1. 03-11-16 09:15 PM #1
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    Imo it's LBJ or james buchanan,

    In modern times we have to say W.
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  2. 03-11-16 09:16 PM #2
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    Do we really need another political thread? You can go to one of the 50 already and comment there
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  3. 03-11-16 09:25 PM #3
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    Obama, Carter, and then Hoover.
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  4. 03-11-16 09:29 PM #4
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    Chester Arthur has to be up there with the worst.
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  5. 03-11-16 09:31 PM #5
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    LBJ?

    He was a great president other than Vietnam.
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  6. 03-11-16 09:43 PM #6
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    fucckkking ulysse s grant.look it up
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  7. 03-11-16 09:44 PM #7
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    Jimmy Carter and Obama

    Real close
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  8. 03-11-16 09:58 PM #8
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    James Buchanan.
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  9. 03-11-16 10:07 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn View Post
    LBJ?

    He was a great president other than Vietnam.
    lol
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  10. 03-11-16 10:17 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooks85 View Post
    lol
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  11. 03-11-16 10:17 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Do we really need another political thread? You can go to one of the 50 already and comment there
    Politics seem more interesting than sports right now.
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  12. 03-11-16 10:21 PM #12
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    Obama divided a nation.
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  13. 03-11-16 10:33 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Obama divided a nation.
    Yeah because during Dubuya's reign we were all a unified nation singing kumbaya together.
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  14. 03-11-16 10:36 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Yeah because during Dubuya's reign we were all a unified nation singing kumbaya together.
    Yeah, but never during his terms(or any other president's before that) did I ever look at a black person in the same room and wonder if they were mad at me.
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  15. 03-11-16 10:38 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Yeah, but never during his terms(or any time before that) did I ever look at a black person in the same room and wonder if they were mad at me.
    WOW...

    I hear there's a thread in the saloon that your mate pronk plays in. Why don't you go join him?
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  16. 03-11-16 10:40 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    WOW...

    I hear there's a thread in the saloon that your mate pronk plays in. Why don't you go join him?
    What? I am being dead serious. Look at the race relations in the last 8 years and tell me they haven't gotten worse. if you say that it hasn't, you have your head buried in the sand.
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  17. 03-11-16 10:42 PM #17
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    1. Carter
    2. Dubya
    3. Obama
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  19. 03-11-16 10:48 PM #19
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    Obama took affordable cars off of the road and destroyed them. These were cars that lower income families could have used to get to and from work.

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  20. 03-11-16 11:03 PM #20
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    in my life time its ..LBJ , baby bush , give away carter , then obama . but in all time . its ole ABRAHAM LINCOLN hands down he killed more people than all the wars we ever had put togther times 10 , he was a no good SOB thats a fact
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  21. 03-12-16 01:14 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweethook View Post
    in my life time its ..LBJ , baby bush , give away carter , then obama . but in all time . its ole ABRAHAM LINCOLN hands down he killed more people than all the wars we ever had put togther times 10 , he was a no good SOB thats a fact
    Theres always one

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  22. 03-12-16 01:25 AM #22
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  23. 03-12-16 01:30 AM #23
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    are you guys penetrating kidding me? In most of our lifetimes its George W Bush and its not even close. Terrorist attacks that completed changed our privacy rights, flip the economy into shit by having two wars. Push agendas that were better for his friends and family and not for the country. And not to mention he was an absolute moron in public situations.
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  24. 03-12-16 01:49 AM #24
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    Hillary
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  25. 03-12-16 01:53 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    And not to mention he was an absolute moron in public situations.
    He was always a moron in every situation.

    Except this one. Obama would have at least got hit with one of those.

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  26. 03-12-16 02:07 AM #26
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  27. 03-12-16 02:26 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    and it isn't even remotely close
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  28. 03-12-16 02:38 AM #28
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    Dubya with a mile to second.

    Reagan and Bush Snr were the only other ones even worth calling 'bad' in my lifetime recollection.

    Not sure why the hate for Carter. Think America was prosperous, had the moral highground and not at war under him.
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  29. 03-12-16 02:46 AM #29
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    Opti going against Reagan, who the Republicans consider a modern day Christ.

    Bold, brotha. Bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    Opti going against Reagan, who the Republicans consider a modern day Christ.

    Bold, brotha. Bold.
    My perspective is more about how the world fared under them. But honestly, it looked like America went to shit economically under him and Bush Snr too. So I still have trouble relating to the domestic fondness for his legacy even to this day.

    From here it felt like he ramped up the cold war to an explosive level. Pumped billions into grants for mates stuff like Star Wars. Forced us all to spend 2 or 3 years as slaves to Nancy's clairvoyants whims. He was viewed as a dangerous joke in his 2nd term by a lot of people down here in Oz.
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  31. 03-12-16 03:04 PM #31
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    so according to this thread every president since LBJ has votes to be the worst ever..............

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  32. 03-12-16 04:13 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Yeah, but never during his terms(or any other president's before that) did I ever look at a black person in the same room and wonder if they were mad at me.
    LMFAO. Blacks have had issues for all of American history...and your just NOW getting worried about them being upset?

    Black people probably noticing you getting all weird and nervous around them and thinking...

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  34. 03-12-16 06:17 PM #34
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    I can't believe nobody has mentioned Woodrow Wilson yet. He's the reason America is trillions of dollars in debt and why the U.S. government steals your money in the form of taxes. He's responsible for overseeing the secretive establishment of The Federal Reserve and the passage of the income tax law. There are books and documentaries out on the topics for those who are uneducated and have no fuucking clue what I'm talking about.

    Harry S. Truman should also be mentioned if for no other reason than he used the nukes on Japan. Imagine if Trump got elected and decided to nuke Syria or Iran or something, how up in arms everyone would be, calling him a tyrant and an overzealous dictatorial baby killer. Well that's all speculation but Truman actually authorized using multiple nukes on Japan. That's one of the worst human rights violations in the history of mankind.

    W. Bush and Obama don't get a free pass either. They're both idiots who are on my list of 10 worst presidents ever. This country has either declined or remained at best stagnant the entire time those two were in office. Nothing has improved under either of them. The economy is still trashed and there is massive unemployment and debt. We're still getting attacked by terrorists and illegal aliens. There are perpetual wars, veterans aren't getting their benefits when they return and they're getting substandard care at VA hospitals. Our infrastructure is in shambles. We still use Amtrak meanwhile in progressive countries like in Europe and Asia, they have bullet trains. This shit is a joke. We could flip the calendar back a decade instead of the clocks back an hour tonight and nobody would notice that we went back cause there hasn't been any significant progress since then.
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  35. 03-12-16 10:58 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by habitualwinning View Post
    W. Bush and Obama don't get a free pass either. They're both idiots who are on my list of 10 worst presidents ever. This country has either declined or remained at best stagnant the entire time those two were in office. Nothing has improved under either of them. The economy is still trashed and there is massive unemployment and debt. We're still getting attacked by terrorists and illegal aliens. There are perpetual wars, veterans aren't getting their benefits when they return and they're getting substandard care at VA hospitals. Our infrastructure is in shambles. We still use Amtrak meanwhile in progressive countries like in Europe and Asia, they have bullet trains. This shit is a joke. We could flip the calendar back a decade instead of the clocks back an hour tonight and nobody would notice that we went back cause there hasn't been any significant progress since then.
    very well said
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