Canbet Sportsbook payout issues update - Canbet Director comments..

[Rikki]

I posted a few weeks informing I had made an FOI request to the GC and subsequently my account was blocked for "spamming". Just been unblocked, wonder who could have marked me as a spammer??

Massive thanks to Shari, you are unbelievable and given us all hope

Im owed £560.06 (+£60 court fees). From the UK and got a court judgement against them. Account 1161990

[fcbarca42]

Account No: 1150843
Country: Poland
Balance: € 9724.84

Let's drink to shari's health... Cheers!

[vaidqs]

Please add me to the list.
Account No.: 1134014
Country: Lithuania
Balance: 786.79 eur
Withdrawal requested on the 1st of December.

[Maziolena]

I'm already on the list. 10686 EUR.

[CunningStutns]

Heres a list of some UK newspaper emails, so that people dont have to go into each individual websites and look for them which is time consuming.

news.desk@express.co.uk

dtnews@telegraph.co.uk

newseditor@indeoendent.co.uk

consumer.champions@guardian.com

newsdesk@sunday-times.co.uk

news@dailystar.co.uk

mirrornews@mirror.co.uk

reader@observer.co.uk

Feel free to ad more.

I will contact all these UK papers tomorrow and refer them to this thread. All UK residents should do this.

Also, I have signed the e-petition going round and shared it on twitter. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/60846

[janetf8]

Signed the petition. I will email all those papers emails tomorrow. Do we have a template email of any kind?

[shari91]

PEOPLE OWED IN THIS THREAD

Please help to spread the word at other forums. "Unsure" next to your name or if the amount is bolded means I know you're owed but you havent said exactly how much so please let me know. If you can't post for some reason or wish to discuss something privately, please write sbr.shari@gmail.com


1. Yuretz: 4850 EUR

2. LN95994: 1400 EUR

3. diter: 195 EUR

4. atasway: over $5000

5. saltare33: 2900 EUR

6. stolarzz: 1000 GBP

7. Lodo: 730.81 ?

8. intergagne: 1425-1500 EUR

9. bancoricardo: 4,330 EUR

10. brockerly11: 2,711 GBP

11. the unheardof: 1,294 GBP

12. Sensible1: 1838.97 GBP

13. endtoend: 970.75 GBP

14. BIGB21: unsure

15. kholoshian: 532.04 GBP

16. Zdenaaa: $450 USD

17. tristan727: 6000 GBP

18. fidelio: similar to ^^^

19. dirtdog52658: $1924 CAD

20. Tommyarmouriii: 4,878 GBP

21: Maziolena: 10,686 EUR

22. MiloRambaldi: $3,004 CAD

23. MichelleV: $9560.25

24. charbish: unsure

removed

26. Julian495: unsure

27: mhodge24: 127 GBP

28. mart sinc: 2.5k

29: beachlover5: 2,600 GBP

30. FENDER1: unsure

31. Fred87: 650 EUR

32. smiffywhu: 4.3k

33. wpet99: 4,783 GBP

34. Krashman: $1545.30 USD

35. Joker10: 3100 EUR

36. Patryk: 4,897 EUR

37. hlorenz81: 2,245.80 EUR

38. delneri: $4,689 USD

39. Rikki: 560.06 GBP

40. benashey79: 1026 GBP

41. vladimir0v: unsure

42. Aitch: 3k

43. TG104: unsure

44. rogerh: 291 GBP

45. fraud-canbet: 4,000 GBP

46. GuybrushT: 12,000 EUR

47. RyDLloyd: 3,254.77 GBP

48. CunningStutns: 5,060 GBP

49. simply: 10,400 EUR

50. tomallen123: 570 GBP

51. panki: 5,000 GBP

52. oxo: 725.99 GBP

53. janetf8: 5,033.40 GBP

54. AS19: 6,500 GBP

55. lockstock777: 1,651 GBP

56. qinling: 443.42 EUR

57. VIRTUAL DAVE: 4,500 GBP

58. Pleased to Michu: 1,023.50 GBP

59. pitrs: 2,730 GBP

60. WesternWolf: 6,300 GBP

61. Namechanger: 1,385 GBP

62. aroberts77: 1,327.50 GBP

63. Peniosz: 6,100 GBP

64. Jor-El: 600 GBP

65. TARUN: 3,692 EUR

66. karli87: 2,200 EUR

67. smallplayer: 3,508 GBP

68. King_Suckerman: 2,460 GBP

69. SpiderBoy: $1380.93

70. rolandd86: $2,757.49 USD

71. Removed

72. barcir: 405.38 EUR

73. paybk99: $5,000

74. superhands27: 3,400 GBP

75. hatke: 1,810 EUR

76. nelon: 4,900 EUR

77. etelna: 4,638 EUR

78. jenjoh: 465.09 EUR

79. icestorm: 285 GBP

80. pareto12: 2211.15 GBP

81. marinemonk: 1,140 GBP

82. Halifax: $4,960

83. kensei12: unsure

84: lolly22: 1424 GBP

85. amali83: 477.96 EUR

86. ghipuca: $280.16 USD

87. Vilmer: 558 GBP

88. whuscott: 322.50 GBP

89. NaidenMB: 2,212.39 EUR

90. NaidenMB's friend Roya: 1,346.52 EUR

91. callirye: 1,137 GBP

92. coronalime: 400 GBP

93. stoffnilsson: 499.46 GBP

94. samuelson: 10,000 GBP

95. DenverLewis: 1,500 GBP

96. bigmiky: 700 GBP

97. Roaldos: 960 EUR

98. avee: 1,800 GBP

99. wailoktam: $7,368.67 USD

100. lolo72: 1,228.85 EUR

101. Greekvik: $558 USD

102. cabbo: 729 GBP

103. sampou: 3,676.90 EUR

104: edsisto: 797.18 GBP

105. leeboo: 540 GBP

106. duncanbruce93: 1,867.75 GBP

107. marsima: $750 USD

108: Hendrik: 1,436.26 EUR

109. poncco: 500 EUR

110. Tomislav K: 5,455.10 EUR

111. Kackey: 2,007.36 GBP

112. BETTIX: 560

113. CM1979: 1,607.60 EUR

114. matcyklop: 3,907.83 EUR

115. skunkbentley: 877.44 GBP

116. Philbrix: 1,773 GBP

117. linkatine: 1,298 GBP

118. Arinosa: $2020.19 AUD

119. juhka: 3,377.69 EUR

120. LEONIDAS79: 1,505 EUR

121. grimoopnorth: 3,269 GBP

122. prema09: 748 EUR

123. MLZ3211: 2523 GBP

124. snoooze: 221.33 GBP

125. mewerik07: 1,545 EUR

126. mramor: 1,060 EUR

127. JayZ: 132.61 GBP

128. mistaya: 1,096.50 GBP

129. egypt1312: 8,100 EUR

130. Shiva: 3,738.49 GBP

131. StickyIcky: 2,500 GBP

132. victoria: 3,000 EUR

133. andrei: 2,694 EUR

134. dnl: 900 EUR

135. TomB121: 1,600 GBP

136. bojidardimov: 2,655 EUR

137. Kulfono: $3,502.08

138. G - 5,000 EUR

139. ggplayer333: 2,800 GBP

140. James: 2,302 GBP

141. alexcarroll: 3,820 GBP

142. nicwelsh: 3,160.56 GBP

143. RoepStoep: 2,700 EUR

144. adam7dalby: 716 GBP

145. chriswood: 780 GBP

146. eeewqaewa: 2,872.70 EUR

147. lelicek: 344 EUR

148. atasway: $5,896.03 AUD

149. diondublin: 559.35 GBP

150. Kaiaiaia: 1,266.88 EUR

151. Lodo: 730.81 EUR

152. Ogurr: 462.23 EUR

153. janbanan: $1,424

154. ahibbo12: 760 GBP

155. kmy1: 3,538.98 GBP

156. countdacash: 4,934 GBP

157. Latexi77: 5,425 EUR

158. mate: 3,381.56 EUR

159. jlin: 939.90 GBP

160. Ascot_Ed: 2,657 GBP

161. sukre111: 1,609.23 EUR

162. Claret1985: 3,688.50 GBP

163. juxtapose: 2,836.65 GBP

164. chrisc156: 1393.50 GBP

165. vlindqvi75: 1,143.94 EUR

166. dwc777: 1,160.60 GBP

167. samika: 2,120 EUR

168. eddie701: 2,700 EUR

169. Jusben: 1,812.75 GBP

170. apower: 1,300 GBP

171. VOLIAS1979: 434 EUR

172. intergagne: 1,525 EUR

173. AceRothsteinCL: 807 GBP

174. Mauro77: 1,616 EUR

175. scoundrels: 4,895 GBP

176. gianted: 1,527 EUR

177. szipszil: 1,123 EUR

178. zochris: 1,600 EUR

179. zochris' friend: 2,900 EUR

180. jone: 6,472.18 EUR

181. Sliphod: 1,172.25 GBP

182. mermers: 2,185 GBP

183. fcbarca42: 9,724.84 EUR

184. vaidqs: 786.79 EUR

185. lcasey: 3,280 GBP

186. alexwooty: 2,078.53 GBP

187. emjayee100: 2,231 GBP

188. Ahab: 637.50 GBP

189. davidk8445: 886 GBP

190. canbet2014: 2,627.01 GBP

191. Vanja: 1,810 EUR

192. antt: 5,200 GBP

193. mikey47: 1,094.75

[shari91]

As of post #709, total amount owed in this thread is 396,272 GBP or $735,505 AUD

[Hareeba!]

I also reported the matter to GC and IBAS (next to useless)

Whilst I acknowledge that IBAS may not be the most useful of bodies, for people to be castigating them over this issue simply shows that they have no comprehension of their role. They are NOT a regulator. They have no powers. They are simply supposedly an independent arbitrator in betting disputes between players and bookies.

You may just as well complain that the RSPCA, Red Cross or the weather bureau provide no assistance in getting your money back from Canbet.

[mojobullfrog]

I will contact all these UK papers tomorrow and refer them to this thread. All UK residents should do this.

Also, I have signed the e-petition going round and shared it on twitter. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/60846

I know plenty of people in the UK who waited for months to be paid last year, via my Twitter handle (@crookbooks). I'm sure many of them would be happy to sign the petition. Also, for those of you who do use twitter, please follow me and we can try to ensure as many customers from around the world are made aware of this SBR thread. For those of you who use Facebook, please spread the word.

[rogerh]

The responsibility for gambling regulation in the UK (including the Gambling Commission) falls under the Department of Culture, Media & Sport. The minister is the Rt Hon Maria Miller MP and her opposite number is the Rt Hon Harriet Harman MP. The business of the department is scrutinised by the Select Committee for Culture, Media & Sport, chaired by John Whittingdale MP. It might be worth emailing any of these. (I would post links but including some in my first post got me banned as a suspected spammer! However if you google 'Department of Culture, Media & Sport' it should give you the necessary details.)

[alexwooty]

Hi, just registered here to say that I am also owed by Canbet, and it would be amazing if there's anything that could be done to get my money back.

Account number: 1158094
Amount owed: 2078.53 GBP
Withdrawal request made 25/12/13

Please add me to the list

[emjayee100]

Hi all
I am owed £2231 since the end of November.

[Krashman]

This is probably obvious to everyone but you should be reporting your entire Canbet balance here as the amount owed to you, not just the amount of a pending withdrawal that you have been waiting for.

[bostonboss]

chalk it as a loss move on....this is the risk you take betting anywhere offshore...you are just creating more heartbreak for yourself reliving this stiffing everyday......read a book/take a walk....smoke a joint.....relax.

[FENDER1]

Canbet wasn't offshore

[Hareeba!]

Canbet wasn't offshore

"offshore" is a relative term, so it depends where you are.

[bostonboss]

offshore to me....

[Hareeba!]

chalk it as a loss move on....this is the risk you take betting anywhere offshore...you are just creating more heartbreak for yourself reliving this stiffing everyday......read a book/take a walk....smoke a joint.....relax.

I can't accept this attitude at all.

Letting criminals get away with defrauding players only permits them to return in another entity to repeat their crime. It also encourages others to try the same stunt if they see perpetrators getting away with it.

[bostonboss]

books stiff people all the time hareeba...look at all the blacklisted books....this is the risk you take....same risk you take with a local.....or some joe schmo......

[bostonboss]

the majority of people who run these books are scumbags ....you deal with shiit sometimes you get shiit on....its the same risk as flying in a plane or crossing the street....sometimes the plane crashes.......its an inheritant possibly.....there is always a possibility a book will fold.......commission/regulated or not....

[pareto12]

The directors have given us a broken link to access the Delta Corp website.

You can still access the Delta Corp website via the wayback engine using the following link :-

http://web.archive.org/web/20140207093621/http://deltacorp.in/index.html

[bostonboss]

delta corp is not going to do anything....

[bostonboss]

good luck guys.....but I don't think its going to work out.

[mojobullfrog]

Boston - shouldn't you be reading a book or something instead of imparting your "wisdom" in here? Perhaps a dose of your own advice wouldn't go astray. You obviously weren't allegedly defrauded to the tune of thousands of dollars/euros/pounds.

[bostonboss]

I was defrauded 2600 by ESB and I never whined or cried about it.....people were defrauded by betislands but the owners of this site turned a blind eye......I took it as a 2600 lesson now I only play where they pay and I do not keep large balances anymore....it was a 2600 lesson.

[hristo1971]

chalk it as a loss move on....this is the risk you take betting anywhere offshore...you are just creating more heartbreak for yourself reliving this stiffing everyday......read a book/take a walk....smoke a joint.....relax.

don't worry bostonboss... everybody here is more relaxed every day... excepting lord and white, maybe you have some good advise for them... like selling a horse or two

[Hareeba!]

I was defrauded 2600 by ESB and I never whined or cried about it.....people were defrauded by betislands but the owners of this site turned a blind eye......I took it as a 2600 lesson now I only play where they pay and I do not keep large balances anymore....it was a 2600 lesson.

Exactly my point.
Let the bastards get away with it and this will just continue.
You need to be careful when choosing books to play at.
I'd never trust places like BetIslands and 99.9% of the delisted books.
Canbet is somewhat different. They have a long history, firstly being licensed in Australia and then the UK. Both jurisdictions where players have good reason to believe that the regulatory environment offers them more protection. Sadly it seems now that the UK isn't as safe as many of us might have believed.
You're probably right that the money's all gone but that's no reason to just adopt your "don't worry" attitude. Make somebody pay for the crime. Lobby hard for improved regulation and control.

[mojobullfrog]

I was defrauded 2600 by ESB and I never whined or cried about it.....people were defrauded by betislands but the owners of this site turned a blind eye......I took it as a 2600 lesson now I only play where they pay and I do not keep large balances anymore....it was a 2600 lesson.

Indeed, dodgy behaviour seems entrenched in this industry. I won't disagree. But rather than just accepting that this is the way it is, I think it's about time some steps (no matter how small) were taken to clean things up. Remember, these guys were licensed in the UK, not some backwater. And the parent company 'iGas Group' should have abided by the rules of Australian company law, like any other. Or perhaps not?

By the way, customers were not the only people affected here. Affiliates, staff and (in my case) consultants.

[Ahab]

Please add me too.
637.50 GBP owed since 17/12/2013.

Thanks.

[bostonboss]

I agree better regulation is needed.....but calling delta corp isn't going to help....U.K. books do seem shady to me..some at least......all im saying is I don't think the money is coming back.....if you want better regulating...I wish the best..but lets face it....online gambling is going in the toilet

[shari91]

I agree better regulation is needed.....but calling delta corp isn't going to help....U.K. books do seem shady to me..some at least......all im saying is I don't think the money is coming back.....if you want better regulating...I wish the best..but lets face it....online gambling is going in the toilet

The money might not come back but the whole point is that these guys have legal options to pursue their cash whereas those who bet in CR don't. I jumped in this thread when the issue had already been going on for months as I'd been away from SBR during that time and because no one else was able to visit their offices, I did. I honestly expected to find they had disappeared; instead they had the balls to set up a new company in the exact same office with the exact same website "allegedly" planning to do the exact same thing but with a Phillipines license this time. All while claiming to be solvent. This unfortunately doesn't matter in CR but in Australia this is illegal and you face having to pay what you owe people + heavy fines and up to 5 years in prison. To make it worse, the GC assured people this 20yr old book was solvent so people continued to deposit there believing a friggen govt body was on top of it. This isn't a forum trying to best advise people on what books are decent or not... it's a tax-payer funded regulatory body. We've managed to get Peter and Graeme to come out of hiding twice now in the past week, there's already been one article in one of the largest Aussie papers with more to come and on tv. Things are finally happening and the media attention is increasing each time I check my email and phone so to give up now would be ridiculous.

[davidk8445]

Hi guys, I am owed £886. Good luck to everyone!

[mojobullfrog]

Yet another indiscretion by the directors of Canbet:

"Canbet are not approved to publish and use Victorian thoroughbred race fields and appear to have been in breach of Victorian race fields legislation prior to their recent trading suspension.

They have been paying no returns to the Victorian racing industry for the use of our product, nor were they complying with our integrity requirements as approved wagering operators are obligated to do."

- Bernard Saundry, Racing Victoria CEO

http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/news/RVL/n_RV_Statement_on_Canbet.aspx

[shari91]

Yet another indiscretion by the directors of Canbet:

"Canbet are not approved to publish and use Victorian thoroughbred race fields and appear to have been in breach of Victorian race fields legislation prior to their recent trading suspension.

They have been paying no returns to the Victorian racing industry for the use of our product, nor were they complying with our integrity requirements as approved wagering operators are obligated to do."

- Bernard Saundry, Racing Victoria CEO


http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/new...on_Canbet.aspx

YES!!!!

Way to go Peter... you might want to lay low the next time one of your horses race.