2014 JM MLB Thread

[hagball52]

Totals Plays 45-40 (+5.91 / +4.10 units) win pctg. 52.9%


04/27 There are no plays that meet criteria

04/28 CLE @ LAA over 8 (+108)

[Wallco99]

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[Wallco99]

So why are you and the limit giving this system attention? Not sure I understand.. While jm is slow, why not just pick up a system like On3s?

Best of luck and I hope this system does well, but just not sure I see any credibility.

That's true, good point. I won't post the plays anymore until the full backtest with (A) (B) (C) and (D) gets posted in this thread. Someone else may post the plays if the system's history doesn't concern them.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
(A) 0-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 2-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 1-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 2-1


Next Plays
Official
04/28 Oakland (.503) @ Texas (.513) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set

Upcoming plays
05/16 NY Mets @ Washington
05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets
05/26 Houston @ Kansas City

Notes: Got our first official play of the season today. We picked up one future play yesterday.
08/21 CIN v ATL

The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.

[hagball52]

Allidoiswins, There are some questions about your system pertaining to backtests and results. I know Wallco can be a real pain at times but what he does do is command accuracy and excellence and I thank him for that. It has helped this thread operate at a high level. You mentioned that you posted the backtest results in last years thread so I went back and read through the first 10 pages and found the post (shown below) on page 4 post #127. Now you claimed that over time the unofficial plays showed no actual profit over time but your results are a combination of both official and unofficial.I am hoping that you have your results archived and can elaborate on your results by separating the official from the unofficial and give an accounting of the (A), (B), (C) and (D) levels of performance. I have already started to build a spreadsheet to track and post your plays and would be willing to do it provided we could support your claims of performance. I know last year you used Covers.com for results and I believe you were in the profit at the end of the season so your system seems very promising and I think everyone in this thread would like to follow it providing it had a little more credibility.

Page 4 post #127 from the 2013 JM MLB thread

Done with the back test

2012
+43 units

2011
+100 units

2010
+33 units

2009
+25 units

2008
+35 units

[allidoiswin89]

Allidoiswins, There are some questions about your system pertaining to backtests and results. I know Wallco can be a real pain at times but what he does do is command accuracy and excellence and I thank him for that. It has helped this thread operate at a high level. You mentioned that you posted the backtest results in last years thread so I went back and read through the first 10 pages and found the post (shown below) on page 4 post #127. Now you claimed that over time the unofficial plays showed no actual profit over time but your results are a combination of both official and unofficial.I am hoping that you have your results archived and can elaborate on your results by separating the official from the unofficial and give an accounting of the (A), (B), (C) and (D) levels of performance. I have already started to build a spreadsheet to track and post your plays and would be willing to do it provided we could support your claims of performance. I know last year you used Covers.com for results and I believe you were in the profit at the end of the season so your system seems very promising and I think everyone in this thread would like to follow it providing it had a little more credibility.

Page 4 post #127 from the 2013 JM MLB thread

Done with the back test

2012
+43 units

2011
+100 units

2010
+33 units

2009
+25 units

2008
+35 units

I'll look but im guessing I dont have the breakouts anymore. Switched computers so it might be archived somewhere but dont plan on it. Ive already began researching football so very little spare time these days.

Thanks for digging up the numbers though. I knew they were posted at one point in time. I could really care less about Wallcos anal behavior. Id rather have him spend his time trying to revamp his systems than trolling around the threads.

As you said, last year showed profit in line with what my backtest numbers showed. Dont blame people if they dont want to follow. Rules are out there so thats not stopping anyone from doing their own backtest. Play at your own risk.

Wallco hates spoon feeding everyone yet he asks for the same treatment. As far as im concerned, I dont care to adhere to hilarious demands from someone who has highs and lows on this forum. Relax....

[allidoiswin89]

4/28
No plays

[hagball52]

Totals Plays 45-40 (+5.91 / +4.10 units) win pctg. 52.9%


04/27 There are no plays that meet criteria

04/28 CLE @ LAA over 8 (+108)

04/29 TAM @ BOS under 9 (+108)

I'll update the page in the morning. Just wanted to get the next play out for line movement purposes.

[reddevils64]

Hey Snark,
Just noticed your question about the Exterminator System, have you found out any info regarding this ? I'm interested in it also to see how it works but can't find any info on it.

[hagball52]

Hey Snark,
Just noticed your question about the Exterminator System, have you found out any info regarding this ? I'm interested in it also to see how it works but can't find any info on it.

I'm assuming his Exterminator System for MLB is very similar to his NBA system he just spreads it out and entices people to send him more money. If you go to the JM NBA thread it's in there but basically it's just skipping the (A) bets of his system plays and then if they lose you just flat bet the (B) and (C) bets. No rocket science involved here.

[shevabets]

Offtopic:

I'm looking for a loan of 500 betpoints. This is going to be spent immediately as part of a 7200x2 (total 144000) bet point purchase to get cash at a new account with one of SBR sponsor books. The idea is to get this cash a.s.a.p. while nba playoff betting opportunities are still abundant and 5x rollover is relatively easy to accomplish.

I believe the typical going rate is around 100 pts in one month (http://forum.sbrforum.com/betpoints/...n-30-days.html) but I'm willing to pay twice the going rate:

You lend me 500 today, 4/29
I pay back 700 no later than 5/29 (and likely much sooner)

Please PM me or just send 500 if the above is acceptable. TYVM

[dlunc3]

Offtopic:

I'm looking for a loan of 500 betpoints. This is going to be spent immediately as part of a 7200x2 (total 144000) bet point purchase to get cash at a new account with one of SBR sponsor books. The idea is to get this cash a.s.a.p. while nba playoff betting opportunities are still abundant and 5x rollover is relatively easy to accomplish.

I believe the typical going rate is around 100 pts in one month (http://forum.sbrforum.com/betpoints/...n-30-days.html) but I'm willing to pay twice the going rate:

You lend me 500 today, 4/29
I pay back 700 no later than 5/29 (and likely much sooner)

Please PM me or just send 500 if the above is acceptable. TYVM

sent

[Wallco99]

I'll look but im guessing I dont have the breakouts anymore. Switched computers so it might be archived somewhere but dont plan on it. Ive already began researching football so very little spare time these days.

Thanks for digging up the numbers though. I knew they were posted at one point in time. I could really care less about Wallcos anal behavior. Id rather have him spend his time trying to revamp his systems than trolling around the threads.

As you said, last year showed profit in line with what my backtest numbers showed. Dont blame people if they dont want to follow. Rules are out there so thats not stopping anyone from doing their own backtest. Play at your own risk.

Wallco hates spoon feeding everyone yet he asks for the same treatment. As far as im concerned, I dont care to adhere to hilarious demands from someone who has highs and lows on this forum. Relax....

You really are warped. These people for whom you say I don't wish to spoonfeed, have NEVER once been asked to "run" my systems for me. And if for some strange reason that I would ask them to do that, I would make sure they were fully equipped with all backtests for system, and all system rules listed on one page. This is something I, and most people on here do anyway. When I first started posting the plays for you, I asked you for both of these items on several occasions. I even sent you a PM asking if you could forward me the rules, since you were changing the rules along the way and the rules were scattered throughout several different posts. But could you do that? NO, of course not. So for some stupid reason, I posted your plays anyway. When dlunc asked why I was posting plays to an unclear and unproven system, when all of my previous posting was backed up with legible rules and proven backtests, I had to agree. Clarity, consistency, and proven track records are important to me, though they seem irrelevant to you. If it is too much trouble to give me the necessary information so I can help you out and attach my name to your plays, then do it your damn self. If you consider giving me this information, after asking me to post your system for you, as spoonfeeding, then you really are an idiot. I am not making any demands, I really don't give a crap if I post the plays or not. The info I have asked you for several times has also been asked by other members, which means it needs to be posted, if anyone is going to take it seriously. I really don't know why you feel the need to make such a big deal out of doing something that we all do when posting systems in these threads.

[Wallco99]

sent

I can only do 2 points, no help here.

[shevabets]

Totals Plays 45-40 (+5.91 / +4.10 units) win pctg. 52.9%


04/27 There are no plays that meet criteria

04/28 CLE @ LAA over 8 (+108)

04/29 TAM @ BOS under 9 (+108)

I'll update the page in the morning. Just wanted to get the next play out for line movement purposes.

Thanks for posting early. Although +108 on the under was only available at one book out of a dozen, at least I now see their prices are (more or less) credible. More of the same please

[shevabets]

sent

Thanks. Should be paid back within two weeks.

[hagball52]

Thanks for posting early. Although +108 on the under was only available at one book out of a dozen, at least I now see their prices are (more or less) credible. More of the same please

Yeah I only have a few accounts so I never get their posted lines but have won a few when they pushed so I'm hoping it averages out over time.

P.S. would have gladly given you the points had not dlunc3 beat me to it.

[hagball52]

Totals Plays 46-40 (+6.99 / +5.10 units) win pctg. 53.5%


04/28 CLE @ LAA over 8 (+108) win

04/29 TAM @ BOS under 9 (+108)

[hagball52]

I can only do 2 points, no help here.

Wallco, I think if they are pro you can send more.

[Wallco99]

Wallco, I think if they are pro you can send more.

Did not know that. Thanks.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2014 Official season series record 1-0 (V1)
(A) 1-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 2-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 1-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 2-1


Official
04/28 Oakland (.503) @ Texas (.513) R/L / M/L(A)WIN

Next Plays
To be determined

Upcoming plays
05/16 NY Mets @ Washington
05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets
05/26 Houston @ Kansas City

Notes: Nice to pick up the (A) bet win on our first official play of the season. Hopefully the sweeps will pick up a bit. Last season at this point we had logged 30 series plays to only 14 this season. At this rate it could be a really lean year for plays.

The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.

[shevabets]

No worries hagball52. Quality, not quantity!

[allidoiswin89]

@Wallco...Im making a big deal about it?!?! lol...take a look in the mirror. I said from day 1 last year, i was posting this system because its profitable. Ive said follow at your own risk. Im not on here to gather a following and try to be king of SBR like you are.

And if you didnt give a crap about the system, you would have shut up a long time ago...

Ill let ur 2000 word essay do the rest of my talking.

[Wallco99]

@Wallco...Im making a big deal about it?!?! lol...take a look in the mirror. I said from day 1 last year, i was posting this system because its profitable. Ive said follow at your own risk. Im not on here to gather a following and try to be king of SBR like you are.

And if you didnt give a crap about the system, you would have shut up a long time ago...

Ill let ur 2000 word essay do the rest of my talking.

You got it...amateur! King you are not.

[allidoiswin89]

Hag, are you going to continue to track the units? If so, ill try my best to get the plays in until you have more time available.

Last play was Toronto under which won. Dont believe there was an unit update since then. Also, as far the unit count goes, Wallco requested last year to use a sites number outside of my bookies (complaints started then yet he's still following...), thus we are using covers. However, cover gets + money (I.e. +105) quite a bit. Causes more work which is ridiculous as I very rarely get those lines with my service. Thus making this and almost all of Wallco systems point a little more upwards....interesting

[allidoiswin89]

Over/Under System

4/29
No plays

[reddevils64]

Hey Hangball52,

Must give you credit for all the work you put in.

Can you tell me if Texas is a V2 play today?

[hagball52]

Hag, are you going to continue to track the units? If so, ill try my best to get the plays in until you have more time available.

Last play was Toronto under which won. Dont believe there was an unit update since then. Also, as far the unit count goes, Wallco requested last year to use a sites number outside of my bookies (complaints started then yet he's still following...), thus we are using covers. However, cover gets + money (I.e. +105) quite a bit. Causes more work which is ridiculous as I very rarely get those lines with my service. Thus making this and almost all of Wallco systems point a little more upwards....interesting

I'm going to try and do it but I won't be able to start tracking plays until next week and won't be able to start posting until after the 20th of May. I've got finals this week and then grading and evaluations next week and then off on a little break after that.

[hagball52]

Hey Hangball52,

Must give you credit for all the work you put in.

Can you tell me if Texas is a V2 play today?

No. The play was on Oakland so no V2 and Texas was not .025 higher in rpi so no V3 either.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2014 Official season series record 1-0 (V1)
(A) 1-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 0-0
V3 system 2-0
Unofficial series 5-0
(A) 3-2
(B) 1-1
(C) 1-0
(D) 0-0
V2 plays 2-1

Next Plays
To be determined

Upcoming plays
05/16 NY Mets @ Washington
05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets
05/26 Houston @ Kansas City

Notes: There are 4 possible sweeps today with future plays. At this point it looks like our next series play won't be for a few weeks.

The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.

[hagball52]

Totals Plays 46-41 (+5.99 / +3.85 units) win pctg. 52.9%


04/29 TAM @ BOS under 9 (+108) loss

04/30 There are no plays that meet criteria

Unfortunately I had -125 on yesterdays play.

[allidoiswin89]

Over/Under System

4/30
No plays

[hagball52]

Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system 2014
Official season series record: 0-0
Unofficial season series record: 20-2

series losses (CHC 04/13 18.00 units, SFO 04/22 17.9 units) I switched back to Covers.com

Last Play(s) results:

04/27/14
TOR under (A) WIN

Official Plays
(A) 0-0
(B) 0-0
(C) 0-0
(D) 0-0
Unofficial Plays
(A) 13-9
(B) 4-5
(C) 2-3
(D) 1-2

Next Play(s):

Someone will have to post plays until after May 20th. I'll keep score for now if plays are posted.

NOTES:
***** Juice will be posted on the following day based on Covers.com closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total.
##### Unofficial Play
Rules of the system can be found on post #41

Disclaimer Notice: There have been questions about the results and accuracy of this system. All we have for past results can be found in post #321 (pg. 10) of this thread. There is no breakdown between unofficial and official and no accounting of the (A), (B), (C) and (D) levels. Play at your own risk. For now I'll continue to post for tracking purposes. The JM MLB system is very slow this time of year and it helps to have something else to fill this thread. If you don't want me to post this system just chime in and let me know.

[hagball52]

Here are last season's results for Allidoiswins O/U system

2013 MLB O/U System

Official plays 60-2
Unofficial plays 20-0

Official plays
+26.36 units

Unofficial plays
+20.5 units

Total units
+46.86

System is over. Final numbers are listed above.

[Wallco99]

Totals Plays 46-41 (+5.99 / +3.85 units) win pctg. 52.9%


04/29 TAM @ BOS under 9 (+108) loss

04/30 There are no plays that meet criteria

Unfortunately I had -125 on yesterdays play.

I had -120, not much better.