betphoenix problem!

[Santo]

This one is going to get messy...

"I will refrain from posting your exact e-mail to sports-1 claiming your 13 year old son got on your computer and lost all of your money in the casino."

UCBearcats: What's the story behind this? Was this before or after the 12 days? Once you threatened to **********, you'd dug a big hole..

[Peep]

Please do tell ur story bearcats.

Is the 13 year old son a part of it? Or did Richard just make that up out of the blue?

[RJbetphoenix]

I am not mad, just doing my job. I invite SBR to come over to verify this info anytime they would like. Like you, I have nothing to hide.

Best of luck to you, and you did get a full refund for both charges, so you are at net zero at Phoenix. Have a nice day sir, It is unfortunate it had to go this way. Nobody has gained anything here at all today.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

I will refrain from posting your exact e-mail to sports-1 claiming your 13 year old son got on your computer and lost all of your money in the casino.

Oh, and for completeness:




Hilarious that someone tries to pull a 'someone else lost all my money in the casino' line, then chargebacks and complains when the book later boots them.

[robertg]

Geez,
I never thought of this one. Hey Richard, I'm act **** and I have lost probably a couple of g's at your place, with wagers and casino....Anyway, to make a long story short, my 6 year-old daughter, has hacked my laptop and made stupid wagers and played some very poor black jack. I think if you look at my casino history, it'll be proof enough, it had to be a child to play so poorly. (lol) I look forward to your help. PS.
please keep this story quiet, my six year-old's attorney, just said they will sue me for defamation of character if I accuse her of being as poor a gambler as I am.

on a serious note, I didn't know cc would work with betphoenix, I'd use your shop more,but the ** is such a pain. Keep up the good work You've got some great lines.

robert

[Halifax]

This is the same guy who had problems with YouWager because his "fiancee" opened an account which had striking similiarities to his own:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/139823-you-wager-payout-complaint.html#post1457776

Not hard to believe ... I know a ton of guys whose fiancee opens betting accounts, and whose 13-year old kid bets his dad's $6K balance down to zero while he and his wife are away.

And as an added note, he had the kid/wife problem on January 16th, and had the fiancee problem on January 28th ... so apparently, between the 16th and the 28th, he dumped his first wife and got engaged to the fiancee ... must be a pretty smooth operator.




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[katstale]

Man, this made my day!! I am still sitting here dumbfounded. Got to give it up to Richard. I would have unloaded on this dude. See this is what Justin was ranting abt just a few weeks ago.

Richard, please go right back to sorting out payments to folks who don't have kids older than them. We need our money. also you guys might want to consider not taking players from Appalachia.

Durito? Where are you in this!! lolol This is classic!

[casinojack]

Richard

My dog ate my picks, please refund my money

Thanks

[ucbearcats1027]

dude you guys can for real all think what you want regarding this matter, I came here to tell you the story. Some misfortunate events have really happen but it makes no matter to me rather you believe me or not.

[RJbetphoenix]

This is a very unfortunate situation, and we all take a black eye here. I am sorry to Matt as well. I prefer to handle these types of things off of the forum.

[Halifax]

All i know is good luck depositing into betphoenix in the future because I am going to let every bank know of there processors, (keyword processors good thing I still got a friend with a betphoenix account so I can make sure I know all the new ones).

Nice move, asshole ... screw all the other players over because you got busted.

[ucbearcats1027]

I didnt get busted doing shit. jack ass. I didnt even commit a damn charge back. The cards were suspossed to be refunded in the first place. Why would I charge back if the cards were going to get refunded?>?:>? You cant get paid twice by doing that stupid.

[ucbearcats1027]

apparently richard wants to play dirty so if thats how its going to be then thats what he'll get

[Stumpage]

Absolutely classic thread. Personally, this has not dissuaded me one bit in terms of opening an account at BetPhoenix in the near future.

It has however, given me second thoughts with regards to leaving my browsers open during the day, as I have some children and several cats.

[Peep]

I will go with the "Tipping Point" theory here, and bet that ucbearcats has a record of other fraudulent activities as well, besides scamming offshore books.

Since he wants to turn other people in, maybe someone should report him as well.

Just saying......

[ucbearcats1027]

dude this post is so out of hand . this will be my last post. I dont care if you guys believe me about my "chargenack" but I have the proof to show it never happened so we will see who wins

[Peep]

Bearcats, your conduct with chargebacks in out of hand.

That is theft.

[ucbearcats1027]

peep obviously you know nothing,

[Trident]

"Okay here is the problem, my account has 6,000 dollars in it yesterday and when I got home from work this morning it only had 13.00 dollars. Me and my wife have figured out the problem it appears that my 13 year old son played blackjack(I left the wagering window open when I left for work) he did not know it was for real money and thought it was just a game. Since he is not 18 years old I have spoken to my lawyer regarding this issue and hes assured me that since my son is under the 18 year old requirement and since I can prove that I was at work and it was not me playing the bets should be null and void. Since you guys operate in a different country though he said it would cost more to actually go to court on this matter. He has advised me to dispute the credit card charges in relation to the matter that my son who was under age was playing since I left the wagering window open. My son has been grounded but what he has done cannot be undone by him since he is only 13. I will not dispute the charges until I hear back from you guys but my lawyer has told me that you guys will probably do nothing even though I am a very trustworthy person and I have deposited into your site many times. I really dont want to have to dispute the charges, I love your site but If you guys are not going to do anything about it then I will have to take my lawyers advise. Yes it was my fault that I left the wagering window open but it was an accident and I had not clue he was going to play thinking it was just a game. Please email me back so I can know where I am going from here. Sincerely
edited (I wont post your name)

P.S. Just so you know, my son is adopted thats how he is 13 years old when im only 22.

You can't make this stuff up

[alton618]

LOL, Sorry, this is my first post in regards to a matter like this. I've actually lost 2k once on a online casino run where my first reaction from the loss was : WTF, what can i say to get my money back? Im so dumb for chasing....."
On a similar note,
I'm going to try a similar version of this story *it may just work*

Dear Mercedes

I went to work one day and when i returned home, I left my brand new c55 Amg Mercedes's door open in my garage, where my 12 yr old adopted son managed to climb into and somehow used his crayons and paint to draw and color in every interior part of the car. He is now grounded and i know its my fault for leaving the car door open but it was an accident. You can ask Honda or Ford, I've always been a trustworthy person and i would never lie. I really do not want to charge back $100,000 so please refund me my $100,000. KK THANKS! Sincerely


I'm impressed with BP! Gonna join and deposit sometime in the near future!

[gamble4heisman]

I have had 2 minor accounting situations at Phoenix in the past month on wagers. They were both corrected promptly as i spoke to Richard directly by phone and email. These were over very small amounts of money and he took the time, heard me out and made it right. Nothing but props for phoenix, i'll back them up on or off forum if need be.

[Santo]

This is the same guy who had problems with YouWager because his "fiancee" opened an account which had striking similiarities to his own:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/139823-you-wager-payout-complaint.html#post1457776

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This one's pretty much the clincher... All the goodwill in the world makes it hard to feel sympathy for this player.

[katstale]

I had to take a little break, but now I am back. With all deference to Richard, I hope this stays near the top for a few days. Hall of fame stuff in here. And I am certain it can get better.

Maybe Justin can start a Hall of Fame archive that we can access with world class post/threads like this one.

[cobra_king]

Early season favorite for thread of the year.

[Halifax]

P.S. Just so you know, my son is adopted thats how he is 13 years old when im only 22.

LOL, classic ... just noticed this for the first time.

They must go splits on Oxy 5, and wear the same baggy pants.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the kid's banging both the fiancee and the wife.



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[durito]

Man, this made my day!! I am still sitting here dumbfounded. Got to give it up to Richard. I would have unloaded on this dude. See this is what Justin was ranting abt just a few weeks ago.

Richard, please go right back to sorting out payments to folks who don't have kids older than them. We need our money. also you guys might want to consider not taking players from Appalachia.

Durito? Where are you in this!! lolol This is classic!

my favorite part is consulting his lawyer because a sportsbook payment took 12 days

[durito]

wait what?

you are 22? 13 year old son?

[APK]

And I wouldn't be surprised if the kid's banging both the fiancee and the wife.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

My favourite bit was where the lawyer advised him to **********, because "his son" lost $6000 playing blackjack.

Actually, that sounds like some lawyers I know :-)

[Justin7]

I try to give the player every possible benefit of the doubt... But even with that, this one is hard to swallow.

[MartinBlank]

UC.....

Come on man. Your 13 year old adopted son played out your winnings?

Why would you seek legal advice in the USA that clearly demonstrates that you were doing something in the shady side of the UIGEA?

I think you should pay BetPhoenix another grand just for tolerating you.

This thread has clearly demonstrated one thing. UCBearcat is a deadbeat. And as soon as he loses, he tries every trick he can muster to get that money back. Playing with a book is hard enough, adding theft and threatening to ruin good books for other players is just dumb.

[Boner_18]

While I am wary of a flat **********/invalid bettor policy this is clearly a case where sound business judgement and not such a policy was exercised.

[rufcut]

Amazing how fast Phoenix can process a withdrawal when it suits them.

[playa420]

classic thread

[MartinBlank]

Amazing how fast Phoenix can process a withdrawal when it suits them.

Ruf...

I won money at Phoenix in the last 128 SBR Contest...and turned it into a few grand.

Phoenix paid me same day....within hours of the request. That is why I am such a big fan.

I am not a big player---just a small time player---and they paid me fast. What more could I ask for?