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  • EaglesPhan36
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    • 12-06-06
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    #1086
    Knee-jerk reaction to the French Open draw:

    Federer Quarter
    Federer has a great draw here. His first test would be Wawrinka or maybe Monfils in the 4th round. Seeing as he crushed Wawrinka and Monfils has been playing like an idiot for the past couple weeks, should be no problem to the QFs. Soderling is on the bottom of the draw and who knows what he is going to do. He has looked less than ordinary lately, so even though he could surprise and run deep - not expecting it. Bottom could be set up for Gulbis to make a run. Unless there is a drastic change of form by Monfils or Soderling, Federer to the semis.

    Murray Quarter
    Yikes. Andy Murray could go out Day 1 going up against Gasquet. His draw is brutal, so I don't expect him to survive long here. If he gets by Gasquet, the 3rd or 4th round will catch him with a Baghdatis, Isner or Berdych. Berdych and Isner could clash again in the 3rd round. I think the winner there has a legit shot at the QFs although Berdych has never done well here. Don't discount Gasquet if he upsets Murray in Round 1, the draw opens for him nicely although I don't think he'll be as lucky with upsets as he was in Nice this week. Down on bottom, it's Tsonga. He's got a couple winnable matches, but could catch de Bakker in the 3rd and potentially Troicki/Robredo or Youzhny in the 4th. This quarter looks like it is likely to have a "surprise" semifinalist. I think anyone from Gasquet to Youzhny to Tsonga might have a shot. Will need to study this one further.

    Djokovic Quarter
    Up top, Roddick is the seeded player. He did make the 4th round in an easy draw last year. This year, he's got no build-up on clay prior to Roland Garros. Monaco looms in the 3rd. Ferrer in the 4th. A-Rod is toast by then at the latest. Should be a nice draw for Ferrer here. Could be Monaco or Roddick vs. Ferrer in the 4th. Bottom is Djokovic who in his own right comes here with question marks on form and health after suffering from allergies in the Spring. His draw is manageable, but features some land mines in Hanescu and Querrey. Looks like a potential showdown with Juan Carlos Ferrero in the 4th. That match-up hasn't happened since 2007. I can see Djokovic going deep here if he comes out firing or JCF could take him out. I think Ferrer has a solid shot of getting to the semis here. He's only made as far as the QFs twice, so this would be big for him. I think it's him or Djokovic.

    Nadal Quarter
    Nadal should cruise into the QFs. Up top it's Verdasco as the seeded player. He's got a tough draw with Kohlschreiber, Almagro & Fernando Gonzalez. He's played a lot of tennis and I won't be surprised with Verdasco gets fatigued and beaten in the 3rd or 4th round. You can't really make a case for any intriguing match-up problems for Nadal here. He's pretty killed everyone he could potentially line up against in the QFs. An interesting one in theory would be Fernando Gonzalez because he could go with the Soderling grip it & rip it approach of 2009. Still, he hasn't had much success against Rafa on all surfaces, never mind RG.

    Preliminary Final 4: Federer, Tsonga, Djokovic, Nadal

    I think the stage is set for a Federer-Nadal final, but then again that's probably what is always predictable here. In the Nadal era though, there have been few surprises in the French outside of last year. Even then, Federer made the final. I think if Tsonga is healthy, he could be a real surprise to some with a deep run. He has shown his ability on clay this Spring and I think just needs to get off to a strong start.

    Round 1 Mouth Waterers

    Murray/Gasquet: Will be a supremely popular upset pick I believe which may or may not give you a chance to get Murray cheap.

    Tursunov/Gimeno-Traver: Tursunov hasn't played since last August because of ankle problems. Gimeno-Traver is a dirt specialist, although not a great one. Just curious to see the line here and what weird Russianess it might present.

    Troicki/Robredo: Young buck vs. Old man. Old man has looked real old this season.

    Llodra/Bellucci: Would have been a no brainer a few weeks ago to take Bellucci, but he's looked awful. Llodra had a nice run in Bordeaux and could be an upset pick here.

    Hewitt/Chardy: Yeah my man Chardy. I know I shouldn't bet this, so I must stay away because I never get it right. A healthy Hewitt perhaps, but the price is the key.
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    • beefcake
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      • 11-26-09
      • 14029

      #1087
      Gasquets futures odds are already falling,I might have a go,so I can hedge in the semis...I agree though the surprise draw is that bracket..
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      • EaglesPhan36
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        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #1088
        I think books are gonna make a lot of money on people backing Gasquet in futures. Yeah he has been on a tear, but as of today - he hasn't beaten anyone worth a damn on clay in the last two weeks IMO. If he wins today, let's see what he does against a tired Verdasco to see if he can step it up.
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        • beefcake
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          • 11-26-09
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          #1089
          Well spoken.....I know cilic has been ass since the aussie,but is he that bad to be 500-1,no respect,hes crap on clay to be sure,but for pure value as far as ranking goes..that got to be the best Value out there..
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          • beefcake
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            • 11-26-09
            • 14029

            #1090
            did the gasquet match turn into a WTA match...break,break..

            If maria can play haalf way decent,both overs are looking good!
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            • beefcake
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              • 11-26-09
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              #1091
              both totals are winners!!
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              • EaglesPhan36
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                • 12-06-06
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                #1092
                Just need Gasquet to pull it together long enough to win this sucker and cash the parlay.
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                • Goat Milk
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                  • 03-24-10
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                  #1093
                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                  Gasquet will cruise through this tourney bro. It's his to lose.


                  I wonder what the Verdasco/Gasquet line is going to be
                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                  • shari91
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                    • 02-23-10
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                    #1094
                    Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                    Just need Gasquet to pull it together long enough to win this sucker and cash the parlay.
                    Great job EP!!
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                    • EaglesPhan36
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                      • 12-06-06
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                      #1095
                      Good bounce back after an awful day yesterday. I think Verdasco was an enormous favorite in Barcelona in the -300s last time they played. Betting it will be lower, but still pretty substanial for Verdasco.
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                      • Goat Milk
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                        #1096
                        EP I think Verdasco will only be -185...
                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                        • EaglesPhan36
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                          #1097
                          Only -165. Gonna watch and see if there is any action on this tonight. In all honesty, that is a great price for Verdasco.
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                          • EaglesPhan36
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                            #1098
                            Not as big into betting WTA, but still like to peruse the draw and offer opinions.

                            SERENA QUARTER
                            If Serena is right, she's got a pretty good path to the QFs. Peer is up here and has played well of late, but is not in Serena's class even on clay. Interesting 1st rounder with Cornet & Pavlyuchenkova. Bottom half of the quarter is strong. Sharapova, Stosur & Henin. Wow. Group of Death! I think whomever gets out of the bottom portion from that trio will take this quarter. Probably comes down to Henin or Stosur as Henin will get Sharapova first in the 3rd round if they both make it.

                            JANKOVIC QUARTER
                            Jankovic has a tough draw, I think. Alona Bondarenko potentially in the 3rd and then Wickmayer or maybe Hantuchova in the 4th. She'll have to work hard to get through. Bottom half features Aggie Radwanska & Safina. Also throw in an unseeded Ivanovic and 21st seed Zvonareva. Wow. A lot of talent here. Radwanksa or Zvonareva. Radwanksa has not played well this Spring and has a history of being stopped at the 4th round here. If Safina could find her form in the 1st round or two, she could emerge as a dark horse here. Funny to say about a back-2-back finalist at RG.

                            WOZNIACKI QUARTER
                            Before she rolled her ankle, Woz would have been a pretty popular pick I think here as she was really dominating clay. Since though, she has struggled some. In her bottom portion of the bracket, she has a potentially tough out in the 3rd round against Dulgheru who is quietly playing great tennis on dirt. Flavia Pennetta looms as the only other threat in this portion of the draw, but she's done next to nothing on clay this season and rarely does damage at RG. With Wozniacki's health in question, Dulgheru could sneak into the QFs if she can handle the big stage. Up top, defending champ Kuznetsova is the seed. She looks ripe for a feast or famine French Open. Her form is poor heading in and she draws a tough opponent to open in Cirstea. Cirstea made the QFs here last year, but has been fairly average this Spring. Na Li looms on the bottom of the draw and could be the forgotten one along with Schiavone. This bracket seems the most likely to me to have a large amount of upheaval and a surprise semifinalist.

                            VENUS QUARTER
                            Venus draws tough out the gate with Schnyder, but that's winnable. Cibulkova also looms in this portion of the draw in a potential 3rd round clash which has been Venus' undoing in the last three trips to RG. Rezai might be a popular pick in Venus' portion of the draw after her win last week. She could face Szavay or Petrova in the 3rd round. Watch Petrova's first rounder - she is up against a decent qualifier. Don't be surprised if she's knocked out. If not though, Petrova has a chance in this bracket. Up top, it's Dementieva and let's just throw her away right now. She's a mess and has a tough draw anyhow with Garrigues a likely 2nd round opponent. Martinez-Sanchez & Azarenka are the other seeds in this portion. They could be on a collision course for a 3rd round meeting if Azarenka is fit. If she is, Azarenka could be your QF here to go against I think either Venus or Cibulkova.

                            Preliminary Final 4: Stosur, Zvonareva, Kuznetsova, Venus


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                            • EaglesPhan36
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                              • 12-06-06
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                              #1099
                              Verdasco-Gasquet Update
                              Money as expected coming on Gasquet. Pinnacle opened at -160 and there was a big push to -170 for Verdasco by someone, but now it's at -148. Gonna keep watching this tonight to see how much more movement there is. Gasquet owned the head-2-head from 2004-2007 with a 5-0 mark, but then it's all Verdasco from 2007-2010 with 4 wins over Gasquet in the past 14 months, including two on clay. Both have been serving well and that likely is where this could be won or lost. Gasquet won just one more point than Starace in his match today, a 7-6-, 7-6 win. I'm leaning toward Verdasco the lower the price gets. People are gonna play this fatigue angle on Verdasco and yes, he has played a lot - but he hasn't shown much fatigue yet. The Melzer loss was simply the case of a guy who always battles him hard and had his number. That early exit may have also given him some good rest for this week. We'll see where the number goes. I'l needing below -150 to strongly consider Nando here.
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                              • Goat Milk
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                                #1100
                                EP Nando has gotten pushed around on a few occassions in this tourney but was still able to pull out a win. If he continues to play like he's been playing, and Gasquet continues to play like he's been playing, there's no question in my mind Verdasco will lose.

                                I have that Gasquet future to win and I might hedge if Verdasco line comes lower for a guaranteed profit. I think the over in this match is very, very solid.
                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                • Bigpete2010
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                                  • 04-09-10
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                                  #1101
                                  verdasco is good!!!!!
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
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                                    • 12-06-06
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                                    #1102
                                    Things I THINK I Know ... Saturday, May 22nd

                                    No go for me on Verdasco-Gasquet. No edge to me at the price. I do believe Verdasco wins. Gasquet still has to prove to me that he can beat someone worth a damn on this surface in 2010 which he has not to date. This is his chance, so we shall see. I hope Verdasco demolishes him so that perhaps some people can save their money on French Open futures with Gasquet by not taking him.

                                    I THINK where I will go those is back to Dusseldorf and the team cup competition. Team USA needs a win with Querrey against Monaco to get things started on the right foot. Querrey is not as accomplished as Monaco on dirt, but he has acquitted himself nicely on this surface in 2010. The Samurai is a perfect 3-0 this week and has the Belgrade title to boot on clay. Monaco seems to be struggling with a wrist injury as he barely outlasted Troicki in a 3rd set tie break and then got demolished by Chardy last time. At +110, I THINK I have no problem backing Querrey here.

                                    Dulgheru in Warsaw looks tasty for parlay purposes. Why wouldn't you go with a girl who hasn't lost on this court in two years?
                                    Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 05-22-10, 02:54 AM.
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                                    • Goat Milk
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                                      #1103
                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                      I think the over in this match is very, very solid.
                                      Fukkin a I knew it I was up til 5 a.m. waiting for 5 dimes slow ass to release the o/u lines and they never came out- lost out on free money once again. I hope Gasquet pulls this off I just woke up so I have no clue how either is playing
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • shari91
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                                        #1104
                                        Gasquet choked after he won the first set but fought his way back into after being down 4-1 in the 2nd. I'm just happy I took the over and 3 sets prop as well as the ML. Also have Gasquet 2-1.
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                                        • Goat Milk
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                                          #1105
                                          Shari what's the score in the tiebreaker my sports package isn't showing this match for some reason
                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                          • shari91
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                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                            Shari what's the score in the tiebreaker my sports package isn't showing this match for some reason
                                            Tied at 5 with Gasquet serving.
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                                            • shari91
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                                              #1107
                                              Woohoooooo!!! Gasquet
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                                              • TennisBabe
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                                                • 02-08-10
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                                                #1108
                                                Lots of credit to Gasquet for coming back after being broken on his serve for the match, losing six straight points, down 4-1 in the 3rd with a knee injury.
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                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                  #1109
                                                  Thanks for the 50 pts EP
                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
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                                                    • 12-06-06
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                                                    #1110
                                                    French Open THOUGHTS ... Sunday, May 23rd

                                                    I THINK I like the veteran from Chile, Nicolas Massu over Fabio Fognini at -115. Fognini hasn't done much on clay this season against anyone worth a crap. He's just 1-6. At Roland Garros, Fognini has lost both times he made the main draw to experienced players in Andreev & Monaco. Massu got back to the main draw in 2009, winning his opener before bowing to Wawrinka. He's played 8 of the last 9 main draws at RG, so I THINK his experience and better talent on dirt gets him through in 4 sets.

                                                    Parlay options are minimal Sunday as there are a lot of bigger favorites where you'd need to line your parlay with 4-5 chalk selections to get a decent payout. My choices, I THINK to include would be de Bakker, Venus, Cibulkova, Youzhny & Gulbis. Going with those 5 would see you pay -105 for the parlay. My personal opinion is to be careful on the high chalk parlays as the more you throw in, the more likely there is to be an upset to screw you.

                                                    I THINK getting a Nadal-Federer final prop at +135 is enticing. This is the most likely final match-up to me and well, as usual here at Roland Garros. Only men's future I will go with is Federer at +510.

                                                    Women's futures that I am THINKING about, Venus Williams at +1000. I just have a gut feeling about Venus this year. Stosur small at +2800 is a possibility as I like her clay court game, but she has a brutal draw to work through just to get to the semis. I also THINK I like a small play on Zvonareva at +8000. It's not without its pitfalls as she'd need to beat Safina potentially in the 3rd round, but Safina seems very off this year. If Zvonareva advances there, she'd have maybe a Radwanska waiting in the 4th and potentially Jankovic in the QFs. All do-able, so the longshot odds are appealing to me.

                                                    Will be soul searching tonight on the futures to finalize them, but those are my THOUGHTS for now. Gotta go get my BBQ on. Good luck on Opening Day boys and girls, remember not to stretch yourself thin in the first few days. Will add any O/U numbers if any book is posting them for the early rounds, not sure if they will for many of these or not.

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                                                    • noober
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                                                      #1111
                                                      Good luck. I am with you on Massu.
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                                                      • tonibrazza
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                                                        • 04-23-10
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                                                        #1112
                                                        good luck and ty
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                                                        • shari91
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                                                          #1113
                                                          I think I'm just going to parlay the guys I took in TB's contest and be done with it. There'll be so much chalk flying on that bet I'll probably choke but I can't see an upset that stands out to me so far. Best of luck!
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
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                                                            #1114
                                                            So much for Massu. Loses in the 5th set. Oh well, many more days to go. Hopefully find some good stuff for tomorrow and grab a winner.
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
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                                                              #1115
                                                              Things I THINK I Know ... Monday, May 24th

                                                              I THINK Monday is going to be a Dog Day for me.

                                                              I THINK I will start with a home standing Frenchman who passed through qualifying, Benoit Paire at +155. He goes against Olivier Rochus who upset Soderling last week, which I still THINK was more of Soderling not playing well. Rochus has more experience on dirt, but is barely a 50% winner for his career and hasn't won a main draw match at RG since 2006. This one feels a bit more like even odds, so the better price I THINK is best here.

                                                              This is a throw-away SMALL shot, but I THINK Tursunov at +410 is something I have to do. The Russian hasn't played since late Summer 2009, but the odds here for someone like Gimeno-Traver who isn't the best clay courter in the world give me reason to have a go here. Tursunov isn't a great dirt baller, but he's competitive when healthy - so we shall see.

                                                              Xavier Malisse at +110 over Simon Greul, I THINK is a solid shot. Malisse has actually got a pretty decent track record at RG with a 12-7 record, while Greul has never even won a set here. Malisse hasn't played much on dirt in 2010 with a 4-4 mark, while Greul sports a 4-8 mark on clay. This should be a competitive match and I THINK once again that the plus odds make Malisse my man.

                                                              I THINK for a parlay on Monday, I would choose Andy Murray & Sam Stosur. Murray gets Gasquet and while this is a popular upset pick for many, Gasquet could be gassed here after playing a lot of tennis in the past two weeks and suffering from leg cramps in the final in Nice on Sunday. He got a day of rest, but in a best of 5 format - this isn't a great time for Gasquet to get someone like Murray who will not fatigue. Murray has not been playing well, but this could be a spot for him to get on a roll at RG or flame out. I choose the first and Stosur is someone I THINK has the stones to make a deep run here. Parlay is -126.
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                                                              • rumple
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                                                                #1116
                                                                Any comment on the Oudin match? I know her clay form is awful but she was losing as a decent favorite, now as a +230 dog is the time to back her.
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                                                                • actionaddict86
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                                                                  • 02-13-09
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                                                                  #1117
                                                                  good analyzing EP36 however, u r a terrible capper. ... no offense good luck on ur fo bets
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                                                                  • noober
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                                                                    • 2012

                                                                    #1118
                                                                    Good luck. Agree that the Paire-Rochus match is 50-50.
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                                                                    • nocode1
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                                                                      #1119
                                                                      VLIEGEN, Kristof (BEL) vs DARCIS, Steve ...... Darcis 1 unit
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                                                                      • tailmypicks
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                                                                        #1120
                                                                        parlaying stosur and bellucci
                                                                        Baba-e-qaum ne farmaya, too chal me aya
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