1. 06-21-14 10:56 PM #1
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    UFC 175: Weidman vs. Machida (July 05, 2014)



    Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET
    Chris Weidman vs. Lyoto Machida
    Ronda Rousey vs. Alexis Davis
    Matt Mitrione vs. Stefan Struve
    Uriah Hall vs. Thiago "Marreta" Santos
    Marcus Brimage vs. Russell Doane

    FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
    Alex Caceres vs. Urijah Faber
    Ildemar Alcantara vs. Kenny Robertson
    Chris Camozzi vs. Bruno Santos
    Rob Font vs. George Roop

    UFC Fight Pass, 7 p.m. ET
    Kevin Casey vs. William "Bubba" Bush
    Guilherme Vasconcelos vs. Luke Zachrich



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  2. 06-22-14 03:01 AM #2
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    I like Bruce Leroy, but I'm going with Liz Carmouche in this one.

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  3. 06-22-14 04:44 AM #3
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    Even though I'm a huge Struve fan, I'm surprised he opened as a favorite after such a long layoff
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  4. 06-22-14 05:23 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lick496 View Post
    Even though I'm a huge Struve fan, I'm surprised he opened as a favorite after such a long layoff
    Yeah... what's the deal with that... I thought his career was over because of a heart condition or something?
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  5. 06-22-14 08:12 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lick496 View Post
    Even though I'm a huge Struve fan, I'm surprised he opened as a favorite after such a long layoff
    its probably because he can easily submit mittrione, and he is also a better striker, if it wasnt for the long layoff/heart illness thing i would be all over struve
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  6. 06-22-14 10:54 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lick496 View Post
    Even though I'm a huge Struve fan, I'm surprised he opened as a favorite after such a long layoff
    yeah but who wouldnt jump all over struve at + $$$ vs mitrione regardless of layoff?
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  7. 06-22-14 11:48 AM #7
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    I'm all over Struve regardless. He's got skills.. Mitrione is "athletic".
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  8. 06-22-14 11:50 AM #8
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    Faber at whatever odds. He isn't going to lose to Caceres.

    Santos over Hall, no reason to ever bet Hall at those odds when he's scared to hurt his opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    I like Bruce Leroy, but I'm going with Liz Carmouche in this one.

    This fight is going to come down to who has the better hair.
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  10. 06-23-14 12:30 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Blingshyne View Post
    yeah but who wouldnt jump all over struve at + $$$ vs mitrione regardless of layoff?
    Problem is, I'm not seeing him at +money.
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    Lol
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  12. 06-23-14 04:21 PM #12
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    all in Machida
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  13. 06-23-14 05:27 PM #13
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    ya its not necessarily the layoff im worried about, its that im pretty sure Struve couldnt train or excercise in any way for a long time
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  14. 06-23-14 07:04 PM #14
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    i couldn't give two shits about any of these fights but the Weidman fight. These cards are getting more watered down each and every time I wonder who is gonna be on the Gus Jones card? A bunch of shit fights where if Jones or Gus get hurt the card flops
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  15. 06-23-14 07:35 PM #15
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    Hall/Santos and Brimage/Doane on the main card is a JOKE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    i couldn't give two shits about any of these fights but the Weidman fight. These cards are getting more watered down each and every time I wonder who is gonna be on the Gus Jones card? A bunch of shit fights where if Jones or Gus get hurt the card flops
    Outside of the main events, the PPVs now are no better (and, in many cases, worse) than the Fox Sports 1 cards. The non-champion top-10 talent is being used to carry the free shows, leaving the PPVs with lackluster undercards.
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  17. 06-26-14 06:25 AM #17
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    i like struve and machida. might throw faber into some sort of parlay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Hall/Santos and Brimage/Doane on the main card is a JOKE.
    UFC is a joke, they wont crack 500,000 ppv buys this year.
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  19. 06-26-14 08:29 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Hall/Santos and Brimage/Doane on the main card is a JOKE.
    Esp over faber vs bruce leeroy. in what reality does that make sense? the UFC must be smoking that strong weed.
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  20. 06-26-14 01:47 PM #20
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    Machida can be tricky for anyone in the UFC if you let him play his game and chase him. I think Weidman has what it takes to take him out of his game.

    Give me Wediman.

    I like Bruce Leroy but not sure what they are doing here. Faber doesn't lose this fight.
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  21. 06-26-14 03:53 PM #21
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    Faber too strong for Leroy, but Machida has what it takes to taste gold again from Chris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unwritten Law View Post
    Faber too strong for Leroy, but Machida has what it takes to taste gold again from Chris.
    Has what it takes perhaps. But he will jave to play keep away for 5 rounds and get the nod. Unless Machida wants to sneak attack this shit, I expect him to play ultra keep away from a guy like Weidman.

    Chris should be able to get TDs. Chris should be way stronger. Chris should be confident. The question maybe, is can Machida wear him out for a couple rounds without getting hurt? Machida can go 5. We still dont know if Chris can.
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  23. 06-26-14 05:02 PM #23
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    So, I like Machida quite a bit, but I'm not sure you guys are giving Weidman the respect he deserves. The dude really is that good and I don't see him losing the belt for some time. Machida is a great striker/tactician, but certainly no more so than Silva and we all saw how that worked out. Additionally, his super evasive/counter punching fighting style doesn't lend itself to a likely decision victory and is something best utilized against weak-minded fighters, which Weidman certainly isn't. Additionally, as much as I respect Weidman's skills and fight instincts, what really impresses me most about him is his strategic understanding of the fight. Dude's no brawler and Machida, bless his urine-drinking heart, won't have what it takes to get the job done. Anything under -500 for Weidman is a beautiful thing.
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  24. 06-26-14 05:38 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lick496 View Post
    ya its not necessarily the layoff im worried about, its that im pretty sure Struve couldnt train or excercise in any way for a long time
    From what I've heard he was training through most of the layoff.
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  25. 06-26-14 06:01 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skel View Post
    From what I've heard he was training through most of the layoff.

    really? im basically just going off of a post i saw from him that said "excited to get back to training finally" or something along the lines of that. It was a while ago though and i may have misunderstood it. Struve is still my boy though, im just a little nervous on this one
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  26. 06-29-14 12:43 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Das Jax View Post
    So, I like Machida quite a bit, but I'm not sure you guys are giving Weidman the respect he deserves. The dude really is that good and I don't see him losing the belt for some time. Machida is a great striker/tactician, but certainly no more so than Silva and we all saw how that worked out. Additionally, his super evasive/counter punching fighting style doesn't lend itself to a likely decision victory and is something best utilized against weak-minded fighters, which Weidman certainly isn't. Additionally, as much as I respect Weidman's skills and fight instincts, what really impresses me most about him is his strategic understanding of the fight. Dude's no brawler and Machida, bless his urine-drinking heart, won't have what it takes to get the job done. Anything under -500 for Weidman is a beautiful thing.
    This is gonna be my write up on this fight so far -

    Machida is awkward and you just never know how a fighter is gonna react to his style.. Weidman included.. Weidman might get my nod just because of his wrestling and grappling advantage, length and reach also perhaps..

    Gotta consider though that Machida is 2-0 at this 185 pound weight class and has a remotely similar peek a boo stand up fight style as Anderson Silva, in addition to that he is VERY hard to take down. Rashad Evans can tell you that...

    Moving on - Before the KO of Anderson Silva he was getting the better of Weidman standing.. Hmmm?.. Machida is 36 years old now which is probably not a good thing in this sport compared to Weidman 30.....

    I'm gonna ponder on this fight all week leading up as far as a betting stand point is concerned.....

    Decent write up on the fight from a gambling source point of view - http://www.lootmeister.com/mma/ufc-175-predictions.php
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  27. 06-29-14 08:17 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by marzwoody View Post
    Esp over faber vs bruce leeroy. in what reality does that make sense? the UFC must be smoking that strong weed.
    You should realize by now that the UFC always puts a strong fight as the "main event" on the televised prelims to boost viewership in hopes that will lead to more impulse PPV buys. I personally don't care what order the fights occur in because I watch the entire card from Fight Pass prelims to tv to PPV.
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    I just wanna know if anyone is gonna make a small play on Alexis Davis against Rhonda Rousey with those odds being offered up?..

    This is MMA and anything is possible, with that being said I'm gonna wait til game time when those odds reach -1500 or more and play 20 bucks on Davis.. It's money probably lost but damn if I'm gonna parlay Rhonda Rousey on every other fight thinking it's a lock just to have action...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I just wanna know if anyone is gonna make a small play on Alexis Davis against Rhonda Rousey with those odds being offered up?..

    This is MMA and anything is possible, with that being said I'm gonna wait til game time when those odds reach -1500 or more and play 20 bucks on Davis.. It's money probably lost but damn if I'm gonna parlay Rhonda Rousey on every other fight thinking it's a lock just to have action...
    If Davis gets Rousey's back like Carmouche did then Rousey's going to sleep.
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  30. 06-29-14 08:53 PM #30
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    I put half a unit on Davis. Rousey isn't invincible and Davis isn't exactly a can from what I can tell. I figure it's worth a shot. I think Rousey is far more likely to go down than Faber actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    If Davis gets Rousey's back like Carmouche did then Rousey's going to sleep.
    Big if Ronny........

    This would be an upset equivalent to Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson back in the day.. Probably would be the biggest upset in UFC history if I had to guess on the main stage... I can't remember a +1000 dog winning a fight on a main card...
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  32. 06-30-14 12:49 AM #32
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    Alexis Davis and Alex Caceres were both worth at least a small play at +1000. I put $25 on each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn View Post
    Alexis Davis and Alex Caceres were both worth at least a small play at +1000. I put $25 on each.
    Personally i think demons have a better chance of escaping from a vortex in the sky, then those two winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marzwoody View Post
    Personally i think demons have a better chance of escaping from a vortex in the sky, then those two winning.
    These people need to realize these fights are worked shoots. WWE had some fixed matches at Money in the Bank and some were real. Same thing happens with the other Entertainment brand "UFC." Botched worked shoot been going on in zuffa for a long time------>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyboard Warrior View Post
    These people need to realize these fights are worked shoots. WWE had some fixed matches at Money in the Bank and some were real. Same thing happens with the other Entertainment brand "UFC." Botched worked shoot been going on in zuffa for a long time------>
    Looks real to me
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