BTW I killed the early lines Golden Goose in NCAA Basketball. Went on a run of like 70% betting half the card for a month and he adjusted. No more early lines for Red .....in fact it is so bad he now puts them in at like 11 am. Gonna start shopping around for another local me thinks.
                                                  Ouch.....but its about time he made that move. You've been killing him for more than year with those stale lines lol. Definately time to for you to expand your options. GL
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #5520
                                                    Originally posted by guil0000
                                                    Btw any thoughts on Pittsburgh (Bedard) vs Dodgers (Billingley)? It was one of the first that popped to me. Bedard has better advanced numbers and has the unfamiliarity angle going
                                                    I love Bedard and the Pirates here personally.
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                                                    • Love The Action
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                      • 10952

                                                      #5521
                                                      Looks like gerry davis is the ump in cleveland. Obvoiously would have preferred gibson, but it does not change my thoughts on the game....
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                                                      • comala57
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-31-11
                                                        • 421

                                                        #5522
                                                        dang Chicago got 4 in the 1st. Hope they slow down for the under. I only have it for a half unit but lost 2 out of every 3 bets yesterday and hope today is better.
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                                                        • SoxSide Irish
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 01-08-12
                                                          • 184

                                                          #5523
                                                          Good start for sox but terrible start for our under...masterson is off
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                                                          • Love The Action
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 10952

                                                            #5524
                                                            Well that was quick and very painful lol....masterson must have been out drinking last night. Onto the next one...
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                                                            • Child's Play
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-17-12
                                                              • 101

                                                              #5525
                                                              Cleveland won't put up more than 2 runs. You'll need the pitching staff to shut down the WSox for the rest of the game - which is definitely a possibility.

                                                              However, liking a lot of the unders today as well, but totals are not my thing... Still found value in playing the Nats/Mets and Brewers/Cubs unders. Good luck today.
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                                                              • Sidetracked
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-21-09
                                                                • 751

                                                                #5526
                                                                i like the giants play but i just cant pull the trigger on it, goodluck
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                                                                • Love The Action
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                                  • 10952

                                                                  #5527
                                                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                  MLB 2012 Regular Season 4/11/2012

                                                                  Play #1

                                                                  Devil Rays/Tigers under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                                                  While I do expect a regression for Shields, he is much better than he displayed against the Yankees. For the season, I think we can expect a season similar to what he had in 2008 with a 3.5 ERA and 3.7ish SIERA. For this game, I think he pitches well and bounces back from that Yankee outing. Verlander is pretty much on autopilot already so there's no reason not to expect a solid performances. The wind should not be a factor but the weather will be cold and wet, which is just how we like it for the under. The ump is Blaser who is relatively new, but I see nothing in his past that overly concerns me. I have this play set exactly at 6 and it's going to take a final score of 8 to beat us so I am rolling with the under for 1x.

                                                                  Play #2

                                                                  Giants ML (-118) 1x (Locked)

                                                                  I suppose this is a "square" play, but just like I expect Shields to bounce back I also expect a better performance from Timmy than we saw opening day. As much as I am also backing Timmy, there's never a bad opportunity to fade Guthrie, especially with SF's offense emerging. Most books opened around -130 but saw early Rocky money. To be honest, I just don't see it and I will back the better pitcher with value. I have SF set at -125 giving us 7 cents of value in this game and I am rolling with the Giants for 1x. Good luck.

                                                                  Play #3

                                                                  White Sox/Indians under (7) 1x (Locked)

                                                                  Play #4

                                                                  Marlins/Phillies under (6)(+100) 1x (Locked)

                                                                  No time for writeups. Good luck.

                                                                  Play #5

                                                                  Nationals/Mets under (6.5)(-120) 1x (Locked)


                                                                  Good luck.


                                                                  Play #6

                                                                  Brewers/Cubs under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)


                                                                  Just out of a meeting and able to post now. Good luck if you can still get on it.
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                                                                  • bmur714
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 02-10-12
                                                                    • 189

                                                                    #5528
                                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action


                                                                    Play #6

                                                                    Brewers/Cubs under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)


                                                                    Just out of a meeting and able to post now. Good luck if you can still get on it.
                                                                    Got it at 7.5 -130... I know all the value is gone but had to pull the trigger my local didn't drop it down

                                                                    BOL today LTA!
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                                                                    • JM92
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-27-12
                                                                      • 1140

                                                                      #5529
                                                                      Originally posted by Love The Action


                                                                      Play #6

                                                                      Brewers/Cubs under (7)(+100) 1x (Locked)


                                                                      Just out of a meeting and able to post now. Good luck if you can still get on it.
                                                                      Missed it pre-game by two minutes. Will try to get at least -110 live with the same number. Otherwise I'll pass. thanks for the play.

                                                                      edit: wow actually the game started earlier than I though. and guess what? got the play and at + 100. if anyone wants this right now, go to bet365 and in case you have an account that pull the trigger!
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                                                                      • SeverusSousa
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 04-16-11
                                                                        • 20

                                                                        #5530
                                                                        I understand the basic rules of baseball, not more. Shouldn't the Tigers put Valverde in the mound at the start of the 9th inning to close the game? They only had a 2 run lead, why keep a pitcher (Verlander) that was already over 100 pitches? Is it a common decision?
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