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  • Wallco99
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #246
    Originally posted by ok15533
    How did you calculate it to be - 17 units . How much units is that per play ?
    Because I got slightly better odds than those on Covers. Actually, using the Covers odds as system states, the Cubs loss would be exactly 18.00 units, not 17.19 as stated earlier. But it's only a couple bucks different, so it really doesn't matter.
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #247
      4/21/14
      Plays for O/U system

      SF (C) Over
      TEX (A) Under
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      • ok15533
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-14-09
        • 220

        #248
        Originally posted by Wallco99
        Because I got slightly better odds than those on Covers. Actually, using the Covers odds as system states, the Cubs loss would be exactly 18.00 units, not 17.19 as stated earlier. But it's only a couple bucks different, so it really doesn't matter.
        How many units do you play per A B C or D bets ?
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        • hagball52
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-10
          • 3053

          #249
          Originally posted by ok15533
          How many units do you play per A B C or D bets ?
          It's your typical chase bet. You bet the series to win 1 unit. If (A) bet loses you bet lost amount plus to win 1 unit, if (B) bet loses you bet both lost amounts plus to win 1 unit and so on.
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          • hagball52
            SBR MVP
            • 09-22-10
            • 3053

            #250
            Totals Plays 41-38 (+3.90 / +1.30 units)

            04/20 There are no plays for today that meet criteria .

            04/21 MIA @ ATL over 7 -105
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            • hagball52
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-10
              • 3053

              #251
              JM MLB System
              2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
              (A) 0-0

              (B) 0-0
              (C) 0-0
              (D) 0-0

              V2 plays 0-0

              V3 system 2-0

              Unofficial series
              4-0
              (A) 3-1
              (B) 1-0
              (C) 0-0
              (D) 0-0
              V2 plays 1-0

              Next Plays
              Thursday

              Upcoming plays
              04/24 Houston v
              Oakland
              05/16 NY Mets @ Washington
              05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
              05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets

              Notes: Picked up only 1 sweep yesterday with a future play. Got it listed above. Won't post again until Wednesday.

              The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.
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              • shevabets
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-16-13
                • 927

                #252
                Originally posted by hagball52
                Totals Plays 41-38 (+3.90 / +1.30 units)

                04/20 There are no plays for today that meet criteria .

                04/21 MIA @ ATL over 7 -105
                How often do *you* see the exact line they tip? Because I haven't once in 80 bets. 70-80% of the time the line is 10 cents off, or more. 20 cents isn't uncommon.
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                • Wallco99
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-01-11
                  • 7261

                  #253
                  Originally posted by shevabets
                  How often do *you* see the exact line they tip? Because I haven't once in 80 bets. 70-80% of the time the line is 10 cents off, or more. 20 cents isn't uncommon.
                  Yeah, I am yet to see those myself. If this system is designed to go 50/50, based on getting all +money bets and collecting the units above +100 on the winning bets, then there is no way we can profit getting all bets at -105 or lower. We would need a higher than 50/50 win rate just to get to the break even point. We really need to know the win percentages of this system from whatever backtest was run, and not just the +units that the creators brag about, since pretty much none of us are getting the posted odds.
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                  • hagball52
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 3053

                    #254
                    Originally posted by shevabets

                    How often do *you* see the exact line they tip? Because I haven't once in 80 bets. 70-80% of the time the line is 10 cents off, or more. 20 cents isn't uncommon.
                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                    Yeah, I am yet to see those myself. If this system is designed to go 50/50, based on getting all +money bets and collecting the units above +100 on the winning bets, then there is no way we can profit getting all bets at -105 or lower. We would need a higher than 50/50 win rate just to get to the break even point. We really need to know the win percentages of this system from whatever backtest was run, and not just the +units that the creators brag about, since pretty much none of us are getting the posted odds.
                    Yeah I agree. I haven't gotten anywhere near the odds they claim. I know on some of the plays they buy off the total by half a point to get the plus money plays but when I see some plays at +110 and I can only get -120 I really question their odds. I have written them several times about this. Sometimes I'll get the picks the evening before all of the current days games have even gone final. Like I mentioned earlier I usually take the posted line at the higher juice and hope for occasional wins or pushes to their pushes or losses. That did work out for me on Saturday but I'm not sure there will be enough of those to compensate over time. I think their backtest was done more on a win percentage and not the odds. They claim they had an average 60% win percentage over time on their backtests. Now at that rate we all would win some money. Most capping services will over inflate their performance to draw in new clients and that's probably what's going on here. I can check Pinnacle's opening lines on vegasinsider to see if they are posting actual odds. I do know that when sharp bettors jump on a number it moves rather quickly. The line on today's play opened on Pinnacle at even money at 4:19 PM yesterday and moved to -107 by 4:33 PM and right now it's at -117. I guiess for now I'll start checking Pinnacles lines and see if the odds are for real. I paid for the whole season so I'll keep playing it for now but if it looks like it's going in the wrong direction I can always pull it. At least it's just flat betting plays so there won't be any big chase losses. I wasn't sure how this whole thing would go so I set aside an individual bankroll just for this service in case it went terribly wrong so for now I suggest to tread lightly and I'll monitor the odds.
                    <br>
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                    • hagball52
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-10
                      • 3053

                      #255
                      Also I'll try and get the plays out the night before so maybe you can grab a better line.
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                      • shevabets
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-16-13
                        • 927

                        #256
                        Originally posted by hagball52
                        Also I'll try and get the plays out the night before so maybe you can grab a better line.
                        There's a bunch of us willing to jump at any system head first, including myself. Just need to have a chance to see these tips (a lot) earlier. I didn't realize they are sent to you the night before. That would explain a lot.
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                        • Icey bets
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 11-05-13
                          • 13

                          #257
                          Wallco, or anyone following the all I do is win system. What happens with the sf push from yesterday? Do we bet another C? Or did I just get the wrong line and miss out? I had o7.
                          Appreciate your help guys
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                          • hagball52
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-22-10
                            • 3053

                            #258
                            Most of the time they post the night before. Sometimes really late or very early the day of. I work until around 8 PM Pacific time. If they are in before I go to bed I'll get em up.
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                            • Wallco99
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-01-11
                              • 7261

                              #259
                              Originally posted by Icey bets
                              Wallco, or anyone following the all I do is win system. What happens with the sf push from yesterday? Do we bet another C? Or did I just get the wrong line and miss out? I had o7.
                              Appreciate your help guys
                              I posted today's plays.
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                              • Icey bets
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-05-13
                                • 13

                                #260
                                I'm an idiot... Thanks for the help
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                                • Icey bets
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 11-05-13
                                  • 13

                                  #261
                                  On a personal note, is anyone concerned about sf o10.5 ? Is this considered way above the average?
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                                  • reddevils64
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-15-13
                                    • 116

                                    #262
                                    Hi Guys,

                                    Just like to know if anyone has come across the so called "Exterminator "System" run by Tony The Sports Betting Champ, would be interested If anyone knows about it.
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                                    • hagball52
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-22-10
                                      • 3053

                                      #263
                                      Totals Plays 41-39 (+2.85 / +0.10 units)

                                      04/21 MIA @ ATL over 7 -105 loss

                                      04/22 LAA @ WAS over 8 (even)
                                      04/22 BAL @ TOR over 8.5 (even)
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                                      • Wallco99
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-01-11
                                        • 7261

                                        #264
                                        4/22/14
                                        Plays for O/U system

                                        SF (D) Over
                                        TEX (B) Under
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                                        • hagball52
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-22-10
                                          • 3053

                                          #265
                                          So if I'm not mistaken I believe Allidoiswins O/U system record stands at:

                                          (A) 10-9
                                          (B) 4-4 (with a (B) bet pending)
                                          (C) 1-3
                                          (D) 1-1 (with a (D) bet pending)

                                          Wallco if you think this is correct I'll at least take the format and keep score for now.
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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #266
                                            Originally posted by hagball52
                                            So if I'm not mistaken I believe Allidoiswins O/U system record stands at:

                                            (A) 10-9
                                            (B) 4-4 (with a (B) bet pending)
                                            (C) 1-3
                                            (D) 1-1 (with a (D) bet pending)

                                            Wallco if you think this is correct I'll at least take the format and keep score for now.
                                            That looks correct, 16-1 so far. The one loss was Cubs (-18.00 units), so system currently (-2.00 units), with two open bets.
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                                            • Wallco99
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-01-11
                                              • 7261

                                              #267
                                              Well Hagball, other than me and you, it seems no one is in here lately following the systems we are posting every day. I guess we can just stop posting and play them ourselves.
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                                              • Icey bets
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 11-05-13
                                                • 13

                                                #268
                                                I follow guys : (
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                                                • tuneman
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-06-10
                                                  • 152

                                                  #269
                                                  I am here guys! I stay quiet but been following for years! Thanks always!
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                                                  • BenGooGa
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-07-13
                                                    • 151

                                                    #270
                                                    Yes, there are ppl following. I took a hit from yesterday's 3 losses (add that to some stupid bets of my own), so taking a short break. keep up the good work guys, the official games are on the corner, looking forward for sm fun.
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                                                    • hagball52
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-22-10
                                                      • 3053

                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                      Well Hagball, other than me and you, it seems no one is in here lately following the systems we are posting every day. I guess we can just stop posting and play them ourselves.
                                                      It must be a labor of love
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                                                      • hagball52
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                        • 3053

                                                        #272
                                                        Totals Plays 43-39 (+4.85 / +2.10 units) win pctg. 52.4%

                                                        04/22 LAA @ WAS over 8 (even) win
                                                        04/22 BAL @ TOR over 8.5 (even) win

                                                        04/23 There are no plays that meet criteria

                                                        I started putting the win percentage up also. Hopefully this program will turn a profit for us and I think if we can hit around 55% or better it could be really good. Still, I preach to tread lightly until we get a little deeper into the season.
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                                                        • hagball52
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-22-10
                                                          • 3053

                                                          #273
                                                          JM MLB System
                                                          2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
                                                          (A) 0-0

                                                          (B) 0-0
                                                          (C) 0-0
                                                          (D) 0-0

                                                          V2 plays 0-0

                                                          V3 system 2-0

                                                          Unofficial series
                                                          4-0
                                                          (A) 3-1
                                                          (B) 1-0
                                                          (C) 0-0
                                                          (D) 0-0
                                                          V2 plays 1-0

                                                          Next Plays
                                                          Thursday

                                                          Upcoming plays
                                                          04/24 Houston v
                                                          Oakland
                                                          05/16 NY Mets @ Washington
                                                          05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
                                                          05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets

                                                          Notes: There are 3 possible sweeps today. Update everything tomorrow with the next system play.

                                                          The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.
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                                                          • hagball52
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-22-10
                                                            • 3053

                                                            #274
                                                            Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system 2014
                                                            Official season series record: 0-0
                                                            Unofficial season series record: 16-2

                                                            series losses (CHC 04/13 18.00 units, SFO 04/22 19.4 units) I switched to vegasinsider for closing lines.

                                                            Last Play(s) results:

                                                            04/22/14
                                                            ##### SFO over (D) Lost
                                                            ##### TEX under (B) Lost

                                                            Official Plays
                                                            (A) 0-0
                                                            (B) 0-0
                                                            (C) 0-0
                                                            (D) 0-0
                                                            Unofficial Plays
                                                            (A) 10-9
                                                            (B) 4-5
                                                            (C) 1-3 ( 1 play pending)
                                                            (D) 1-2

                                                            Next Play(s):

                                                            If Wallco will post the plays until after May 20th I'll keep score and take over a few days after I get back from my trip.


                                                            NOTES:
                                                            ***** Juice will be post on the following day based on vegasinsider closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total.
                                                            ##### Unofficial Play
                                                            Rules of the system can be found on post #41
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                                                            • hagball52
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-22-10
                                                              • 3053

                                                              #275
                                                              I went back and read the rules for the O/U system and I think allidoiswins mentioned in a later post that the official plays go through to the end of August and not July. Also if during an official play if there is a push after an (A) bet loss you still play it out as an official play and also if a series loses it starts all over again. I PMed him but got no response so if anyone can confirm it would be appreciated.
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                                                              • miss_sbets
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 09-07-13
                                                                • 223

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by tuneman
                                                                I am here guys! I stay quiet but been following for years! Thanks always!
                                                                That's a lot of betpoints I'm sure you could share with the team leaders!..
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                                                                • allidoiswin89
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-22-11
                                                                  • 915

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Hag, thanks for stepping in. Any reason you are changing to vegas insider for closing lines? Using the prices and the total could vary. Almost like comparing apples to oranges if numbers aren't the same.
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                                                                  • allidoiswin89
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-22-11
                                                                    • 915

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                    Well Hagball, other than me and you, it seems no one is in here lately following the systems we are posting every day. I guess we can just stop posting and play them ourselves.
                                                                    The reason I posted my system rules was for it to be posted...not just for a single person to benefit from it. U've said it yourself, this thread is slow at times.
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by miss_sbets
                                                                      That's a lot of betpoints I'm sure you could share with the team leaders!..
                                                                      My point exactly!!!!
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                                                                      • Wallco99
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                                        • 7261

                                                                        #280
                                                                        4/23/14
                                                                        Plays for O/U system

                                                                        SF (A) Over
                                                                        TEX (C) Under
                                                                        BOS (A) Under
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