1. 04-30-16 03:55 PM #36
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    I agree with the comment about the HOF being a joke. I would have more respect for it if the players themselves voted. The sportswriters have too many axes to grind and probably won't vote for a guy if he was a jerk to interview or beat the hometown team.

    Baseball Writers Association has one tenth of the expertise and recognition that the players or managers have.
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  2. 04-30-16 03:56 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    I didn't ask if Ortiz should get in, I asked will he get in

    The voters would have to apply a double standard to get Ortiz in while they leave out players with better numbers because of PED use.
    I think he will get in - more of a positive attitude about him in the media.
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  3. 04-30-16 04:20 PM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    like i said man, peds saved baseball. i just find it funny some people get thrown under the bus and some don't. that's all i'm saying.
    Yea thats not fair, agreed.
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  4. 04-30-16 05:57 PM #39
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    timing is everything

    the currenrt perception is that the league is clean

    it's too late to make him piss now he's on the victory lap on a team going nowhere (see Kobe)

    zero fox given

    he's in
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  5. 04-30-16 06:09 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    no way first ballot, he doesn't even compare favorably with
    Manny Ramirez.
    Well sure but Manny was one of the 25-30 best hitters but just about any measure
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  6. 04-30-16 07:16 PM #41
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    Steroids will always follow these star athletes. It's unfortunate... but it's the truth.

    Papi didn't need them... but he took them.

    I can't remember if David Ortiz was on the first rough draft of possible steroid users? But I believe he was.

    All I know is... I remember going to a Tigers game in 1989 and seeing Jose Canseco up close.... guy was on roids back then. I'm a firm believer that Canseco introduced McGwire to roids... well before being a St. Louis Cardinal.
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  7. 04-30-16 08:23 PM #42
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    He should never be allowed in. He was a fukkin juicer.
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  8. 04-30-16 08:56 PM #43
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    kids a goof
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  9. 04-30-16 09:22 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUHerd37 View Post
    He should never be allowed in. He was a fukkin juicer.
    Herder you would never say that shit to his face mang you better call first

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  10. 04-30-16 09:36 PM #45
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    Not sure why he seems to get a pass when it comes to steroids but he was on the original list

    He should be in the HOF but so should Bonds and Arod for sure
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  11. 04-30-16 11:50 PM #46
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    Davy PED Ortiz...HOF
    Let me laff...
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  12. 05-01-16 07:42 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    Herder you would never say that shit to his face mang you better call first

    Roid rage is scary stuff.
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  13. 05-02-16 04:57 AM #48
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    When Bonds, Clemens, etc get in, Big Papi will also. However, I do think his 1st ballot percentage as a juicer will be around 50% (which is sky high). Should make it in time,
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  14. 05-02-16 10:23 AM #49
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    NONE of this matters. I love Ortiz and he is a great hitter, and great diplomat for MLB. BUT NO DH has ever been elected. So conversation is moot.
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