EZStreet theft, deception and TheRx whitewashing Video (banned at TheRx)

[LegitBet]

Well done CC. Your articulation is insightful, organized and stays on point.
Good job.

[skrtelfan]

To be honest EI, I would normally side with a player in this instance. IF he truly deposited all that money in cash my mind changes a little bit. HOWEVER the botched ** deposit that was initially reported by Easystreet makes me suspect that he tried to take a shot..

They accepted 10 additional deposits after the first botched deposit!

[Counterfeit Cash]

Well done CC. Your articulation is insightful, organized and stays on point.
Good job.

Thanks, your feedback is appreciated.

[xstud]

Good post and thank you for staying away from "Low Blows". I respect your opinion.

[Justin7]

Furthermore. Numerous posters play at D rated books who have stiffed or done dishonest things to players yet those players that play at sportsbook.com or any jazz book for that matter do not feel the need to create 40 threads and they do not have people insulting other posters.

When SBR discusses disputes with most D books, the D books are usually honest. SBR and Jazette books typically agree on what happened, but disagree on how a dispute should resolve.

There are 40 threads on this dispute not because EZ stiffed a player 46k, but because they were dishonest about it.

[cassiusclay]

The player is a fraud with multiple chargebacks to his name. In my opinion that automatically disqualifies him from any 'justice' or fair settlements in disputes with books. It doesn't matter that, in this case, the deposits were cash, because his entire bankroll should be considered as stolen funds (unless and until it is made precisely clear how much he charged back, which is a topic SBR didn't come remotely close to investigating with the same focus as the book's fraud).

Players who do chargebacks are not deserving of SBR's assistance. Justin focused on the issue as if it is isolated from the chargebacks, but that presents a false picture. Anyone who does chargebacks can basically go all in with every bet, and only keep the winning accounts. The cash deposits here are meaningless, because the money was already stolen. Again, the 'correct' approach towards players who do chargebacks, in my view, is to consider their entire bankroll as stolen funds. If such players wish to prove differently, the burden of proof is on them. These type of players do not deserve any support from honest players (who do you think they're stealing from? If you were wondering, imagine a run on the bank at a book).

Conclusion. Good job by Justin for unmasking EZstreet as a fraudulent book; but that is all that was achieved here. If SBR wishes to use this as an example of assisting players, I would suggest they think again. Unless they can prove differently, they assisted a thief here; someone who had no problem stealing from honest players. And this fraudulent, no risk approach is the only reason he was able to run up positive balances at some books. SBR should have a more realistic approach towards players who do chargebacks. By not recognizing these players as a separate, preferably blacklisted, category, SBR is simply handing out an unbalanced type of justice. This may look good to the majority of posters here, but they don't realize that this fraud has his hand in their pockets as well. We can all choose to stay away from stealing books, but we all share the burden of players who do chargebacks.

but it's ok for them to take his deposit? we'll take your bad money but we won't pay you when you win?

[shari91]

Shari, Maybe you could get with WVU and compare the email address/ip address it came from.

I went to go look at that thread again after reading your post and realised that he and I both received the emails on the same date so I've created an account there to see if he has a better clue of what's going on.

Again though, I'm leaning towards the disgruntled poster theory although I admit that the timing between his and mine strikes me as odd. Maybe it's a bit naive of me but I can't figure out why anyone close to this issue would even bother to involve me in this at all. Doesn't make sense.

[MBENZ]

I went to go look at that thread again after reading your post and realised that he and I both received the emails on the same date so I've created an account there to see if he has a better clue of what's going on.

Again though, I'm leaning towards the disgruntled poster theory although I admit that the timing between his and mine strikes me as odd. Maybe it's a bit naive of me but I can't figure out why anyone close to this issue would even bother to involve me in this at all. Doesn't make sense.

Wouldn't you think Justin would have received one too?

[KGambler]

Since I've joined this site, I have not seen any few posters basically "advertise" a book the way you, EZMARVIN & SteveX seem to do...now I may be going crazy or something, who knows, but it just seems all too convenient that everytime someone brings up EZ, you all bum-rush the topic to mention fast payouts (free on Tuesdays) and solid CS. Could be just me though.

I have never seen this behavior either. It is just so crude and obvious. Can shills really be this stupid? Maybe they were doing it as a way to wind up Cory? To constantly come into a thread where someone is having a dispute with a book and talk like a shill (GREAT BOOK! FAST PAYOUTS! FANTASTIC BONUSES! BEST CS IN THE BUSINESS! REMEMBER, PAYOUTS ARE FREE ON TUESDAY!) is very low. Of couse, now that their classless actions have been met with derision, they want to appeal to common decency. ******* slimy scumbags...

I would like to add a couple of more things... First, they kept talking about receiving fast payouts from easystreetsports.com. Every single day they reported receiving a four figure check... Well, after a while it became obvious that they were just flat out lying. There is no way they were getting checks every single day. Second, they used to immediately nominate each other's posts and also immediately reply to each other. When someone called them out on this, it suddenly stopped and hasn't happened again.

If I had to guess, I don't think xstud is a shill in the traditional sense. He must have an affiliate deal or some other business relationship with easystreetsports.com

Easy Street Sports definitely has shills/ghosts active here. Just look at the April payout thread... Some clown (firedawg) reports payouts from 3 books, one of which is Easy Street Sports. The problem? One of the books (lazerwager) he reported a payout from is closed! He just so happens to be another guy trying to make this issue about Cory's character.

[shari91]

Wouldn't you think Justin would have received one too?

You'd think so. Or at least someone else higher up in SBR. Why anyone would think to talk to me about this whole thing, other than asking my opinion, I have no clue.

That's why I'm thinking this is just a crummy joke. If that Peeps thread hadn't have been linked here, I never would have said anything at all as I'd discussed it with Lou last week and I was reassured after our conversation. At this point, the dates are the only thing I find weird but it just could be one of those sheer coincidences that happen from time to time.

[Dark Horse]

but it's ok for them to take his deposit? we'll take your bad money but we won't pay you when you win?

More like: we don't want your business, but if you slipped through the cracks all you'll ever get back is your deposit, because you're a known thief.

Preferably such cheating players are blacklisted in the same way that cheating books are blacklisted. The ********** issue was sidestepped here, because it didn't occur in this instance. I tried to point out that that is a very convenient and oversimplified approach, because the player could have build his entire BR doing chargebacks. If this thread has taught me anything it is that the industry, as a whole, needs to have a better prevention mechanism in place.

[HedgeHog]

When SBR discusses disputes with most D books, the D books are usually honest. SBR and Jazette books typically agree on what happened, but disagree on how a dispute should resolve.

There are 40 threads on this dispute not because EZ stiffed a player 46k, but because they were dishonest about it.

Not sure I see the relevance of an honest crook vs a dishonest one. A recent Jazette book stole based on a bogus "syndicate play" claim, which they refused to substantiate, and this is somehow more honorable than what EZ did? I see them as equally offensive.

[Justin7]

Not sure I see the relevance of an honest crook vs a dishonest one. A recent Jazette book stole based on a bogus "syndicate play" claim, which they refused to substantiate, and this is somehow more honorable than what EZ did? I see them as equally offensive.

I don't think I was involved in that dispute, so I cannot comment.

In the other recent Jazette disputes I have handled, they have been truthful in the facts, even if I disagreed with the handling. I say recent because I handle over 1000 claims a year, and quickly forget the older ones.

[Doug]

Time to give EZ the "F+" rating it deserves....

[Justin7]

Time to give EZ the "F+" rating it deserves....

To be fair, this is the only post-up complaint I know about. A rating of F would suggest they pay no one, and all other players have been paid.

[KGambler]

Just a small sampling of xstud's lies and blatant shilling...


Cory: now easystreet.com is asking me to fly to costa rica and take a lie detector test.

If they pay for the ticket why not?

Does anyone have a link to the cheating software cory used?

A+ Book. Same day payouts. Great Cash Bonuses. No better street to be on than EASYSTREET!

In response to EZMarvin's truly absurd lie that they have escrowed $46K with Shilheim:

Fantastic to see EasyStreet doing such a wonderful thing and showing that they do indeed have the funds to pay individuals who legitimately win at their book! Nice Job Marvin and Mr. Powers!

I look forward to more fantastic things from this book!

He seems really concerned with the effect negative publicity is having on his client/employer. In fact, it sounds like it is hitting him right in the wallet:

After receiving an infraction for a previous post about this issue I will keep this reply clear and simple.

If you have no intention of beating a book by following its T&C's then you should not cry to a board and expect to get paid. To go through an entire dispute and have a book pay you and THEN charge back the initial deposit is no better than actions by the worst books (Cascade, Bet911 and Parlaymakers..etc.) We all have had problems with books and some are minor and some are major but when you take freeshot after freeshot after a sportsbook and then come and cry to the forums EVENTUALLY it will catch up to you.


In regards to flying to Costa Rica, I am not sure about anyone else but if I beat a game straight up and the only thing that prevented me from collecting 46k was going and showing my play in a secure environment and have everything paid for... why not do it? If you have to ask "Why?" well its clear from your past that you have not been an honest player and frankly the fact that the book is even giving you this chance should be applauded.


The amount of money you have potentially cost EZ due to this negative publicity is a crime all by itself.

He seems to know an awful alot about this business, from the OTHER side of the counter.

Not True.

You can charge back ANY vendor that accepts ANY vc,**,amex...etc. Sure the money is already collected HOWEVER the cost to the sportsbook far outweighs that few hundred dollars due to the fact it may lead to losing a processor. Not to mention if you charge back with **/** whatever name you use is perma-blacklisted.

People need to remember that the book does not run to ** or ** and pick up money.. the processor does. IF a ********** occurs that is one less phillipino or costa rican who can work for the processor.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...xperience.html

I just made a deposit and it was credited within 10 mins to my account. It was by ********* and I have had to chase after A+ books before to credit the bonus.

This book could possibly rival Pinny down the road, excellent customer service. Presence on SBR. Fantastic management and a wide range of betting options.

No place is quite as EZ for me as Easystreet!

As long as you are not a shot taker they make you feel special! Thanks Mr. Powers!

EasyStreet will pay all winners who follow T&C's of the sportsbook obviously. No other place will treat you with the respect and dignity that EZ does.

They even offered you a free trip to Costa Rica!

IF you legitimately beat EasyStreet Mr. Powers will make sure you get paid very promptly!

- Same DAY payouts!
- Wide Betting Options!
- Weekly Newsletter with the EZ Babes!
- Nobody makes things easier than EZ!

Here he is practically begging for the negative threads to stop.

Can I get the max on me not being in Costa Rica? IF I provide proof will you stop all negative threads about EasyStreet?

People need to realize that Pokerplayer is jaded because he tried to cheat a book and got caught. Sure they made a mistake by giving you a bonus before you sent funds but then you take a shot!

This book continually pays players who do not cheat them. If you scam, charge back or are otherwise a shady person just stay away from online betting as your experiences will be horrible.

Aside from the cory1111 scammer are any other complaints out there? Has anyone been stiffed? Easystreet is actually having a videopoker contest giving away possibly MORE than 46k. Is this what a broke book does? I think not!

Easystreet is where winners get paid and winners play! Fast Payouts and Excellent customer service!

Have either of you ever played at Easystreet? Have you been stiffed? Of course the answer is NO to both. Neither of you can afford the 200 bucks it costs to deposit into a book to become a PRO.

Look at the monthly payout threads and face the FACTS. Easystreet pays!

The only people that seem to disagree and have issues with this are known scammers (pokerplayer and cory1111) both scamming has been documented and confirmed. You call myself a shill because I stick up for a book? Because players like cory make it damn near impossible to deposit into places today? Because 1 poster rides the nuts of Mr. Powers and creates 10 threads about an issue where he was clearly taking a shot?

I would like to hear from 1 other person who can confirm being stiffed by this book. I would also like to hear from 1 other person who currently has a complaint against this book. I am sure I already know the answer to that. NOBODY.

Bottom Line: If you are not playing at Easystreet you are missing out on great bonuses, fantastic costumer service and free payouts!

Please provide proof. Easystreet is having a videopoker contest where the payout could meet or exceed 46k. Is that something a broke book does?

Just a little proof would be nice because anyone can seem to type that Mr. Powers is "up to the same old shit" unless you have proof and are a victim then clearly you are just typing more false accusations. Bottom line is if you cheat books it will come back to haunt you.

Excellent job Marvin. I look forward to this contest and hope that I will be someone considered for this great offer from a fantastic book!

Shouldn't you go spread some more inaccuracies and lies about a great book like Easystreet instead of counting my posts? Slamming a great book is no better than being a ********** artist like cory.

-xstud

No legitimate poster would ever be this effusive about a shit book like easystreetsports.com. No human being could be so illogical in his conclusions ("they even offered him a free trip to Costs Rica!"). No one is this gullible. He holds Cory to the highest standards when it comes to accuracy, but he studiously ignores the fact that Easy Street Sports has been caught in numerous material lies, all designed to mislead the forum and derail the investigation.

xstud, what is your handle at theRX? Answering this question could go a long way towards clearing up your relationship with the thieves at easystreetsports.com and their shills at theRX.

[Scooter]

Xstud/steveX is aleX powers, EZ's manager.

[boatboatboat]

EZ will be responding to Cory directly in a thread at the RX within the next few hours.

[Dunderfisk]

Such a great work. F for these liars.

[Dunderfisk]

Easythief?

[empty cookie jar]

you dang ole boobs are going to be hartbrakin if cory gets paid or prove he was lying, you won't have nothing left to live for

[boatboatboat]

Good point.

My plan once this is over is to read all of your post and learn them by heart.

[empty cookie jar]

some of you are like talking to a dang ole brick wall

[Scooter]

Cory should not be asked to take a polygraph. This provides an out for EasyStreet -
"The polygraph was inconclusive. We asked Cory if we could ask further questions and he refused. His failure to let us continue questioning him convinces us that he is a liar and a cheat and we will not pay him".

Polygraphs are junk science.
They are unreliable and the interpretation depends on the operator.

[shari91]

Cory should not be asked to take a polygraph. This provides an out for EasyStreet - "The polygraph was inconclusive. We asked Cory if we could ask further questions and he refused. His failure to let us continue questioning him convinces us that he is a liar and a cheat and we will not pay him". Polygraphs are junk science. They are unreliable and the interpretation depends on the operator.

I 100% agree but Cory himself has now proposed parameters for the polygraph. May just be an act of desperation on his part but he's opened himself up to it if Easy Street agrees to his terms. Guess we'll find out in an hour or so.

[chemicalbrother]

when KGambler goes at someone's throat, he goes hard.

[antifoil]

cory should agree to take a poly when wilheim agrees to take one regarding his bias in the matter.

[skrtelfan]

What justification do these morons even have for demanding he take a polygraph? The extent of their arguments at this point are that a 1 in 61 royal rate, 3 in 22,000 hands, is so "statistically impossible" he must have rigged the software, or that he used a bot. The only advantage to a bot would be to complete the rollover faster if he was bonus hustling but he played well past the rollover requirement.

[xstud]

Kgambler, I think you may have OCD. Also may suffer from some paranoia. I mean no offense by that. But you continue to insist that I am employed by a book. You caught me red handed. I signed up years before Easystreet was ever created. I also sat on the edge of my seat waiting to pounce at a time like this. Congratulations! I have been exposed. I am wilhelm and Alex Powers.

I would love to have enough free time to search through every single post and nitpick little sentences and phrases but unfortunately I just have so many other better things to do. You win.

Bottom line the book pays people. The person who did not get paid is a known stiff. He has committed fraud against books. Justin even said Easystreet has NO OTHER complaints. So if you scam books Easystreet is obviously not for you.

[TexansFan]

xstud, you're clueless if you think the people running ESS haven't stiffed others in the past. Oh wait, why should the past matter, right?

[xstud]

Texans, who have they stiffed aside from the stiff in question? If you can provide that insight then I give up and will cease posting in these threads. It's not like any of it accomplishes anything anyways. Thanks in advance.

[Justin7]

xstud, you're clueless if you think the people running ESS haven't stiffed others in the past. Oh wait, why should the past matter, right?

I haven't seen any other complaints against them. Until I do, I would accept xstud's statement as true.

[Extra Innings]

Burden of proof....has anyone formally responded to Justin's video from either therx or Ez?

[KGambler]

Kgambler, I think you may have OCD. Also may suffer from some paranoia. I mean no offense by that. But you continue to insist that I am employed by a book. You caught me red handed. I signed up years before Easystreet was ever created. I also sat on the edge of my seat waiting to pounce at a time like this. Congratulations! I have been exposed. I am wilhelm and Alex Powers.

I would love to have enough free time to search through every single post and nitpick little sentences and phrases but unfortunately I just have so many other better things to do. You win.

Bottom line the book pays people. The person who did not get paid is a known stiff. He has committed fraud against books. Justin even said Easystreet has NO OTHER complaints. So if you scam books Easystreet is obviously not for you.

I already said that I doubt you are directly employed by the book, although it is certainly possible. I guess you have never heard of an "affiliate deal" though. It's very clear you are not just come random customer.

What is your name over at theRX? I am certain that would help to clarify your connections to easystreetsports.com

[xstud]

I don't have a posting account at that site. The only other gambling forums I belong to are gamelive and casinomeister.

I obviously have visited it just never registered