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  • gators0708
    SBR MVP
    • 10-07-10
    • 2318

    #5636
    I think Blake upsets DelPo tomorrow! any thoughts?
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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #5637
      Blake handicap maybe worth a go, ML is a dartboard dog. The DelPo who played Davis Cup in Serbia beats this version of James Blake. Might be a tight set, maybe both if Blake serves balls out ... but I think DelPo is here looking for points and wins.
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      • Boxing Champ
        SBR MVP
        • 03-11-11
        • 3358

        #5638
        Originally posted by sharlataans
        Tomorrow leans:

        Benneteau 2:0
        Blake +5.5

        Davydenko -3.5
        EP...5Dimes does not haveBenneteau 2:0.. It has games handicap and over/under...
        Do I leave it alone or does it translate to some games handicap that I can play???
        Thanks...
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        • EaglesPhan36
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 71662

          #5639
          Those aren't my picks. Those are Sharlataans
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          • TheWu
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-20-10
            • 488

            #5640
            Well what are your picks sir?
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            • Boxing Champ
              SBR MVP
              • 03-11-11
              • 3358

              #5641
              Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
              Those aren't my picks. Those are Sharlataans
              Oh shit..My bad....
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #5642
                ATP Moscow
                Kukushkin +190
                Tomic-Zopp Over 22 [-125]
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                • Big 12 Expert
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-23-11
                  • 166

                  #5643
                  EP is Zopp any good?
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                  • gators0708
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-07-10
                    • 2318

                    #5644
                    I don't know much about Zopp but I do know that Tomic DOES NOT show up in these 250 events!
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                    • EaglesPhan36
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 71662

                      #5645
                      Tomic has very little experience on these indoor courts and his flat performance in Kuala Lumpur against Cipolla only furthers the question marks of whether he was just rusty or not good on this surface, so I will not be surprised to see him struggle some. Zopp has already had loads of court time here in qualis. If you can get +4 on him, I think that is pretty good too. I only had +3.5, so went with the over instead as Tomic tends to play a lot of three setters lately or two set matches that give this an opportunity.

                      May add some more in the morning. Beat for now due to lack of sleep, must sleep now for a bit.
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                      • Boxing Champ
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-11-11
                        • 3358

                        #5646
                        Thanks for the plays EP....
                        Much appreciated....

                        Do we play small on Kukushkin, or is this a strong side???
                        The reason I'm asking is because we've been losing underdog plays lately....
                        Thanks EP
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                        • sharlataans
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-13-10
                          • 1927

                          #5647
                          Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                          ATP Moscow
                          Kukushkin +190
                          Tomic-Zopp Over 22 [-125]
                          These look good picks. I like Kukushkin here
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                          • sharlataans
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-13-10
                            • 1927

                            #5648
                            Originally posted by beefcake
                            I know Benneteau has been hot as of late. But as long as Donskoy does not take a dive, I think he can beat the him. Crazy odds on this one.
                            I am playing this mainly because I think Donskoy goes for some dirty money. And I figured this is the only way in this match. Donskoy has been fixing matches left and right. I have seen a couple of them live, do doubt for me.
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                            • Astros148
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-11-10
                              • 1417

                              #5649
                              you guys ready for another up and down night/day lol. made alot yesterday but i have a bad feeling bout tonight for some reason,let me be wrong

                              Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                              i made this thread so we can discuss bout live games and stuff instead of spamming this thread so much. good luck!
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                              • Ericg320
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-24-09
                                • 2861

                                #5650
                                Rolling:

                                2 Team - Parlay
                                #4146 - Mikhail Kukushkin +1½ (-150)

                                #4148 - Viktor Troicki -1½ (-380)


                                GL all!
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                                • Boxing Champ
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-11-11
                                  • 3358

                                  #5651
                                  Originally posted by sharlataans

                                  I am playing this mainly because I think Donskoy goes for some dirty money. And I figured this is the only way in this match. Donskoy has been fixing matches left and right. I have seen a couple of them live, do doubt for me.
                                  If Donskoy plays dirty and fixes money... He is the Underdog today....
                                  How can he throw a match? If he was favorite...Yeah.. he can..
                                  Unless Bennetau is dirty too..you have only one thing to worry about...
                                  The only thing Donskoy can do if he decides to fix something is lose by more than the handicap...
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                                  • Pride
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-12-10
                                    • 4238

                                    #5652
                                    lol? he can still lose as a dog and be involved with fixing the match.
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                                    • hawley
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-10-10
                                      • 14270

                                      #5653
                                      what does being the favourite or underdog have to do with throwing the match???

                                      You throw you match - you lose. doesn't matter if you are favoured to win it.
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                                      • sharlataans
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-13-10
                                        • 1927

                                        #5654
                                        Just followed Shari advice and looked up set betting money on Donskoy match at Betfair. And it's $7 500, while in all other bigger games it is not more than $500. Make me feel better

                                        Edit: After examining Betfair, going to go big 10x on Benneteau 2:0.

                                        Also found at one russian online bookie (http://www.parimatch.com), they offer set betting on all matches but this one
                                        is taken down!

                                        Warning, do not follow me on this This might not end well
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                                        • Boxing Champ
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 3358

                                          #5655
                                          Originally posted by sharlataans
                                          Just followed Shari advice and looked up set betting money on Donskoy match at Betfair. And it's $7 500, while in all other bigger games it is not more than $500. Make me feel better

                                          Edit: After examining Betfair, going to go big 10x on Benneteau 2:0
                                          Where do you go to get that info???
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                                          • sharlataans
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-13-10
                                            • 1927

                                            #5656
                                            Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                            Where do you go to get that info???
                                            Just go to betfair and have a look at matched amounts. And compare between similar matches. Do not follow me on this as I mentioned this is a risky play. I do it for me to prove my theory on Donskoy.
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                                            • Boxing Champ
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-11-11
                                              • 3358

                                              #5657
                                              Originally posted by hawley
                                              what does being the favourite or underdog have to do with throwing the match???

                                              You throw you match - you lose. doesn't matter if you are favoured to win it.
                                              If Nadal is playing Donskoy..how can Donskoy throw a match???
                                              He loses either way...how are you gonna make money by throwing it????
                                              you make money, when you are expected to win and lose...
                                              Thus the huge underdog/fixer side.... gets paid 5-1....10-1....whatever....
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                                              • sharlataans
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-13-10
                                                • 1927

                                                #5658
                                                forget it
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                                                • hawley
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-10-10
                                                  • 14270

                                                  #5659
                                                  Originally posted by Boxing Champ

                                                  If Nadal is playing Donskoy..how can Donskoy throw a match???
                                                  He loses either way...how are you gonna make money by throwing it????
                                                  you make money, when you are expected to win and lose...
                                                  Thus the huge underdog/fixer side.... gets paid 5-1....10-1....whatever....
                                                  Why could he not throw it and bet the spread? or just the favourites ML?

                                                  Using Nadal is extreme because he would be the biggest fav possible but as long as there is a line the game can be throw with money being put on the other player?
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                                                  • Boxing Champ
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-11-11
                                                    • 3358

                                                    #5660
                                                    Originally posted by sharlataans

                                                    Just go to betfair and have a look at matched amounts. And compare between similar matches. Do not follow me on this as I mentioned this is a risky play. I do it for me to prove my theory on Donskoy.
                                                    I clicked on "Where the money is"..but I don't see Donskoy match...
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                                                    • Boxing Champ
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                      • 3358

                                                      #5661
                                                      Originally posted by Boxing Champ

                                                      If Donskoy plays dirty and fixes money... He is the Underdog today....
                                                      How can he throw a match? If he was favorite...Yeah.. he can..
                                                      Unless Bennetau is dirty too..you have only one thing to worry about...
                                                      The only thing Donskoy can do if he decides to fix something is lose by more than the handicap...


                                                      Originally posted by hawley

                                                      Why could he not throw it and bet the spread? or just the favourites ML?

                                                      Using Nadal is extreme because he would be the biggest fav possible but as long as there is a line the game can be throw with money being put on the other player?
                                                      Isn't that what I said????
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                                                      • hawley
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-10-10
                                                        • 14270

                                                        #5662
                                                        Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                                        [/B]


                                                        Isn't that what I said????
                                                        I give up
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                                                        • Boxing Champ
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 3358

                                                          #5663
                                                          Originally posted by hawley

                                                          I give up
                                                          One last time...try to think of it as common sense.....
                                                          Donskoy is 3.75
                                                          Bennetau(clean does not take bribes) is 1.25

                                                          Donskoy is dirty...he can be fixed by Russian Mafia...
                                                          Can Mafia fix pay him to WIN the match and win 3.75????? NO
                                                          He can only throw it.....
                                                          Why would gangstas Pay a shit load of money to Donskoy so he can LOSE....
                                                          If he LOSES...Mafia only gets 1/4th of what they bet.....WHY????????
                                                          What they do is go to a guy that is Huge favorite.....PAY HIM...HE LOSES...UNDERDOG WINS,
                                                          MAFIA'S MONEY was on the UNDERDOG... They get 4 times what they bet...not 1/4th....
                                                          Do you get it now?????
                                                          The only other thing Donskoy can do is lose by more than handicap..Mafia gets even money
                                                          minus the juice....
                                                          Do I make sense now?????
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                                                          • sharlataans
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-13-10
                                                            • 1927

                                                            #5664
                                                            Mafia has shitload of money. If it is a guaranteed win even 10% is a lot. Benetteau 2:0 pays 1.72 at bet365
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                                                            • hawley
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-10-10
                                                              • 14270

                                                              #5665
                                                              So all your trying to say is there is more value in the favourite throwing a match?
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                                                              • hawley
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-10-10
                                                                • 14270

                                                                #5666
                                                                Originally posted by sharlataans
                                                                Mafia has shitload of money. If it is a guaranteed win even 10% is a lot. Benetteau 2:0 pays 1.72 at bet365
                                                                This is my point.

                                                                Does not matter the odds if they are guaranteed to win the bet. They just have to bet more which is easy if it is the likes of the mafia.
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                                                                • Boxing Champ
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-11-11
                                                                  • 3358

                                                                  #5667
                                                                  Originally posted by sharlataans
                                                                  Mafia has shitload of money. If it is a guaranteed win even 10% is a lot. Benetteau 2:0 pays 1.72 at bet365
                                                                  I agree..i'm sure they will take 10% and all...but why risk???
                                                                  When they have players that are pretty good that have done it before, they don't care
                                                                  about Nepal open....they are big favorites in first couple rounds....they throw a match like
                                                                  2...3 people yesterday at like +800....
                                                                  Why make 10%...50 times, when you can make +500 once....
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                                                                  • Boxing Champ
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-11-11
                                                                    • 3358

                                                                    #5668
                                                                    I'm sure they mix it up through out the whole field..Favorites, underdogs....
                                                                    Handicaps. Over/Unders..And everything else..
                                                                    LIVE BETTING....
                                                                    I guess we are all right in our own way.....


                                                                    P.S. Can Javanovski beat Zvonareva too???
                                                                    at like +700?????(That was fixed yesterday)
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                                                                    • sharlataans
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-13-10
                                                                      • 1927

                                                                      #5669
                                                                      BoxingChamp, no offence, but how old are you?
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                                                                      • hawley
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-10-10
                                                                        • 14270

                                                                        #5670
                                                                        Originally posted by Boxing Champ

                                                                        I agree..i'm sure they will take 10% and all...but why risk???
                                                                        When they have players that are pretty good that have done it before, they don't care
                                                                        about Nepal open....they are big favorites in first couple rounds....they throw a match like
                                                                        2...3 people yesterday at like +800....
                                                                        Why make 10%...50 times, when you can make +500 once....

                                                                        If it is fixed there is no risk
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