Canbet Sportsbook payout issues update - Canbet Director comments..

[shari91]

PEOPLE OWED IN THIS THREAD

Please help to spread the word at other forums. "Unsure" next to your name or if the amount is bolded means I know you're owed but you havent said exactly how much so please let me know. If you can't post for some reason or wish to discuss something privately, please write me at sbr.shari@gmail.com. If you live in Australia or London (or close enough to travel there) and are willing to be interviewed on camera, please write McDonald.Alex@abc.net.au


1. Yuretz: 4850 EUR

2. LN95994: 1400 EUR

3. diter: 195 EUR

4. atasway: over $5000

5. saltare33: 2900 EUR

6. stolarzz: 1000 GBP

7. Lodo: 730.81 ?

8. intergagne: 1425-1500 EUR

9. bancoricardo: 4,330 EUR

10. brockerly11: 2,711 GBP

11. the unheardof: 1,294 GBP

12. Sensible1: 1838.97 GBP

13. endtoend: 970.75 GBP

14. BIGB21: unsure

15. kholoshian: 532.04 GBP

16. Zdenaaa: $450 USD

17. tristan727: 6000 GBP

18. fidelio: similar to this ^^^

19. dirtdog52658: $1924 CAD

20. Tommyarmouriii: 4,878 GBP

21: Maziolena: 10,686 EUR

22. MiloRambaldi: $3,004 CAD

23. MichelleV: $9560.25

24. charbish: unsure

removed

26. Julian495: unsure

27: mhodge24: 127 GBP

28. mart sinc: 2.5k

29: beachlover5: 2,600 GBP

30. FENDER1: unsure

31. Fred87: 650 EUR

32. smiffywhu: 4.3k

33. wpet99: 4,783 GBP

34. Krashman: $1545.30 USD

35. Joker10: 3100 EUR

36. Patryk: 4,897 EUR

37. hlorenz81: 2,245.80 EUR

38. delneri: $4,689 USD

39. Rikki: 560.06 GBP

40. benashey79: 1026 GBP

41. vladimir0v: $4,850 USD

42. Aitch: 3k

43. TG104: unsure

44. rogerh: 291 GBP

45. fraud-canbet: 4,000 GBP

46. GuybrushT: 12,000 EUR

47. RyDLloyd: 3,254.77 GBP

48. CunningStutns: 5,060 GBP

49. simply: 10,400 EUR

50. tomallen123: 570 GBP

51. panki: 5,000 GBP

52. oxo: 725.99 GBP

53. janetf8: 5,033.40 GBP

54. AS19: 6,500 GBP

55. lockstock777: 1,651 GBP

56. qinling: 443.42 EUR

57. VIRTUAL DAVE: 4,500 GBP

58. Pleased to Michu: 1,023.50 GBP

59. pitrs: 2,730 GBP

60. WesternWolf: 6,300 GBP

61. Namechanger: 1,385 GBP

62. aroberts77: 1,327.50 GBP

63. Peniosz: 6,100 GBP

64. Jor-El: 600 GBP

65. TARUN: 3,692 EUR

66. karli87: 2,200 EUR

67. smallplayer: 3,508 GBP

68. King_Suckerman: 2,460 GBP

69. SpiderBoy: $1380.93

70. rolandd86: $2,757.49 USD

71. Removed

72. barcir: 405.38 EUR

73. paybk99: $4,960.80

74. superhands27: 3,400 GBP

75. hatke: 1,810 EUR

76. nelon: 4,900 EUR

77. etelna: 4,638 EUR

78. jenjoh: 465.09 EUR

79. icestorm: 285 GBP

80. pareto12: 2211.15 GBP

81. marinemonk: 1,140 GBP

82. Halifax: $4,960

83. kensei12: unsure

84: lolly22: 1424 GBP

85. amali83: 477.96 EUR

86. ghipuca: $280.16 USD

87. Vilmer: 558 GBP

88. whuscott: 322.50 GBP

89. NaidenMB: 2,212.39 EUR

90. NaidenMB's friend Roya: 1,346.52 EUR

91. callirye: 1,137 GBP

92. coronalime: 400 GBP

93. stoffnilsson: 499.46 GBP

94. samuelson: 10,000 GBP

95. DenverLewis: 1,500 GBP

96. bigmiky: 700 GBP

97. Roaldos: 960 EUR

98. avee: 1,800 GBP

99. wailoktam: $7,368.67 USD

100. lolo72: 1,228.85 EUR

101. Greekvik: $558 USD

102. cabbo: 729 GBP

103. sampou: 3,676.90 EUR

104: edsisto: 797.18 GBP

105. leeboo: 540 GBP

106. duncanbruce93: 1,867.75 GBP

107. marsima: $750 USD

108: Hendrik: 1,436.26 EUR

109. poncco: 500 EUR

110. Tomislav K: 5,455.10 EUR

111. Kackey: 2,007.36 GBP

112. BETTIX: 560

113. CM1979: 1,607.60 EUR

114. matcyklop: 3,907.83 EUR

115. skunkbentley: 877.44 GBP

116. Philbrix: 1,773 GBP

117. linkatine: 1,298 GBP

118. Arinosa: $2020.19 AUD

119. juhka: 3,377.69 EUR

120. LEONIDAS79: 1,505 EUR

121. grimoopnorth: 3,269 GBP

122. prema09: 748 EUR

123. MLZ3211: 2523 GBP

124. snoooze: 221.33 GBP

125. mewerik07: 1,545 EUR

126. mramor: 1,060 EUR

127. JayZ: 132.61 GBP

128. mistaya: 1,096.50 GBP

129. egypt1312: 8,100 EUR

130. Shiva: 3,738.49 GBP

131. StickyIcky: 2,500 GBP

132. victoria: 3,000 EUR

133. andrei: 2,694 EUR

134. dnl: 900 EUR

135. TomB121: 1,600 GBP

136. bojidardimov: 2,655 EUR

137. Kulfono: $3,502.08

138. G - 5,000 EUR

139. ggplayer333: 2,800 GBP

140. James: 2,302 GBP

141. alexcarroll: 3,820 GBP

142. nicwelsh: 3,160.56 GBP

143. RoepStoep: 2,700 EUR

144. adam7dalby: 716 GBP

145. chriswood: 780 GBP

146. eeewqaewa: 2,872.70 EUR

147. lelicek: 344 EUR

148. atasway: $5,896.03 AUD

149. diondublin: 559.35 GBP

150. Kaiaiaia: 1,266.88 EUR

151. Lodo: 730.81 EUR

152. Ogurr: 462.23 EUR

153. janbanan: $1,424

154. ahibbo12: 760 GBP

155. kmy1: 3,538.98 GBP

156. countdacash: 4,934 GBP

157. Latexi77: 5,425 EUR

158. mate: 3,381.56 EUR

159. jlin: 939.90 GBP

160. Ascot_Ed: 2,657 GBP

161. sukre111: 1,609.23 EUR

162. Claret1985: 3,688.50 GBP

163. juxtapose: 2,836.65 GBP

164. chrisc156: 1393.50 GBP

165. vlindqvi75: 1,143.94 EUR

166. dwc777: 1,160.60 GBP

167. samika: 2,120 EUR

168. eddie701: 2,700 EUR

169. Jusben: 1,812.75 GBP

170. apower: 1,300 GBP

171. VOLIAS1979: 434 EUR

172. intergagne: 1,525 EUR

173. AceRothsteinCL: 807 GBP

174. Mauro77: 1,616 EUR

175. scoundrels: 4,895 GBP

176. gianted: 1,527 EUR

177. szipszil: 1,123 EUR

178. zochris: 1,600 EUR

179. zochris' friend: 2,900 EUR

180. jone: 6,472.18 EUR

181. Sliphod: 1,172.25 GBP

182. mermers: 2,185 GBP

183. fcbarca42: 9,724.84 EUR

184. vaidqs: 786.79 EUR

185. lcasey: 3,280 GBP

186. alexwooty: 2,078.53 GBP

187. emjayee100: 2,231 GBP

188. Ahab: 637.50 GBP

189. davidk8445: 886 GBP

190. canbet2014: 2,627.01 GBP

191. Vanja: 1,810 EUR

192. antt: 5,200 EUR

193. mikey47: 1,094.75

194. kayjameslee: 911.79 GBP

195. koulkos: 5,056.95 EUR

196. fawcett64_2: 375.50 GBP

197. ryanstevo86: 1,549 GBP

198. mxx123: $1,017 AUD

199. gmatos: $421.88 USD

200. Aron genardini: $1,817 AUD

201. remas77: 481.84 EUR

202. goonerash: 1,139 GBP

203. WBAGE1985: 2,330.85 GBP

204. DoctorGonzo: 1,535.00 GBP

205. Jack JJ: 1,301 GBP

206. CJUK: 630 GBP

207. martinims: 560 GBP

208. hu-man: $1,130.45 USD

209. pawpl: 1,792.60 EUR

210. bbets365: $2,413 USD

211. Veggie19: 2,886.01 GBP

212. barba: 1,025.58 EUR

213. tedaldo: 1,380.28 GBP

214. Damir: $1,050 USD

215. BorisHankyPanky: 2,472.67 GBP

216. Jay: $510 USD

217. Sanya: 850 EUR

218. michal ciesla: $9,000 USD

219. 121212: 500 GBP

220. sarahlindley: 519.60 GBP

221. plainjane: 430 GBP

222. butterfly: 377.13 GBP

223. mdinky: 467 GBP

224. ollieg: 1,208.64 GBP

225. swaz1983: 246 GBP

226. hakrisa: 1,350 EUR

227. dildovics: 1,321 EUR

228. gellertoth888: 1,472 EUR

229. Swedish1: 551.54 EUR

230. gmbibo: 656.11 EUR

231. dembo100: 1,545 GBP

232. inz0mniac: 1,591 GBP

233. Daniela: 5,370 EUR

234. Ivan: 2,190.49 EUR

235. Ivan's friend: 990.31 EUR

236. Guppyboy: 2,742.92 GBP

237. James: 873.93 GBP

238. David: 200 EUR

239. Tamas: 1,968.20 EUr

240. MoneyMike: 609 GBP

241. xutosproar: 2,000 EUR

242. mjdero: $109 CAD

243. chilavert81: 1,355.72 EUR

244. gugarjim 1,168 EUR

245. damo10: 1,421 GBP

246. Lisa $207.50 USD

247.. mobo500: 1,400 GBP

[shari91]

Total amount owed solely in this thread: 485,218 GBP or $899,701 AUD

[chachi]

well done Shari, go get'em tiger ...

[Cockey]

Hey everyone. I just joined and I am owed $1335 USD since November 27

Accountno. 1163398

[ste_unit]

Add me to the list too, please.

Account 1109020

2,280.62 GBP

Been waiting since about September 2013.

[ms1988]

EDIT: woops, just checked my messages

[mojobullfrog]

MS - I sent you a PM with a contact email on Monday. Happy to discuss, but you will need to inform me of your name and media organisation first.

[lcasey]

a lot of sense in this message , keep up the good work everybody

[warez22]

Add me to the list please:

Account Number: 1027925 - owed £148 ish for 2 + months.

Thank you.

[mojobullfrog]

A familiar tale of woe. Similar to so many I have come across over the past 6 months:

http://www.ben.me/canbet_sports_bookmakers_UK_ltd.php

[mojobullfrog]

Canbet website is no longer redirecting users to the contact page for its Indian parent company Delta. Just its old shell. So you can access some of your old favourites like: Terms & Conditions, Help & Rules, plus the Disclaimer section where it states:

"Canbet holds a licence to offer an Internet betting service by the Government of the United Kingdom. In offering this service, Canbet will at all times comply with applicable laws in the United Kingdom.

Further, Canbet accepts no responsibility under the law in any jurisdiction other than the United Kingdom."

[Uruguay]

Hello all,

My Canbet account number: 1016340

I am owed a total of 1714.73 EUR (all from sports betting).


I am really impressed with the collective effort, specially from Shari. I would also be willing to join any legal action.

[countdacash]

The amount just listed on here is huge. This is all the more reason for the GC to come clean about exactly what they were told regarding liabilities and the auditors view that assets covered liabilities. If the auditors did not understand the full scale of liabilities then surely they are culpable as well. If they were wilfully misled by Lord & co. then this is a serious offence under company law. What gets me almost as much as Canbet rogue behaviour is the arse covering by the GC who are basically obstructing us getting to the bottom of what happened to cover their own incompetence and lack of timely action.

Has anyone who had an FoI request turned down took it any further? There are appeal routes via e.g. the Information Commissioner in the UK to deal with this kind of bogus rejection of valid FoI requests?

[countdacash]

A familiar tale of woe. Similar to so many I have come across over the past 6 months:

http://www.ben.me/canbet_sports_bookmakers_UK_ltd.php

Deja vu for me that!

[the unheardof]

Has anyone who had an FoI request turned down took it any further? There are appeal routes via e.g. the Information Commissioner in the UK to deal with this kind of bogus rejection of valid FoI requests?

I went and wrote to my local MP. David Smith is trying to appeal after being turned down and Marcus Dagnall has submitted a request also.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/search/canbet/all

[RyDLloyd]

I had a FOI turned down and am going through the process of referral to the ombudsman with the support of my MP David Rutley

[pangasius]

Hi, please add me to the list.
Account Nr.: 1119307
Amount owed: €106.25

thx

[the unheardof]

Gambling Commissions latest statement: http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk..._response.aspx

[shari91]

Gambling Commissions latest statement: http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk..._response.aspx

Absolute crock of shieeet

[abhi]

Absolute crock of shieeet

GC hiding the truth...

[VIRTUAL DAVE]

cover up

here in the uk we have a long history of governmental and police cover ups. hillsborough and the birmingham six are ones that spring to mind. the list is endless. when the s..t hits the fan and there found out to be hopelessly inept and have made horrible misjudgements they try and protect there own positions. if theyve seen the independent audits where has the money gone? that crock of shit about technical problems and how long manual withdrawals were taking. a bank transfer takes 30 seconds. theyve been mugged of by a couple of aussie con men with the balls not only to lie to there licensee but also every one of there customers. who at the gambling commission had these conversations with peter lord? as sorry as i feel for everyone whos involved here it could be a blessing in disguise that australian players are also owed money. i spent many years there and i know they look after there own. to have asic on our side is a massive plus. they will go through that business with a fine tooth comb and i hope they find what there looking for.

[shari91]

Dave you are 100% right... when ASIC told me we were moving forward I got goose bumps and then did a dance in my driveway when I hung up the phone. From the moment we found out that ASIC *might* be interested in this, I've been a walking stressball because I knew how important it'd be for us to get that final confirmation. We're approaching a million dollars owed in here alone and that's with me not even being able to access their Asian clients and with Peter acknowledging this is just a small drop in the total amount owed. This just doesn't fly here and you can bet your ass that the Aussie regulators are rubbing their hands in glee watching how poorly the GC handled this and continue to. I wouldn't be surprised to see a commercial soon highlighting that at least sportsbooks have to segregate funds here

We just need to keep at what we've been doing. It's been 2 weeks today since I went to their office... it feels like 6 months ago because of how much we've accomplished so much already. Look at what we've done together in FOURTEEN DAYS!!! There's no guarantee about any of this but instead of you all having to worry about legal fees eating into what you're owed, you now have a massive govt organisation working for you for free. Whatever happens, Peter and Graeme's reputations are ruined and will continue to be until each of you are paid every cent you're owed. Just keep every screenshot, email etc handy as I have a feeling ASIC will ask me to provide those details for each of you this week or next.

[fidelio]

Dave you are 100% right... when ASIC told me we were moving forward I got goose bumps and then did a dance in my driveway when I hung up the phone. From the moment we found out that ASIC *might* be interested in this, I've been a walking stressball because I knew how important it'd be for us to get that final confirmation. We're approaching a million dollars owed in here alone and that's with me not even being able to access their Asian clients and with Peter acknowledging this is just a small drop in the total amount owed. This just doesn't fly here and you can bet your ass that the Aussie regulators are rubbing their hands in glee watching how poorly the GC handled this and continue to. I wouldn't be surprised to see a commercial soon highlighting that at least sportsbooks have to segregate funds here

We just need to keep at what we've been doing. It's been 2 weeks today since I went to their office... it feels like 6 months ago because of how much we've accomplished so much already. Look at what we've done together in FOURTEEN DAYS!!! There's no guarantee about any of this but instead of you all having to worry about legal fees eating into what you're owed, you now have a massive govt organisation working for you for free. Whatever happens, Peter and Graeme's reputations are ruined and will continue to be until each of you are paid every cent you're owed. Just keep every screenshot, email etc handy as I have a feeling ASIC will ask me to provide those details for each of you this week or next.

A piece of encouraging news which has been a nightmare for us players due to the way we have been treated. As stated why couldn't the UK GC have done this months ago?

[SBR Natalie]

Hi guys,

If youd like to please checkout todays SBR video and leave your thoughts : http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...eo-report.html

[chachi]

... why couldn't the UK GC have done this months ago?

The GC is effectively toothless due to the lack of any legal requirement for segregated accounts or ringfencing operating funds and customer balances

[Craggs147]

Can you please add myself to the list

Account number 1160544
Amount owed £827.20
Withdrawal request end of October 2013.

[abhi]

The only reason i deposited using there bonuse code 100% upto$750 bcz it was license in UK. Trust me every day i receive 10 to 20 junk emails offering 100% bonuses but i was never lured into it bcz those betting site were licensed in some small island like malta and all. All the expert i have seek advice from had said only UK and aus are trustful. But, for my bad luck an UK license sportsbook cheated me...canbet owners are spoiling the name of UK.

[JayZ]

There is one form of betting licensed in the UK where client fund separation is commonplace and that is spread betting. Mind you that is regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority rather than the GC.

[chachi]

Yep, as that was always from day one "considered" financial market-related activity not gambling-related activity (due to ability to manipulate things directly)

[JayZ]

... even when it is spread betting on sports.

[chachi]

I didn't say there was necessarily any actual logic behind their blanket treatment of all spread instruments like that ... but things were muddled initially by Cantor and other financial market participants/market-makers getting into the spread trading business and it would've been ludicrous to envision split treatment/licensing on a case-by-case basis.

[JayZ]

It was the confusion that also led in part to gambling debts becoming enforceable by law once more, as it wasn't possible to clearly differentiate between gambling and speculation any more in all cases.

[chachi]

Well, debts became again enforceable by law by the book against the punter, but not really vice-versa as this indicates

[JayZ]

There won't be many who can bet with a bookie on a credit rather than a deposit basis. Although again this is quite common with spread betting.

[diondublin]

Shari,

Will you need Canbet account numbers too? I note some have provided them but some not - obviously they would be needed for certain purposes; i.e. to be compared against a Canbet database if that ever becomes relevant.

In any case, thanks very much for your hard work.