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So I was in one of our local betting shops today...
because I was early in the city for a meeting and had some time to kill.
Was the first time in years, that I've been in one - damn.... Totally forgot how fukked up 100% of the people in there are....
Sure, on one hand I am glad that we at least have the possibility here in Germany. But on the other hand: exactly the reason why betting still has a bad reputation. People in there are unreal...
Don't worry, they too forgot how "fukked up" you are. Just make you bet and get out of there, so they don't see you for another several years
Originally Posted by Antibet
Nothing special happened. It's just kind of sad to see the guys in there. 90% Turks/Kurds/Arabs, betting their HARTZ4 money on big fat parlays, hoping to hit it big. Hearing German language in there has the odds of hitting the jackpot I guess. More than half of the people in there looking poor as fukk (because they are), the other half is betting their drugdealer money on any 1st half over they can get. The shop is basically in the middle of the city, and you always see the same faces hanging around in front of it. So yeah, it is no wonder, that betting has a very bad reputation among "normal" people. I am absolutely sure, that none of those guys has an online account with actually decent odds. There is absolutely ZERO percent chance, that any of them is winning any money long-term; this was a Tipico store, so you not only have pretty bad odds, you are paying 5% taxes on your risk amount as well. So definitely not beatable for any of them. I feel bad for them on one hand, then on the other hand, I'd like to punch each of them in the face for sitting there all day every day, all year long, not working at all, wasting my taxes like that.
Yeah, see that sort of scene every day at work(work for a leading uk bookie)
Try and convince punters to go online together good value but not interested , shops in London filled with Eastern Europeans not understanding much English
William Hill, Ladbrokes?
Well, good for you of course that you have those people
Again, I am very glad that we have the opportunity to go in shops, in every city around, unlike the guys from the land of the free. But man oh man.... Wouldn't even call these guys punters. Dart throwers, sitting on their ass and wasting my tax payer money. We are talking about refugees, fleeing from war - get those guys out first, who are here since 10-30 years and never worked a single day in their life and never made the slightest effort to speak the language.
weird even in Vegas all banged up people
Many will not use betting apps
Sounds like a typical NYC OTB.
The other high street bookie begins with a CWilliam Hill, Ladbrokes?
Well, good for you of course that you have those people
Again, I am very glad that we have the opportunity to go in shops, in every city around, unlike the guys from the land of the free. But man oh man.... Wouldn't even call these guys punters. Dart throwers, sitting on their ass and wasting my tax payer money. We are talking about refugees, fleeing from war - get those guys out first, who are here since 10-30 years and never worked a single day in their life and never made the slightest effort to speak the language.
😜 suppose we should be thankful we don't have many betting restrictions
My biggest fear with legalized betting in the US is that the books get taxed and then pass that tax on to the player in higher vig.
Many groups could still outplay the market place but some of us would likely trade our money elsewhere.
True about the apps but give it time.
There will always locals and credit offshore
It's where all big money is
Yeah, EU just know AGAIN told Germany that what they are doing is not legal
KVB, I once explained the situation in Germany here on the forum, let me copy and paste this (ignore typos etc., was written in a hurry back then):
My biggest fear with legalized betting in the US is that the books get taxed and then pass that tax on to the player in higher vig.
Many groups could still outplay the market place but some of us would likely trade our money elsewhere.
True about the apps but give it time.
So, let me tell you guys a story of some people who are reigning a country and are the dumbest fcks without any clue:
Back in 2007 Germany decided to have a new "Staatsvertrag zum Glücksspielwesen in Deutschland (short: Glücksspielstaatsvertrag or GlüStV)" (State Treaty for Gambling in Germany). To cut it short: Everything is illegal, except LOTTO (runned by the state) and ODDSET (football betting, a state organisation too, with a payout between 55 and 60%. Pinnacle f.e. has 98%.) The state here says they only have a state monopoly for gambling, because they want to prevent their citizens from gambling addiction. Well yeah, of course.... That's why Lotto is allowed where the odds of hitting 6 numbers are 1 to 140.000.000. And that must be the reason why the payout from Oddset is 55%. It's a disgrace. Real reason for this treaty was: Germany is making a DAMN SHITLOAD of money with gambling!! And they were fcking afraid, that their amount of money would sink because other offers are WAY more fair!!
But what happened? The EU was unhappy with this. And some states of Germany decided that they were unhappy, too. Schleswig-Holstein made their own treaty: They sold licenses to providers like Bet365 and allowed them to operate on the market.
So in 2011 there was decided to change the treaty: Now 20 providers (don't as me why 20 and not all, another idiotic move) were allowed to request a licence for Germany. But to sell licences wasn't enough. Because the provider of the state ODDSET, is such a laughable book, they were no longer profitable since 2010. And we all know the state wants its peace of cake. What happened? They decided a great idea: You have to pay 5% taxes on the amount of your initial bet. The bookie has to take these 5% and give it directly to the state. That means this: Let's take bet365 for example: Let's say I want to bet 100€ @1.80 odds. That means that I am only betting 95€ @1.80 odds, or to make it more clear, if I am winning, I am not winning 80€, but only 71€. That means you don't have actual odds @1.80, the actual odds shrink to 1.71 in this specific example. Funny hm?
But it get's even fcking funnier: Imagine what happens with a dnb or a pk? Yes, right. It isn't a dnb any more. Because 1000€ on a dnb doesn't mean you get 1000€ back in case of a draw. No, it means that you are getting only 950€ back. And the state sacks in 50€. Isn't that great? Oh yeah it is...
A few fun facts: Online gambling is illegal. But as long as the state get's his peace, it's cool. 5% taxes on your initial bet means that your ROI sinks ~5 and 6%. If you were a successfull punter with 5% yield, you are now a loser. In my case it means that I don't have a longterm yield around 25% anymore, but around 19-20%.
If this wasn't funny enough, I can tell another joke:
188bet didn't want to give 5% to the state. So what did they do? No more german customers allowed. They kicked us with a nice "Thx and bye".
Today SBObet did the same. No more german customers allowed. Bye and thank you, withdraw your money.
Betfair CAN'T take 5% on it's exchange markets! So what did they do? No more exchange markets for german customers, sorry. Fixed odds yes, but with 5% of course.
And I would bet 10.000 bucks, that it is only a matter of time until Pinnacle says: "Sorry, you are not allowed here anymore, thx and bye."
It is a massive catastrophy for me. 188bet, gone. SBObet, gone. Pinnacle, definitely soon gone. I have ZERO chance to find value any more and put a serious amount of money on it.
(What I don't get though is: Why does a damn big asian book care about a fcking law in goddamn fcking Germany?? Why don't these idiots just say: Fck you Mrs. Merkel, we don't care Seriously, I don't understand it. What do they expect? Merkel coming to get them in Makati City with a parachute and a G36 in her hand?
And let me make this very clear here:
I myself, would definitely say I would be willing to pay taxes for THE WINNINGS I make! If I had to pay 5% for the WINNINGS ONLY, that would have been totally ok.
But 5% on EVERY BET????? So I'm paying for losers, for winners, even for pushes. And that's impossible.
Another side of the medal is: Government tells it wants to protect players. THESE FCKING MONKEYS ARE DOING THE DAMN OPPOSITE OF IT!?!?!?!?!?! ARE THEY KIDDING?!?!?!?! They are bancrupting all losing players even more than before. And they are forcing successfull bettors like me into criminality by trying to find agents who open accounts for them etc. etc. etc.
German government made a decision here, that is against any moral or any law. It is absolutely incredible how they can be allowed to do this.
The EU isn't okay with this treaty and are investigating it. But let me be blankenly honest here: Germany is the fcking biggest payer for the EU BY FAR. So why would the EU piss them off?? They are not going to do it. If they would they could. Because EU law is bigger than state law, and decisions from the EU are not up for negotiation and every state has to follow them. But I would bet my a.s.s that there will be nothing done.
This law was decided from people who know NOTHING about the simplest facts in the business. They have NO IDEA about how punting works. NO member of the comission who decided it would even be able to tell you what the term VALUE in punting means. But they made a decision about it. It is so absofckinglutely crazy, honestly I simply can't get it into my head. These guys are so stupid it is beyond imagination.
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Just imagine if places like that were legal here you would see characters like this
Who is that? Djihadi John?Just imagine if places like that were legal here you would see characters like this
LOL no. Just poster seaweed.
sounds like the people that I see at the casinos here in Vegas playing the slot machines.
I know manJust kidding
But hey, maybe that is the reason for the mask
I bet it does.
But I'd guess most in Vegas are tourists anyway, or not? Meaning they'll blow their money and are done. Not sitting there all year long and never working.
Most people that gamble are shabby period
Wall Streeters sharp looking
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Seaweed and jjgold is the same penguin paid by SBR. Just put a sky mask on jjgold, and you won't see the difference.
no...at the local casinos around where I live, I see the same people almost every time that I go. It's pretty sad to see the exact same faces dropping their money hoping for that "big hit".
Cool story, bro
Would read again
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Banged up
This story sounds way too eurotrashy-gay for us proud Americans. Please make necessary adjustments and repost
Nah, you are Russian, meaning either Asian or European. Pass
Great story.
Vegas same story. Was at Aria and some banged up black dude running around, blocking everyone's view, yelling at the tv's. Zero chance he had more than $100 on any game. Westgate is the worst. Same banged up fukks betting $10 parlays and sitting there all day long. I call them sports book loud mouths. They run around and yell the most, have the least on the games. It's thoroughly annoying to watch games with amateur gamblers. Rookie hour.
I lay my bet and hit the pool and booze... wash, rinse , repeat..
Best way to do it
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