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  • Hardcoar
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-17-13
    • 15606

    #421
    I don't get these odds at all. I really don't. They should be reversed and then some.
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    • fitguy67
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-13-11
      • 5082

      #422
      Originally posted by Hardcoar
      Queer @ 2.06 – 10 units
      in non-Betfair terms (ie. with the 6.5% tax pre-accounted for) that'd be 1.9911 right?

      not being a smartass at all, and would have no right to be, as i notice you always account for it on your updates, anyway...just want to calibrate my line-shopping target price with yours...

      i agree with you that this new-look leaner/meaner Querrey should find Sock less trouble than Verdasco was yesterday...Querrey showed great business-like composure finishing that 3rd set yesterday once he got up a break...not tentative and self-sabotaging like that pudgier Queerboy that's cost us all too much money in the past
      Last edited by fitguy67; 04-12-15, 05:12 PM.
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      • Hardcoar
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-17-13
        • 15606

        #423
        Since I use Betfair so much nowadays I get a decent discount so my effective commission is about 4.5% currently, but as 6.5% is the standard that's what I'm using for the purposes of (grading) this thread.

        As for the match, even discounting (which you obviously shouldn't be) the lack of experience in later stages of ATP tournaments, there is no way in f*cking hell Suck is favorite. He may keep it close, he may even win, but I simply cannot abstain a significant bet in this spot. A try on Queer 2-1 @ 4.3+ might be worth it too.
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        • Hardcoar
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-17-13
          • 15606

          #424
          BURIALLY REKT!


          Many opportunities missed, many gifted away. Congratulations to Suck on his title and E-Phan for not hedging much!

          Moving on...
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          • beefcake
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-26-09
            • 14029

            #425
            Some good dogs and TV coverage for the Sarasota chally my man...
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            • VikesPhanatic84
              SBR Sharp
              • 08-16-10
              • 401

              #426
              What do u think of delbonis losing?
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              • beefcake
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-26-09
                • 14029

                #427
                Lot of action on Nishioka man. Boner is by heads and tails better player obviously. Think Novikov has a better chance.Bu who knows where Delboners head is playing a shit prep chally..
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                • Hardcoar
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-17-13
                  • 15606

                  #428
                  Originally posted by beefcake
                  Some good dogs and TV coverage for the Sarasota chally my man...
                  Do they have Mike C? Everybody loves Mike C!
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                  • Hardcoar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-17-13
                    • 15606

                    #429
                    I think Delbonis destroys Nishioka. IMO the only chance he loses is if Japman#2 goes full Cilic (which he is technically incapable of), or Delbonis really doesn't care or is injured.

                    Edit: Delbonis @ 1.3 is f*cking tempting...
                    Last edited by Hardcoar; 04-13-15, 02:34 PM.
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                    • fitguy67
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-13-11
                      • 5082

                      #430
                      i took Delbonis as a small 33%-interest loan, payable within 90mins...with eyes wide open that there's always a chance i get stiffed (ie. the jap miraculously goes all-Cilic=divine-intervention or it was all "scripted" from the start=mob-intervention)...
                      Last edited by fitguy67; 04-13-15, 03:00 PM.
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                      • kenz
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-09-12
                        • 4879

                        #431
                        Delboner is an Argentinian fixer and a head-case. Would not back him on a challenger even versus a shitty Japman. BOL guys
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                        • Hardcoar
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-17-13
                          • 15606

                          #432
                          You have a point Kenz, but do the chances of him dying on court, fixing the match, as well as his opponent going full Cilic respectively amount to more than 30%??
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                          • kenz
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-09-12
                            • 4879

                            #433
                            Originally posted by Hardcoar
                            You have a point Kenz, but do the chances of him dying on court, fixing the match, as well as his opponent going full Cilic respectively amount to more than 30%??
                            If Isner can go Cilic, anyone can
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                            • Hardcoar
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-17-13
                              • 15606

                              #434
                              When did Isner do that, then?
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                              • Hardcoar
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-17-13
                                • 15606

                                #435
                                Long second game or what??
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                                • kenz
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-12
                                  • 4879

                                  #436
                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                  When did Isner do that, then?
                                  vs Nishikori in Miami
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                                  • Hardcoar
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-17-13
                                    • 15606

                                    #437
                                    Yeah that was close enough, ha!
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                                    • fitguy67
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-13-11
                                      • 5082

                                      #438
                                      anyhow i collected my full stake plus winnings...er principle plus interest on that 2-hour/ 33%-payout "investment" on delbonis...

                                      but kenz' warning about avoiding gift-like odds on ATP guys slumming in Challengers has stuck in my craw

                                      "strategically allocating one's effort to maximize income" is well-known in any/all professions...so the "buyer/bettor beware"...it generally is far less rampant than tin-hatters would have you believe but at the same time it is far more common than the NEVER-myth that plain-vanilla dolts would have you believe...not anything to get obsessed about...but we should be wised up to it so that our "spidey sense" can help us avoid/minimize the downside of potential trap situations
                                      Last edited by fitguy67; 04-13-15, 10:26 PM.
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                                      • Hardcoar
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-17-13
                                        • 15606

                                        #439
                                        Mannarino @ 1.67 – 5 units
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                                        • Hardcoar
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-17-13
                                          • 15606

                                          #440
                                          Vesely @ 3.25 – 2 units
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                                          • Hardcoar
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-17-13
                                            • 15606

                                            #441
                                            Struff @ 3.95 – 2 units
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                                            • Hardcoar
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-17-13
                                              • 15606

                                              #442
                                              Can't get a thing right at the moment.
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                                              • lucasdawg
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-19-13
                                                • 3399

                                                #443
                                                verdasco worth a go?
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                                                • Hardcoar
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-17-13
                                                  • 15606

                                                  #444
                                                  I don't think so, no.
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                                                  • lucasdawg
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-19-13
                                                    • 3399

                                                    #445
                                                    ahhs thanks! was leaning the over but put abit on verdasco already. bol with your plays
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                                                    • Hardcoar
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-17-13
                                                      • 15606

                                                      #446
                                                      Verdasco looked great until he played against Queer, at which point he f*cked up badly. He has made a long trekkkk to Europe and the conditions are very different on these courts as well. I don't trust him at all and I expect Dimitrov to be solid and deliver.
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                                                      • lucasdawg
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-19-13
                                                        • 3399

                                                        #447
                                                        thanks for the useful information hardcoar!
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                                                        • Hardcoar
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-17-13
                                                          • 15606

                                                          #448
                                                          A bit late, perhaps...

                                                          I try to reply as soon as I'm able to.
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                                                          • lucasdawg
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-19-13
                                                            • 3399

                                                            #449
                                                            its aight,

                                                            on tomic and mayer 1set now
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                                                            • Hardcoar
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-17-13
                                                              • 15606

                                                              #450
                                                              Schiavone @ 2.12 – 5 units
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                                                              • Hardcoar
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-17-13
                                                                • 15606

                                                                #451
                                                                Haddad-Maia @ 3.55 – 2 units
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                                                                • Hardcoar
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-17-13
                                                                  • 15606

                                                                  #452
                                                                  Devvarman @ 4.8 – 3 units
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                                                                  • sluggy1616
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-21-13
                                                                    • 1317

                                                                    #453
                                                                    cmon man. agut or ms pova? u dont see no value?
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                                                                    • sluggy1616
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-21-13
                                                                      • 1317

                                                                      #454
                                                                      Originally posted by sluggy1616
                                                                      cmon man. agut or ms pova? u dont see no value?
                                                                      and big john getting in 74 and 78% of 1st serves 1st 2 matches. gotta be some value there against ass-picker
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                                                                      • sluggy1616
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-21-13
                                                                        • 1317

                                                                        #455
                                                                        Sorry bout spamming your thread! Got a little carried away
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