[Optional]

I guess. It's still adding an extra question though.

Thought of another reason that I liked the 2nd tie breaker originally... it encourages people to post picks early, which in turn encourages more people to play when they see others in. (not sure that matters as much now we are rolling though)


Would it make a difference if I posted the matchups earlier in the week? So there isn't a race Friday afternoon to be among the first to post picks? Most people will wait until after first practice to pick if I do that, so anyone that wants to grab an early spot should be able to do it a lot easier.

[yisman]

Not my first choice, but if people don't agree with me I'd rather it be posted earlier.

Just for my schedule, what happens is that Friday afternoon is really busy and I'm not online Friday night. So if you post it at like midnight Friday night, I won't be able to pick for a while and all the decent picks will be off the board.

[Optional]

I'll stick up the Michigan thread in the next hour or so, and post all the matchups at the same time and see how people approach that this week.

I do like waiting until after first practice, to pick out the really interesting ones, but maybe that's me being a bit too precious about it. Nobody else likely cares if they are interesting or not anyway. LOL

[onlooker]

Not my first choice, but if people don't agree with me I'd rather it be posted earlier.

Just for my schedule, what happens is that Friday afternoon is really busy and I'm not online Friday night. So if you post it at like midnight Friday night, I won't be able to pick for a while and all the decent picks will be off the board.

Opti usually tries to get the match ups on Friday before 5:30pm . Is that still to late?

I'll stick up the Michigan thread in the next hour or so, and post all the matchups at the same time and see how people approach that this week.

I do like waiting until after first practice, to pick out the really interesting ones, but maybe that's me being a bit too precious about it. Nobody else likely cares if they are interesting or not anyway. LOL

Ah. Now I see why the match ups are up on Tuesday. I hope with them being up before any practices, don't make them to easy. I will still find away to fuk it up.

[BET THE HOOK]

I like the idea of a second tie breaker myself.

[yisman]

onlooker if it was always by 5:30 it would be ok but it's usually been later.

[Optional]

Yisman's right. I've been unreliable with it. Tend to have a few beers whilst watching and sometimes fall asleep. Or have to run off somewhere at or near the end and don't get back for hours to post it.

[rickie65]

personally, I wouldn't change thing. I feel for you Yis on the timing but whatever day/time picks are posted may be "unfair" to someone else. And if the matchups are posted early and the practices/qualifying all end up as obvious choices we'll end up with more posters wanting to make all the same picks.

[yisman]

personally, I wouldn't change thing. I feel for you Yis on the timing but whatever day/time picks are posted may be "unfair" to someone else.

I didn't ask for that to be changed. I just asked for additional tiebreakers so that everyone has a chance, even if you wind up posting after 5-8 people have already picked.

Obviously I'm not asking for Opti to cater exclusively to my schedule. The only reason it's an issue is because with the current setup, I want to be one of the first three to pick. If I had my druthers, it would be a different setup and then the time Opti posted the matchups wouldn't matter one whit.

[Optional]

if the matchups are posted early and the practices/qualifying all end up as obvious choices we'll end up with more posters wanting to make all the same picks.

That's a good point.


Has anyone got an idea for a different second tiebreaker that does not require adding an extra question to answer?

Or a good, simple, additional question that could be a second tiebreaker and make the game more interesting?

I don't want to make it so hard that non-nascar fans feel like they don't have a chance basically.

[rickie65]

Or a good, simple, additional question that could be a second tiebreaker and make the game more interesting?

1. combined finish positions of the 3 JGR cars
2. what lap # for first caution
3. how many laps will Nemechek actually complete

[yisman]

who will finish last? (iow, which start and park jagoff stops soonest)
how many cars will finish the race?
which auto company will have the most cars in the top 10?

[Optional]

It looks like the issue Rickie mentioned has come up this week. There is a couple of bad mismatches that everyone has chosen the same way.

Will go back to Friday posting and think of something for 2nd tiebreaker. None of the suggestions so far will give us a probable single winner. Maybe estimating the margin of victory... or having everybody select 1st,2nd,3rd instead of just winner.

I'll still leave the second tie breaker in probably... but make it a third tie breaker that will likely never need to be used.

Anyway, will do something for next week. Keep suggestions rolling if you have one.

[yisman]

I think that was my idea. rickie just seconded it by not understanding what I said.

The whole reason I posted in the first place was because since some picks will be obvious, it makes it very difficult if you aren't one of the first 5 or so to pick.

Changing the time would just help me be one of the first few to pick, but the later people get screwed anyway, no matter when you post the matchups.

Basically, you need a way for people to differentiate their picks. The two easiest ways would be either adding more matchups or more tiebreakers.

[Optional]

Michigan Results

17 players = 34 points added to prize pool. Now 766 points.

Rickie asserts his authority with the weekly win which takes him back to clear leader.

Yisman continues his rise toward the lead... despite death riding his own chances all year (as does Luvtogamble)

And Dew snags his 3rd race winner pick for the year to move into contention for that prize.


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Bristol Results

18 players = 36 points added to prize pool. Now 806 points.

Average score was one of the lower races of the season. No one picked Brad Keselowski for the win, but reliable Rickie scores a 3 to extend his lead again.

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Atlanta Results

16 players = 32 points added to prize pool. Now 834 points.

BadNina bags a 5 for her(?) first weekly win of the year. LeadFootFred and I stumble to let StanleySharp jump us into a clear 3rd. And all steady at the top.

CarolinaDaze, Onenonlymush and DDT look like our only current regular players still looking for their first win now. C'mon guys... lets do this thing!

Interesting stat: Luvtogamble and Yisman have scored exactly the same for the last 7 races in a row. Sus anyone think

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Richmond Results

17 players = 34 points added to prize pool. Now 868 points.

BTH, Fred and Stanley all claw back Rickies lead by 1 point this week.

OnenOnlyMush answered the call with a win. Now for you, CD and DDT!

No one picked Harvick for the win this week. 3rd race in a row we have all missed. Time to pick that up too for the chase. :\

Biggest movers over the last 3 races have been CD and Onlooker.


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Is anyone interested in a separate Chase Pool? We all start on zero. Say 20 points each? If 10 people play that will 200 points for the winner?


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[CarolinaDaze]

Count me in for chase pool.

[blueghost]

ill get in

[yisman]

ok chase pool

[BET THE HOOK]

I'm in too.

[rickie65]

I"m in.

chase pool using same picks as weekly pool or different set of picks?

[Optional]

I"m in.

chase pool using same picks as weekly pool or different set of picks?

Same set of picks.

That's 7 so far, so it sounds like a goer.


I'll post the chase leaderboard in this thread after the Chicagoland race and anyone who wants to go in can add their 20 points to that post before the 2nd race.

[Optional]

Chicagoland Results


Season Long Pool

18 players = 36 points added to prize pool. Now 904 points.

And the fight for the prizes heats up again with the top 5 all within 5 points now. Whilst CarolinaDaze and Onlooker continue their grinding run of the last few weeks moving closer and closer to contention each week.

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Chase Pool

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If you wish to be included in the Chase Pool please REPLY TO CONFIRM PARTICIPATION (if you haven't already) and add 20 points to this post.

No rush for non-pros to add your 20 points, as long as it is added before the last race. but if you say you are playing please make sure you pay the full 20 points even if you bomb out early.

[leadfootfred]

Confirming participation and points sent

[Jay Price]

In.

[onlooker]

In for Chase Pool. Points transferred.

[CarolinaDaze]

In it 2 win it.

[soxwin1917]

Confirming I'm in.

[StanleySharp]

I'm in Opti

[BET THE HOOK]

What a finish this week

[rickie65]

in!!

[blueghost]

in chase pool at 2 a day ..pay.. will keep track/ thx

[Optional]

Loudon Results


Regular Season Pool

19 players = 38 points added to prize pool. Now 942 points.

Rickie continues his recent mediocre form again this week with another 2, but once again most of he chasing pack fail to capitalize.

Only Yisman and myself scored above 2 amongst the top 10 pack.

Once again we hit a 5 race streak with no one picking the winner. Lets not set a new record next week.

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Chase Pool

And we are underway! 10 players = 200 points to the winner.

Good luck everyone.

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