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  • katstale
    SBR MVP
    • 02-07-07
    • 3924

    #106
    I know of a bet that was lost by them in the last 2 days. Pinny has been running rough the last 2 days and has been hanging on confirm page frequently. player had the transaction # etc and Pinny couldn't find it. He just bet it again and at better odds. No way to win a dispute with Pinny. if u win you lose that battle.
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    • Santo
      SBR MVP
      • 09-08-05
      • 2957

      #107
      The issue may well be genuine, but do you want to tell us how you are betting there when you have publicly stated (more than once) they closed your account?
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      • JohnnyC
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-27-09
        • 504

        #108
        ban OP
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        • zebras99
          SBR Sharp
          • 07-21-10
          • 392

          #109
          Never had any problems with pinnacle. That's probably the only bookie that I feel 100% secure regarding my winnings.
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          • protein
            SBR MVP
            • 12-20-09
            • 1231

            #110
            Pinny is solid. No problems ever with them from my experience.
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            • Hareeba!
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 07-01-06
              • 37279

              #111
              Originally posted by protein
              Pinny is solid. No problems ever with them from my experience.
              their system does frequently report errors when confirming bets though
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              • HeeeHAWWWW
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-13-08
                • 5487

                #112
                OP has amazingly bad luck with books......
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                • BET THE HOOK
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-16-09
                  • 1947

                  #113
                  Maybe its not the books????
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                  • Justin7
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-31-06
                    • 8577

                    #114
                    I actually had a winning 6k wager lost there a week ago. I assume that I screwed up the confirmation. Sadly, I'm resorting to screen-shots everywhere now.
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                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-13-08
                      • 5487

                      #115
                      Hoversnap is nice: http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm

                      Tiny little utility, any time you hit printscreen it dumps a screenshot to disk.
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                      • katstale
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-07-07
                        • 3924

                        #116
                        Sometimes you get the Fatal Error message on a confirmation. As I said, player had the transaction # (not a screen shot) and Pinny would not admit taking the bet. Best to routine check all wagers every hour or 2 before game time if you have time. I am paranoid, so i often check 15 minutes prior to action to be sure its down.
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                        • King_Suckerman
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-12-09
                          • 945

                          #117
                          never any problems for me. other than close to kick off when the lines move quick and you keep being told its changed and to go back to the menu
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                          • Winner_13
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-04-10
                            • 1744

                            #118
                            my friend had ufc bets "lost' he said he confirmed it.
                            the money was deducted from his account.

                            and he rooted the ufc bets in and after he went on to check and it wasnt there
                            .

                            .they emailed saying he didnt confirm it properly and clicked back
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                            • Chuck Sims
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-29-05
                              • 3072

                              #119
                              Justin7, Did you check how much would it cost to have a computer expert fish that bet out of your computer?
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                              • moonbeam
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-02-07
                                • 1496

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                I actually had a winning 6k wager lost there a week ago. I assume that I screwed up the confirmation. Sadly, I'm resorting to screen-shots everywhere now.
                                Pinnacles IT Department told me they have reviewed my logs for 29 September and find no Total wager was sent in.

                                Ok, maybe it´s my fault.
                                Maybe I really forgot to confirm this bet. Things like this can happen
                                But as a semi-professional player I would say the probability of this is below 0.1%

                                this issue really drives me crazy

                                P.S I only lose 600
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                                • trixtrix
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 04-13-06
                                  • 1897

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                  I actually had a winning 6k wager lost there a week ago. I assume that I screwed up the confirmation. Sadly, I'm resorting to screen-shots everywhere now.
                                  this has happened at least 3x at betonline for me, i can only assume i clicked the mistaken wager since i have no screenshot proof and even though i do take screenshots intermittenly (when i'm not on my laptop), these mistakes cost me in low 5 digits
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                                  • moonbeam
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-02-07
                                    • 1496

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by katstale
                                    I know of a bet that was lost by them in the last 2 days. Pinny has been running rough the last 2 days and has been hanging on confirm page frequently. player had the transaction # etc and Pinny couldn't find it. He just bet it again and at better odds. No way to win a dispute with Pinny. if u win you lose that battle.
                                    Pinnacle is great, but something is wrong with them
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                                    • paste_me
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-11-09
                                      • 1832

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                      I actually had a winning 6k wager lost there a week ago. I assume that I screwed up the confirmation. Sadly, I'm resorting to screen-shots everywhere now.
                                      I was under the impression that you live in the US? Just curious
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                                      • protein
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-20-09
                                        • 1231

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                        their system does frequently report errors when confirming bets though
                                        True. That kind of feels normal with them
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                                        • lukahh
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 04-08-10
                                          • 941

                                          #125
                                          i think we've all been there.
                                          it's only winning wagers that "disappear". or we simply don't notice losing wagers disappear?

                                          - does anyone recall having lost wager "disappear in the air"?
                                          - is there any documented instance of a book "making bet disappear" - ie. has anyone ever submitted screenshot of wager to force the book to pay? i recall one such instance from forum (bet365), but apparently it was a player doctoring the screenshot.

                                          anyone?
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                                          • Ruifgalmeida
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-23-08
                                            • 2024

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by moonbeam

                                            Pinnacle is great, but something is wrong with them
                                            werent you limit at Pinnacle for 0.01 a Bet, make up your mind moonbeam, in some tread you say you are ban from pinny others you already say that pinny is great.
                                            Pinnacle is the must correct bookie, they wouldnt do nothing wrong to players
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 37279

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by lukahh
                                              i think we've all been there.
                                              it's only winning wagers that "disappear". or we simply don't notice losing wagers disappear?

                                              - does anyone recall having lost wager "disappear in the air"?
                                              - is there any documented instance of a book "making bet disappear" - ie. has anyone ever submitted screenshot of wager to force the book to pay? i recall one such instance from forum (bet365), but apparently it was a player doctoring the screenshot.

                                              anyone?
                                              When doing my weekly reconciliation of bookie accounts I have from time to time discovered totally missing bets both winning and losing and simply put it down to my error.

                                              I've also found duplicated bets which I steadfastly maintain are system rather than my error but not ever been in a position to prove it although I have actually seen it occur through no more than a screen refresh and on that occasion I contacted the bookie immediately and had him void it.

                                              Although I do take screenshots almost all the time now I've never had an instance of needing to submit one to a bookie to prove a missing bet. It will be interesting should it ever occur to see if the bookie accepts it or accuses me of fraudulent manipulation.
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                                              • LVHerbie
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-15-05
                                                • 6344

                                                #128
                                                VIP/Nine sends an email confirmation of all your bets you placed there... Can't see why more books don't do this, especially books the quality of pinnacle, as it would pretty much eliminate all questions on if the bet was placed or not...
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                                                • davidchong
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-10-06
                                                  • 1806

                                                  #129
                                                  will be a good idea, all books should do this

                                                  Originally posted by LVHerbie
                                                  VIP/Nine sends an email confirmation of all your bets you placed there... Can't see why more books don't do this, especially books the quality of pinnacle, as it would pretty much eliminate all questions on if the bet was placed or not...
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                                                  • dealer wins
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-03-09
                                                    • 816

                                                    #130
                                                    Last Saturday I had a £2500 wager on Chelsea (which Im 99.9% sure I placed) which was not ever placed. It would have lost so I am certainly not complaining!! Pretty sure I confirmed it though but I may not have.
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                                                    • moonbeam
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-02-07
                                                      • 1496

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by dealer wins
                                                      Last Saturday I had a £2500 wager on Chelsea (which Im 99.9% sure I placed) which was not ever placed. It would have lost so I am certainly not complaining!! Pretty sure I confirmed it though but I may not have.
                                                      Thanks for your reply dealer wins.
                                                      It´s interesting to hear that this failure obviously has appeared several times
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                                                      • LMAOFISH
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 03-08-07
                                                        • 281

                                                        #132
                                                        This is definitely strange. I've made about 0984509850985 bets at pinnacle over the last 4 years and have never had this happen.
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                                                        • hanziman
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-11-10
                                                          • 692

                                                          #133
                                                          Only strange thing I noticed a few times when placing a bet there is the confirm wager page is just blank and I have to go back and try it again. Seems like that only happens when its a really busy night.
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                                                          • lukahh
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 04-08-10
                                                            • 941

                                                            #134
                                                            i think any disappearing wager problem at normal books is due to system/internet issues.

                                                            the known books where manual tampering (on other issues) with player's funds have been reported, are shady outfits.
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                                                            • moonbeam
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-02-07
                                                              • 1496

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by LMAOFISH
                                                              This is definitely strange. I've made about 0984509850985 bets at pinnacle over the last 4 years and have never had this happen.
                                                              I agree with this LMAOFISH.
                                                              Ì´ve also made 14890473829 bets in the last 10 years with every book around the world and have never had this happen.
                                                              Pinnacle was the premiere
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                                                              • Hareeba!
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 07-01-06
                                                                • 37279

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by moonbeam
                                                                I agree with this LMAOFISH.
                                                                Ì´ve also made 14890473829 bets in the last 10 years with every book around the world and have never had this happen.
                                                                Pinnacle was the premiere
                                                                Seems to me that there have been several people believe they've made bets there which have vanished (including myself) but so far nobody has come up with any evidence in the form of a screenshot to prove it?

                                                                I think we must give Pinnacle the benefit of any doubt at this stage.

                                                                I suspect that on the last upgrade of their software the submit and return buttons were switched from R to L and vice versa? I'm sure I fell for that a couple of times.
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                                                                • pjesnik24
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-01-05
                                                                  • 1286

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by moonbeam
                                                                  I agree with this LMAOFISH.
                                                                  Ì´ve also made 14890473829 bets in the last 10 years with every book around the world and have never had this happen.
                                                                  Pinnacle was the premiere
                                                                  it happened to me at betphoenix few times but, to be honest, for losing and for winning bets same.
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                                                                  • moonbeam
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-02-07
                                                                    • 1496

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                    Seems to me that there have been several people believe they've made bets there which have vanished (including myself) but so far nobody has come up with any evidence in the form of a screenshot to prove it?

                                                                    I think we must give Pinnacle the benefit of any doubt at this stage.
                                                                    I really doubt about myself in this case Hareeba.
                                                                    If this were a live bet and you are in a hurry, ok, but this wasn´t a live bet.
                                                                    I´m following your advice now to make a screenshot for every bet I placed at Pinnicle
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                                                                    • moonbeam
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-02-07
                                                                      • 1496

                                                                      #139
                                                                      I don´t give a shit about all those SBR Ratings

                                                                      the biggest scam books rated A here at SBR while good books are C or D rated.

                                                                      SBR is only an advertising company
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                                                                      • socalaaron
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 07-22-09
                                                                        • 200

                                                                        #140
                                                                        So what C/D books do you recommend?
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