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    Another bookie for LIVE tennis betting ?

    Could anybody recommend any other good bookie for LIVE tennis betting, please ?

    I know Pinnacle, Betfair, Matchbook (but Matchbook is "a tragedy", they only copy odds of that two previous

    mentioned, and also 10 seconds delay). Bet365 is not good: crappy odds and different rules - must be whole match

    completed, otherwise cancelled.

    Thank you.

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    I don't know what you mean about bet365 being 'not good' - they are the best bookmaker I've seen for live betting ahaha

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    What rules are you looking for?

    I'm not certain but thought just about all live betting platforms required match complete. For tennis ML bets at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning View Post
    I don't know what you mean about bet365 being 'not good' - they are the best bookmaker I've seen for live betting ahaha
    I am trying to do arbs.
    And the rules must match for both sides. But B365 is having different rules for a tennis match. It must be fully completed, otherwise voided. Other "normal" bookies are having the rule about 1st set must be completed. And B365 odds are very crappy. If other bookie is offering (for example) odds 1.5 for the same event at the same time, B365 is offerring 1.4 only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBE View Post
    Could anybody recommend any other good bookie for LIVE tennis betting, please ?

    I know Pinnacle, Betfair, Matchbook (but Matchbook is "a tragedy", they only copy odds of that two previous

    mentioned, and also 10 seconds delay). Bet365 is not good: crappy odds and different rules - must be whole match

    completed, otherwise cancelled.

    Thank you.
    bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhristov211 View Post
    bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled
    B365 had set a limit for me to some 10-20 EUR per a bet, some 7-8 years ago. So it is not usable anymore. Cash out ? I do not know this function exactly, but suppose, if a tennis match is not completed - everything will be voided, as "no action" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What rules are you looking for?

    I'm not certain but thought just about all live betting platforms required match complete. For tennis ML bets at least.
    I am doing arbs. The rules - 1st set must be completed is valid for Pinnacle, Betfair and Matchbook, too. But B365 is having the rule, the whole match must be completed. So it is not possible to do arbs between B365 and the others three bookies. And even my limits at B365 are very low...

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    Someone posted a list of 1 set action books that might be helpful here the other day: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post26113416

    Make sure that you double check their live rules are also 1 set before trusting the list though.


    1 Set Completed
    1xBet
    5Dimes
    BetBaller
    Betdaq
    Betfair
    Betfred
    BetOnline
    Betsafe
    Betsson
    Coral
    GoBetGo
    Ladbrokes
    Marathonbet
    Matchbook
    Paf
    Panbet
    Pinnacle
    Smarkets
    Unibet
    WagerWeb

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    Lightning, Optional, dhristov211, thank you very much to all of you, for your replies. Especially thanks to Optional, for the list. I'll look into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhristov211 View Post
    bet365 is must have, you cash out so it's not canceled
    Cash out is the biggest rip off in betting. It's only the mugs that use it and it's the biggest cash cow the bookmakers have had for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Someone posted a list of 1 set action books that might be helpful here the other day: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post26113416

    Make sure that you double check their live rules are also 1 set before trusting the list though.
    You might want to swerve GoBetGo.
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    I really like bookmaker for live tennis or heritage

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    Quote Originally Posted by xHOTTYTODDYx View Post
    I really like bookmaker for live tennis or heritage
    Thank you.

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    Some shops offer '1 ball served' rules for tennis. Aslong as '1 ball' has been served, all ML wagers have action. Optional, is there a list of shops that offer these '1 ball served' rules for tennis? Last book I saw them at was BetIslands.

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    Is Matchbook so bad?

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    Heritage

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    Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf

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    Quote Originally Posted by king7811 View Post
    Is Matchbook so bad?
    For LIVE betting tennis, Matchbook is only copying (scanning) odds from betfair. If the Matchbook "machine" is switched off - there is no offer available - an empty (blank) "sheet" ...And even 10 seconds delay for customers (not for Matchbook itself - they are changing odds with no delays, you can see it easy).

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    Cloudbet might be the best choice here. Not only do they offer your usual tennis bets, they also offer most of the obscure itf matches and have alot of crazy markets on tennis (race to 2 points in game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mets119218 View Post
    Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf
    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post
    Cloudbet might be the best choice here. Not only do they offer your usual tennis bets, they also offer most of the obscure itf matches and have alot of crazy markets on tennis (race to 2 points in game)

    Thank you very much.

    But I am not looking for small tournaments, but only main ATP and WTA tournaments (higher liquidity, higher stake limits, etc.).

    Trying to arb live tennis and that's why I need same rules (usually 1st set completed). And the odds must differ, not to be same at the

    moment (nothing to arb then ...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post
    Some shops offer '1 ball served' rules for tennis. Aslong as '1 ball' has been served, all ML wagers have action. Optional, is there a list of shops that offer these '1 ball served' rules for tennis? Last book I saw them at was BetIslands.
    Here's the list of 1 ball served for action books from that link I posted above;

    Match Counts as soon as Ball Served
    888sport
    Betshop
    Bwin
    Interwetten
    Meridianbet
    Novibet


    Make sure you double check them though. It's a posters personal list that he shared. (maybe shoot him a few betpoints if it is useful)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mets119218 View Post
    Cloudbet is really good they have lots of love betting for challengers and itf

    Pre match odds on Pegula vs Abanda (Quebec), small comparison only.

    Few minutes ago, the odds were " equal", so best moment to compare.

    Cloudbet 1.93 against 1.93,

    while Pinnacle 1.952 vs 1.952. Is still Pinnacle unbeatable ?

    No other bookies offering, at least 1.96 / 1.96 ?

    I saw some exchange, Fairlay, but found only few info about them. they are taking 2 % of net winnings (Matchbook is taking 1 %, but both win and loss).

    It seems, Fairlay are (probably) doing the same thing (as matchbook.com does) - copying odds (for tennis) from Pinnacle, increasing it a little bit. Yes, I know, you will not agree with me (saying, customers are playing against customers, only - no, sorry, I am 17 years in this "business" , so I exactly know, which odds come from a bettor, and which are only copied from a bookie...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBE View Post
    For LIVE betting tennis, Matchbook is only copying (scanning) odds from betfair. If the Matchbook "machine" is switched off - there is no offer available - an empty (blank) "sheet" ...And even 10 seconds delay for customers (not for Matchbook itself - they are changing odds with no delays, you can see it easy).
    Ok, thanks Luckily I chose Betfair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by king7811 View Post
    Ok, thanks Luckily I chose Betfair!

    Ok, but it does not mean, you cannot play there (at Matchbook). Sometimes , their "machine" is set a little higher than the market is moving at Betfair.

    For example (best to compare, when players are sitting), BF can have 1.4 odds and Matchook is having 1.41 (and only 1 % commission, but both cases, win or loss).

    Btw., just now, it is 17:42 (the Brexit time), their website is down (first planned maintenance, then appeared: unplanned outage). It is lasting some 10 minutes now. Hopefully they will be back in few minutes ...

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    <header style="box-sizing: border-box; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Unplanned Outage

    </header><article style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Matchbook is currently experiencing an unplanned outage. Our engineers are working hard to resolve the issue and we hope to have the site available again as soon as possible.
    If you have any queries please contact our Customer Support team by e-mail (accounts@matchbook.com) or phone (UK - +44 203 627 0646 or Ireland +353 21 601 9473).
    </article>

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBE View Post
    <header style="box-sizing: border-box; text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Unplanned Outage</header><article style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;helvetica neue&quot;, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Matchbook is currently experiencing an unplanned outage. Our engineers are working hard to resolve the issue and we hope to have the site available again as soon as possible.If you have any queries please contact our Customer Support team by e-mail (accounts@matchbook.com) or phone (UK - +44 203 627 0646 or Ireland +353 21 601 9473).</article>
    It seems, they are (after almost 1.5 hour) back.

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