Canbet Sportsbook payout issues update - Canbet Director comments..

[shari91]

eddie701 is having trouble posting at the moment so he asked me to post this on his behalf:

"Great work from Shari and everybody.
Now that our cause is highlighted in Austrailia, we need to ring fence these scammers
Leave them with no back door to where they can escape.

Graham White and Peter Lord will be disgraced in Austrailia and maybe even get their knuckles rapped
from the Austrailian Authorities. But we have to keep our eye on the ball.
Remember the last two lines from the Herald sun.

After being contacted about the case by the Herald Sun the Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation said it had nothing to do with them.

"Canbet is an online bookmaker and is licensed in the United Kingdom — therefore it comes under the jurisdiction of the UK Gambling Commission," a VCGLR spokesman said.

Here for a start is what we need to do, Contact the English Media with our Story.
We need the proper authorities to stand up and take notice.

Here are a few national Uk Papers

www.dailymail.co.uk

www.express.co.uk

www.telegraph.co.uk

www.theguardian.com

www.independent.co.uk

www.thesun.co.uk

www.thetimes.co.uk

Just Pass on your story about the constant lies and fraud that Canbet are involved with.
Remember our friends the Aussies will redden their ears. And hopfully the English will get them for Criminal activity."

[Cessation]

Any outspoken opposition MPs in England that would like to have a crack at the government and the uselessness of the UK gaming commission? Maybe another angle to bombard.

[lockstock777]

Thanks again SHARI for this excellent work. We all need to jump on this straight away and take action, no excuses. Something very bad has happened here and the people responsible will not just be walking away.

[shari91]

Just a reminder that Alex from the ABC is looking to talk to people, especially if you're in Australia or the UK. mcdonald.alex@abc.net.au

[hristo1971]

Any outspoken opposition MPs in England that would like to have a crack at the government and the uselessness of the UK gaming commission? Maybe another angle to bombard.

uselessness is euphemistic... unfortunately the GC harmed players they were supposed to protect, giving them assurances that Canbet has the money and are working "diligently" bla bla... so encouraging them to wait passively (if not put more money into the ponzi scheme)

@ the unheardof: I am not from the UK so haven't paid indirectly some civil servants to scam me, but feel the same frustration against the GC and consider them as guilty as lord&white, because UK was always in my mind the ideal type of democracy, capitalism and civilization... GC is a big dissapointment and a shame for England

[VOLIAS1979]

Hi!

I am a new SBR member from Greece.
Can(t)bet owes me 434 EUROS since 4/12 where i made my last withdraw.

I want to make a suggestion in every user who is reading this thread and have recieved any payment from Canbet the last 5 months,to post any details of this payment.
It will be usefull also to make a list of Canbet users which have recieved a payment at least the last 5 months,
if there is any....

Keep up the good work!

[the unheardof]

Word is getting round: http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...ts-021314.html

[TGTDave]

IBAS response re: Canbet

Latest response from IBAS following enquiries by TheGamblingTimes.com

Hoping to get an interview with the head of the IBAS (working on it at the moment), and the Gambling Commission........but they seem to not want to talk to us as the moment, can't think why.

Hi David

We have received a large number of complaints from customers of Canbet
regarding non-payment.

However, I have to advise you that we cannot become involved in any
complaint until such time that complainant(s) are advised by the company
that they are not being paid for whatever specific reason. Up until now
we were expecting most customers to be paid. We have no statutory
powers and only offer a independent, third party opinion in the
settlement and pricing of betting transactions.

IBAS does not have the powers or resources to conduct investigations
into the financial viability of those bookmakers that register with us.
Ultimately, this Service relies upon the cooperation of the bookmaker
with ourselves in order to enable us to complete a satisfactory
adjudication on any dispute. Visit our website IBAS Home for more
information regarding IBAS.

I appreciate that this does not provide you with the information about
Canbet that you were most likely seeking but where any bookmaker is
apparently repeatedly failing to honour customer payments this is bound
to be squarely a regulatory issue and I know the UK Gambling Commission
have been in touch with Canbet regarding the issue. They may have more
information regarding the situation and I also believe there is also a
report on their website regarding the matter.

However I can advise that a piece did go in the Australian newspaper
Herald Sun a day or so ago and I have attached the above article.

I will forward your request regarding an interview onto our Managing
Director, Richard Hayler, to respond to.

Regards
Danny Cracknell
Adjudication Manager
IBAS

[dirtdog52658]

eddie701 is having trouble posting at the moment so he asked me to post this on his behalf:

"Great work from Shari and everybody.
Now that our cause is highlighted in Austrailia, we need to ring fence these scammers
Leave them with no back door to where they can escape.

Graham White and Peter Lord will be disgraced in Austrailia and maybe even get their knuckles rapped
from the Austrailian Authorities. But we have to keep our eye on the ball.
Remember the last two lines from the Herald sun.

After being contacted about the case by the Herald Sun the Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation said it had nothing to do with them.

"Canbet is an online bookmaker and is licensed in the United Kingdom — therefore it comes under the jurisdiction of the UK Gambling Commission," a VCGLR spokesman said.

Here for a start is what we need to do, Contact the English Media with our Story.
We need the proper authorities to stand up and take notice.

Here are a few national Uk Papers

www.dailymail.co.uk

www.express.co.uk

www.telegraph.co.uk

www.theguardian.com

www.independent.co.uk

www.thesun.co.uk

www.thetimes.co.uk

Just Pass on your story about the constant lies and fraud that Canbet are involved with.
Remember our friends the Aussies will redden their ears. And hopfully the English will get them for Criminal activity."

Add the following to the list.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/

[dirtdog52658]

This was sent to another poster on another forum. Letter from IBAS.

Hi David

We have received a large number of complaints from customers of Canbet
regarding non-payment.

However, I have to advise you that we cannot become involved in any
complaint until such time that complainant(s) are advised by the company
that they are not being paid for whatever specific reason. Up until now
we were expecting most customers to be paid. We have no statutory
powers and only offer a independent, third party opinion in the
settlement and pricing of betting transactions.

IBAS does not have the powers or resources to conduct investigations
into the financial viability of those bookmakers that register with us.
Ultimately, this Service relies upon the cooperation of the bookmaker
with ourselves in order to enable us to complete a satisfactory
adjudication on any dispute. Visit our website IBAS Home for more
information regarding IBAS.

I appreciate that this does not provide you with the information about
Canbet that you were most likely seeking but where any bookmaker is
apparently repeatedly failing to honour customer payments this is bound
to be squarely a regulatory issue and I know the UK Gambling Commission
have been in touch with Canbet regarding the issue. They may have more
information regarding the situation and I also believe there is also a
report on their website regarding the matter.

However I can advise that a piece did go in the Australian newspaper
Herald Sun a day or so ago and I have attached the above article.

I will forward your request regarding an interview onto our Managing
Director, Richard Hayler, to respond to.

Regards
Danny Cracknell
Adjudication Manager
IBAS

[intergagne]

Hello, Please add me to the list - I am owed €1525 since November. Thanks

[simply]

Just a reminder that Alex from the ABC is looking to talk to people, especially if you're in Australia or the UK. mcdonald.alex@abc.net.au

Although I am not good with English I will sent mail, maybe that help on some way. I suggest newcomers to thread and all others (with native English) to contact Alex, instead just adding their names and amounts on Shari's list. Don't expect your money, but only register on forum, reporting money owed and do nothing more. Give some contribution, don't be lazy, and expect from Shari to do all. He already did much more then anyone of us, although he don't have any money owed here.
Also this is valid for English newspapers too, send your story to those from above list, I just prepare text now.

[shari91]

This is a message from poster qinling:

Guys,

To get more people robbed by canbet it would be nice to spread this discussion on local forum,, I mean forums from your countries, especially those made in your national languages. I just did something like this in Poland, were I'm from.

Together we are stronger!

Good luck to all of us!

[AceRothsteinCL]

Hi guys,

I am also waiting for £807 since December 7th.

A big thanks to Shari and the rest who have contributed in making this theft public.

[Mauro77]

Hi to all!

I'm new to this forum, I've been following this thread a few week now, but this is my first post.
I'm from Germany. Account 1152864.
On account is 1616 EUR. I did ask withdrawal of 1500 EUR on 05.12.2013, but at moment would like to have all sum on Neteller.

You can add me to the list.

[JayZ]

Latest response from IBAS following enquiries by TheGamblingTimes.com

Hoping to get an interview with the head of the IBAS (working on it at the moment), and the Gambling Commission........but they seem to not want to talk to us as the moment, can't think why.

You might have already done this, but as well as going through the 'Executive' part of the GC, there are all the members of the Board of Commissioners to get in touch with. This is largely a collection of the great and the good that are supposed to oversee the governance of the GC at the top level. These may not have considered the possibility of personal reputation risk of being associated with the GC in the case of a massive failure of a remote licencee. They don't publish contact details, but since most (all?) of these have other listed interests these wouldn't be too hard to find.

[jimmy991]

Danny Cracknell of IBAS is absolutely useless. He really is a borderline idiot. Don't waste your time with him. I had a dispute with a bookmaker which was clear cut yet he ruled with the bookmaker. I had to pursue them via the courts after which I won and was paid.
IBAS/GC have no interest in players and are far from impartial. I hope the GC pay for this. They have really screwed players over.

[scoundrels]

Owed £4895 since start of October, thanks for the work on here

[lcasey]

hi there shari regarding Canbet can you put me on your list ,what do you need email:carasac@gmail.com

[bancoricardo]

For accuracy, the amount owing to me is £4330, so please add another £330 to the total. That's since October.

[gianted]

Please add me to the list:

I'm owed EUR 1527 by canbet since 20 October

[dirtdog52658]

Originally Posted by David
It might be a long shot, but we have a petition for the government.

Canbet and how the Gambling Commission failed - e-petitions

Standard rules apply; 100,000 and it'll be discussed in the commons, 10,000 and we'll get a response from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (who sponsor the Gambling Commission).

On a more realistic note, 500 gets us on the front page and a chance of being noticed.

[simply]

Originally Posted by David
It might be a long shot, but we have a petition for the government.

Canbet and how the Gambling Commission failed - e-petitions

Standard rules apply; 100,000 and it'll be discussed in the commons, 10,000 and we'll get a response from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (who sponsor the Gambling Commission).

On a more realistic note, 500 gets us on the front page and a chance of being noticed.

Unfortunately I had message: You must be a British citizen or normally live in the UK to create or sign e-petitions. I am not British. Can we collect at least 500 signs? We must contact English newspapers for sure , hopefully most of owed British will do that asap, I already start that.

[eddie701]

Tried to sign, but its only for UK residents

[wpet99]

Add me to the list, UK Resident $4783 owed since 1st Nov 2013

[eddie701]

Heres a list of some UK newspaper emails, so that people dont have to go into each individual websites and look for them which is time consuming.

news.desk@express.co.uk

dtnews@telegraph.co.uk

newseditor@indeoendent.co.uk

consumer.champions@guardian.com

newsdesk@sunday-times.co.uk

news@dailystar.co.uk

mirrornews@mirror.co.uk

reader@observer.co.uk

Feel free to ad more.

[delneri]

Hi, all friends not to Happiness. I'm already in the list, add the exact amount of the debt. Canbet owe me 4689 usd from October 18, 2013. My account number is 1149010. I am from Ukraine. Thank all the people who are struggling, especially with Australia and the UK, you have more opportunities to do so, but is ready to participate in all endeavors to return our money.

[Julz82]

Joined just for this. If you are from the UK you MUST sign the petition. It is UK law that if it hits the targets the Government must act and answer the questions raised.

[szipszil]

Hi All, I also joined just for this, thanks for your work here.
Please add me to the list.
I am from Hungary, Canbet owes me 1123€ since early November.

[zochris]

Hello!
Thanks for your actions guys.
I am from greece and my account number is 116 22 03 and i made the withdraw at 29/10/2013.
My account balance is 1600 euros.

Also my best friend has account there . The account number is 116 10 61 . He is waiting the withraw since 5/10/2013. The account balance thereis is 2900 euros.

[simply]

The Sun email: exclusive@the-sun.co.uk

Any possibility that administrators put this petition somewhere on top of the forum or SBR site?

[mhodge24]

someone with a lot of gambling friends on twitter needs to stick the e-petition on there... i dont have enough friends!!

[jone]

Hi!

I'm from Finland and would like to thank you all for the nice work so far, especially shari91. I've lost hope to get the money a while ago, but these new info you've gathered have gave a little more hope. I have made complaints to SBR, GC and IBAS and gotten pretty much the same answers as the others. I made my first withdraw request on mid October and the second one on the last days of November. First was 3500€ and second 2000€, which left another 972,18€ to my Canbet account.

So I'm owed total 6472,18€.

[Sliphod]

Hi, please add me to the list.

Owed £1172.25 Withdraw request made on the 17/12/2013

[mermers]

Please add me to the list. I am a UK resident owed £2185. I made my first withdrawal request for £1905 on 28 November 2013 and my second for £280 on 4 December 2013.

I also reported the matter to GC and IBAS (next to useless) and have a summary court judgment for the sum plus £80 plus interest at 8%. I have served a statutory demand on Canbet and can petition for their insolvency without notice if necessary. I doubt that this would serve any immediate purpose at the moment.

Happy to provide any more information to the general effort here if needed.