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  • the_situation
    SBR MVP
    • 10-22-10
    • 2735

    #491
    Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
    New York Yankees -161 $322
    Minnesota Twins +157 $162

    the liquidity is great at MB....

    great prices at MB...+162 at 5D...
    don't just post one game. I play on Matchy/Pinny/5D/Betfair and MLB prices are better on Matchbook about 90% of the time.
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    • QQPALLADIUM
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      • 01-22-10
      • 367

      #492
      St. Louis Cardinals -126 $38
      Chicago Cubs +125 $985

      $38 bucks...yeah the line is great...it's the amount posted...next line is -130...same as 5D
      sbr
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      • the_situation
        SBR MVP
        • 10-22-10
        • 2735

        #493
        Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
        St. Louis Cardinals -126 $38
        Chicago Cubs +125 $985

        $38 bucks...yeah the line is great...it's the amount posted...next line is -130...same as 5D
        St Louis Cardinals (Westbrook) at Chicago Cubs (Lopez)
        Aug 21 8:05 pm St Louis Cardinals
        -130$12,366

        -131$224


        -141$16,920



        23Chicago Cubs
        +126$3,970

        +125$985


        +124$8,065





        Lines are better than what any other books are offering ATM and liquidity is there.
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        • QQPALLADIUM
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-22-10
          • 367

          #494
          not one trade since...almost 45 minutes....for the nationally televised game
          sbr
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          • todd73nj
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-09-08
            • 824

            #495
            Nothing moves there. Absolutely nothing. Sits for hours and hours and hours.

            I have a program that finds arbitrage that operates for all to see on my website - do you have any idea how many times Matchbook pops up? Tons. 2nd only to Betfair.

            I have many international users who make arbitrage plays - they all complain that the great odds are usually posted for a few bucks. Nothing worth betting on. Funny part - those odds sit there for hours, and hours and hours.
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            • todd73nj
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-09-08
              • 824

              #496
              Originally posted by the_situation

              don't just post one game. I play on Matchy/Pinny/5D/Betfair and MLB prices are better on Matchbook about 90% of the time.

              MB, 5d, and Betfair are all part of my arbitrage program. If you are a $10 better, yes you will find a few bucks at MB.
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              • Hareeba!
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                • 07-01-06
                • 36793

                #497
                Originally posted by todd73nj
                MB, 5d, and Betfair are all part of my arbitrage program. If you are a $10 better, yes you will find a few bucks at MB.
                I'm NOT and arb. player.
                I'm NOT a $10 bettor.
                I've consistently managed to get better MLB odds at MB all season than I can find anywhere else, including Pinnacle, Greek and Betfair.
                When I post offers at both MB and Betfair. MB's get matched far more frequently than BF's do and for larger amounts.
                Last edited by Hareeba!; 08-22-11, 12:44 AM.
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                • the_situation
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                  • 10-22-10
                  • 2735

                  #498
                  It's pretty obvious Todd/Thremp and anyone else bashing MB are just bitter that they are no longer able to play there anymore..don't worry guys, maybe someday the USA will change
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                  • todd73nj
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-09-08
                    • 824

                    #499
                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                    I'm NOT and arb. player. I'm NOT a $10 bettor. I've consistently managed to get better MLB odds at MB all season than I can find anywhere else, including Pinnacle, Greek and Betfair. When I post offers at both MB and Betfair. MB's get matched far more frequently than BF's do and for larger amounts.
                    Ctrl C / Ctrl V

                    Originally posted by the_situation
                    It's pretty obvious Todd/Thremp and anyone else bashing MB are just bitter that they are no longer able to play there anymore..don't worry guys, maybe someday the USA will change
                    Not at all. if I had known their financial situation - I would have been gone long before they booted US players. Just like I did with WSEX, which was my favorite book for years.

                    I, along with any other smart players, would be at a top outfit, like Betafir.
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                    • Hareeba!
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                      • 07-01-06
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                      #500
                      Originally posted by todd73nj
                      Ctrl C / Ctrl V
                      In other words you are again calling me a liar.

                      I don't care about convincing YOU. You have made up your mind and just won't listen to or don't wish to believe the FACTS. You can't play at either so you just DON'T KNOW.

                      However there are many other reading this forum and this thread who might be interested in the TRUTH.

                      Once again overnight here I placed equal orders on BF and MB and woke to find $15.74 had been matched at BF but my full $1,160 stake had been taken at MB and a better price was available at MB for my unmatched BF amount (in excess of what is available at Pinnacle and elsewhere).

                      When it went in-play BF had matched just $883 on that market whereas at MB my bets alone would have accounted for almost $5k matched
                      SIMPLY NO COMPARISON
                      Last edited by Hareeba!; 08-23-11, 06:11 PM.
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                      • QQPALLADIUM
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-22-10
                        • 367

                        #501
                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                        In other words you are again calling me a liar.

                        I don't care about convincing YOU. You have made up your mind and just won't listen to or don't wish to believe the FACTS. You can't play at either so you just DON'T KNOW.

                        However there are many other reading this forum and this thread who might be interested in the TRUTH.

                        Once again overnight here I placed equal orders on BF and MB and woke to find $15.74 had been matched at BF but my full $1,160 stake had been taken at MB and a better price was available at MB for my unmatched BF amount (in excess of what is available at Pinnacle and elsewhere).

                        When it went in-play BF had matched just $883 on that market whereas at MB my bets alone would have accounted for almost $5k matched
                        SIMPLY NO COMPARISON

                        you must have gotten hosed on the price if you got matched....
                        sbr
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                        • Hareeba!
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 07-01-06
                          • 36793

                          #502
                          Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                          you must have gotten hosed on the price if you got matched....
                          If so, why didn't it get snapped up at BF?

                          (irrelevant to my point but it turned out to be the same odds as the start of the game)
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                          • the_situation
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-22-10
                            • 2735

                            #503
                            Originally posted by todd73nj
                            Ctrl C / Ctrl V



                            Not at all. if I had known their financial situation - I would have been gone long before they booted US players. Just like I did with WSEX, which was my favorite book for years.

                            I, along with any other smart players, would be at a top outfit, like Betafir.
                            Betfair charges a lot of commission and is pretty brutal for US Sports with low liquidity and prices worse than Pinny. For Euro Sports, yes it is the best but for US there is no comparison between Matchbook and BF. And also, SBR claims Matchbook is in good standing and well off financially so why would I believe you over them when they have connections in the industry?
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                            • Hareeba!
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                              • 07-01-06
                              • 36793

                              #504
                              Originally posted by the_situation
                              Betfair charges a lot of commission and is pretty brutal for US Sports with low liquidity and prices worse than Pinny. For Euro Sports, yes it is the best but for US there is no comparison between Matchbook and BF. And also, SBR claims Matchbook is in good standing and well off financially so why would I believe you over them when they have connections in the industry?
                              Todd has been calling me a liar for stating this for a few months now. So I guess you must be a liar too (as must Santo for having confirmed the numbers I posted one day).
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                              • QQPALLADIUM
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-22-10
                                • 367

                                #505
                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                Todd has been calling me a liar for stating this for a few months now. So I guess you must be a liar too (as must Santo for having confirmed the numbers I posted one day).

                                the same sbr who had no clue on the greek....
                                sbr
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
                                  • 36793

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                  the same sbr who had no clue on the greek....
                                  utterly no idea what you are on about here
                                  and is there any relevance at all to what I've been posting?
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                                  • QQPALLADIUM
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-22-10
                                    • 367

                                    #507
                                    over 7.5 +116
                                    under 7.5 -136

                                    $150 and $204...

                                    mb is the best for bases
                                    sbr
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                                    • Hareeba!
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 36793

                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                      over 7.5 +116
                                      under 7.5 -136

                                      $150 and $204...

                                      mb is the best for bases
                                      stale line idiot!

                                      show me where you can get better for the current line of 7
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                                      • QQPALLADIUM
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 01-22-10
                                        • 367

                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                        stale line idiot!

                                        show me where you can get better for the current line of 7
                                        +220 $70
                                        -248 $149

                                        oak vs nyy

                                        mb has the best lines and liquidity for overnites that has been said here before.
                                        sbr
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                                        • todd73nj
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-09-08
                                          • 824

                                          #510
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                          Todd has been calling me a liar for stating this for a few months now. So I guess you must be a liar too (as must Santo for having confirmed the numbers I posted one day).
                                          Yes.. Brutal with 100k+ traded in game on any ESPN ball game. You guys all make so much money, should post up your picks and stand behind what you say. Betfair doesnt have enough posted for you - so you must be betting huge dollar amounts.

                                          Why is it that everyone on this forum makes millions but me? Throw me a bone here!
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                                          • todd73nj
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-09-08
                                            • 824

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by the_situation

                                            Betfair charges a lot of commission and is pretty brutal for US Sports with low liquidity and prices worse than Pinny. For Euro Sports, yes it is the best but for US there is no comparison between Matchbook and BF. And also, SBR claims Matchbook is in good standing and well off financially so why would I believe you over them when they have connections in the industry?
                                            Let me know when they are an A, and can document your account in a financial institution.
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 36793

                                              #512
                                              Originally posted by todd73nj
                                              Yes.. Brutal with 100k+ traded in game on any ESPN ball game. You guys all make so much money, should post up your picks and stand behind what you say. Betfair doesnt have enough posted for you - so you must be betting huge dollar amounts.

                                              Why is it that everyone on this forum makes millions but me? Throw me a bone here!
                                              Oh, nice change of topic Todd!
                                              You know very well that all I've been arguing with you about in this thread is PRE GAME betting. Now you have lost that argument pointlessly, so drop it and move onto in-play betting. NO I'm not going to engage you in that.

                                              You have called me and others liars over this issue and a retraction and apology is overdue.
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                                              • QQPALLADIUM
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 01-22-10
                                                • 367

                                                #513
                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                Oh, nice change of topic Todd!
                                                You know very well that all I've been arguing with you about in this thread is PRE GAME betting. Now you have lost that argument pointlessly, so drop it and move onto in-play betting. NO I'm not going to engage you in that.

                                                You have called me and others liars over this issue and a retraction and apology is overdue.

                                                todd is sorry you can't figure out a simple computer request to cut and paste your trades in real time to prove mb's superior liquidity and prices
                                                sbr
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                                                • todd73nj
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-09-08
                                                  • 824

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                                  Oh, nice change of topic Todd!
                                                  You know very well that all I've been arguing with you about in this thread is PRE GAME betting. Now you have lost that argument pointlessly, so drop it and move onto in-play betting. NO I'm not going to engage you in that.

                                                  You have called me and others liars over this issue and a retraction and apology is overdue.
                                                  Its not a change of topic. But you guys keep talking liquidity is better, lines are better, blah blah. When I talk avg bet size, I use $200. When you you do its $1000. MB doesnt trade the volume you think it does - or the volume necessary for all of you guys to make the money you claim to. Thats my point. Unless you are a 70, maybe 80% winner - which we all know is impossible - think about the volume of pennies all the winners in this thread would need to trade.

                                                  But again... Watch the MMers price on Matchbook for the listed baseball games - they just sit and sit.. and no one trades.

                                                  But yet.. everyone makes thousands!
                                                  Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM


                                                  todd is sorry you can't figure out a simple computer request to cut and paste your trades in real time to prove mb's superior liquidity and prices
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                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                    • 36793

                                                    #515
                                                    Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                    But again... Watch the MMers price on Matchbook for the listed baseball games - they just sit and sit.. and no one trades.

                                                    But yet.. everyone makes thousands!
                                                    So how is it that my offers almost always get accepted?
                                                    And yet at Betfair they rarely do and when they do it tends to be only partial, like the example I posted yesterday.
                                                    You continue to call me a liar but this is FACT.
                                                    And several others have confirmed what I am saying but it doesn't fit your warped sense of reality so you won't accept it.
                                                    It was a change of subject because you started prattling on about in-play betting at BF which is something I've never challenged. In fact if you kept up with my postings elsewhere I've always said BF it the place for in-play betting.
                                                    And I don't need to hit 70% or anywhere near it so again you go prattling on about stuff you know nothing about.
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                                                    • QQPALLADIUM
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-22-10
                                                      • 367

                                                      #516
                                                      so why doesn't mb post volume totals like bf?...imagine trading on the nyse and you couldn't see the volume....
                                                      sbr
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                                                      • Hareeba!
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                        • 36793

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                                        so why doesn't mb post volume totals like bf?...imagine trading on the nyse and you couldn't see the volume....
                                                        no idea, but it doesn't change the FACTS

                                                        wish to hell they would as it would reveal Todd to be the liar he is for all to see
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                                                        • QQPALLADIUM
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-22-10
                                                          • 367

                                                          #518
                                                          maybe mb should go public like betfair....for the revenue number they can substitute a number for "whatever Hareebitch! says"....
                                                          sbr
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                                                          • todd73nj
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-09-08
                                                            • 824

                                                            #519
                                                            Originally posted by Hareeba!

                                                            no idea, but it doesn't change the FACTS

                                                            wish to hell they would as it would reveal Todd to be the liar he is for all to see
                                                            LOL. Facts. What facts?

                                                            Ill take this back to a little story from tradesports.. People would exaggerate there position that they bought because it was done in contracts. Like.. StL +10 50.0 +$40.00 or whatever.

                                                            They would simply add a "0" to the 10 to make it 100 contracts and a "0" to the profit to make it $400.. and wa-la. When you dont have to post a screen shot - you can type whatever it is you want. But the next morning - when they updated contract amounts - no one could explain why they didnt have the correct #s.

                                                            Just like this situation - no one posts screen shots of their info - they TYPE it. And its a good thing there are no volumes listed - because all the millionaires would look like fools.
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                                                            • Hareeba!
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-01-06
                                                              • 36793

                                                              #520
                                                              Originally posted by todd73nj
                                                              LOL. Facts. What facts?

                                                              Ill take this back to a little story from tradesports.. People would exaggerate there position that they bought because it was done in contracts. Like.. StL +10 50.0 +$40.00 or whatever.

                                                              They would simply add a "0" to the 10 to make it 100 contracts and a "0" to the profit to make it $400.. and wa-la. When you dont have to post a screen shot - you can type whatever it is you want. But the next morning - when they updated contract amounts - no one could explain why they didnt have the correct #s.

                                                              Just like this situation - no one posts screen shots of their info - they TYPE it. And its a good thing there are no volumes listed - because all the millionaires would look like fools.
                                                              Every number I've posted on here has been truthful and accurate.
                                                              And others have verified them and backed me up.
                                                              CEASE CALLING US ALL LIARS.
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                                                              • QQPALLADIUM
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-22-10
                                                                • 367

                                                                #521
                                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                Every number I've posted on here has been truthful and accurate.
                                                                And others have verified them and backed me up.
                                                                CEASE CALLING US ALL LIARS.
                                                                post your plays for 2 weeks in real time and prove us wrong....
                                                                sbr
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                                                                • Santo
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-08-05
                                                                  • 2957

                                                                  #522
                                                                  A lot of them likely aren't his to post.
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                                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                                    • 36793

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Originally posted by QQPALLADIUM
                                                                    post your plays for 2 weeks in real time and prove us wrong....
                                                                    What's the point, you and Todd just wouldn't believe me anyway?
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                                                                    • Call82
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-06-11
                                                                      • 726

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Hey Todd73NJ, whats that homepage for arbs that you talk about?
                                                                      Are you a stock market trader? Give the SBR Stock Market Betting Book a try! Right here in the points forum!
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                                                                      • QQPALLADIUM
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 01-22-10
                                                                        • 367

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                        What's the point, you and Todd just wouldn't believe me anyway?
                                                                        if you posted them before the game started we would...

                                                                        todd could have one one his employees take a mb screenshot every minute and then we could match up the numbers.
                                                                        sbr
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