Why do you say he's crazy ? He was like a general in the navy or something, guy fought for this country. Guy called out everything... Doing it, and reaching a lot of people is a bit crazy, as we know it didn't end well for Mr. Bill Cooper. Shot dead by law enforcement at his own house... For nothing.
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I was being sarcastic buddy. I was ridiculing SBR Posters who think they know it all and everyone who knows the truth is crazy, lying and a tin foil wearing lunatic.Comment -
apparently your entire army of "truthers" and "conspiracy nuts" can't even agree on the purpose.... some think it's this oh-so-elusive "NWO", some think its George W. wanting to continue his daddy's war, some think it's just the plain ol "Government", some think it about oil, others think its all about the military and the corporations who bank on supplying our military continuing to develop their weapons, and sell those weapons, etc., and yet even others say it's all about a rich NYC jew making a few billions off an insurance company.........
so, ebe, which is your pick?Comment -
Yes, I'm sure it is quite disturbing to you when someone else asks you to explain the purpose on an event such as 9/11
I'm a science guy Ebe, I always have to ask what the purpose is, of everything.
If you're confident in your theory, no need to get defensive as you did.
I've learned in life the more confident I am in something, the calmer and less defensive I get, because ultimately I know I'm right and that it will prevail.
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you're kidding, right?
OBL was trying to get weapons grade materials for years, and even met with Pakistani gov't officials re: acquiring "bomb making technology", representing to them that he had the means to acquire the necessary fissile material, but needed the actual detonation hardware to blow it up..... when initially quizzed by the pakistani officials about the difficulties of acquiring weapons grade fissile materials, he responded with "what makes you think we don't already have it."
bottom line, there is enough unaccounted for weapons grade material out there, and sorry enough mother fukkers, whether motivated by money or a hatred of the US, to ultimately supply mooselum terrorists with what they desire..... and it will happen, unfortunately, during our lifetimes.........
don't act surprised when it does......
google "nuclear terrorism" for a small taste of what will indeed be something we have to deal with in our lifetimes....
hell, there's even wiki pages devoted to it:
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Donker... why is it my job to back a conspiracy theory? The fukking government.... fed media outlets what to say. Questionable interviews that were done by the public were never aired twice. Why? Because these independent witnesses vantage points contradict what the government wanted to orchestrate to the public.
This isn't WWE Wrestling 100%. Real people died. But business will always trump human life. The govt. knows what they wanted to do. We'll never know the entire story. But if you believe 4 fukking planes can get passed our defense mechanisms.... on top of defense mechanisms... then you're a fool. All it takes is one person to "intentionally" not pay attention... to start the script. Who was that person? Who was in charge?
Furthermore... not everyone knows about a rig job. All it takes is one or 2 people. Everyone does their job as usual and you shut your mouth. That's how it's done. You're there witnessing everything... you question it in your head/mind per se... but you shut your mouth.
You talk about police in Pennsylvania or anywhere for that matter? Local authorities get involved... they do their job etc. But you always have higher authorities involved. Higher on top of higher etc. Once the lower authorities have done the basics.... their done... and the big boys come in. There's always a commander or someone higher who knows what's going on.
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No, I understand and am aware of the possibilities. There was even a major virus or something stolen from a underground secured lab few years back.
I thought you were saying anyone could've predicted 9/11 like Bill Cooper did. If you have a link I'd be glad to check it out.Comment -
There's change in the air, as a herd of mental midgets escaped their corral and stampeded into the 9/11 truther thread on SBR to usher in dire warnings of a new world order; a planet where serfs are terrorized by global government overlords and corrupt referees.Comment -
well, we know, with independent witness corroboration, what each and every "higher up" (gwbush, cheney, rumsfeld, rice, etc.) and the heads of each military element involved were doing, and dozens of their handlers, secret service protection, subordinates, etc., all gave minute by minute accts of their actions that day...........
all of it very well documented here:
so if not these "higher ups," then who????? who is the f'n puppetmaster of 9/11...... the ny jew? get real..... you can't name any "Big Boys" in this scenario.... and you sure as hell have not one shred of evidence of any such "Big Boys" planning this out to the detail it would require to get done.....
these bigboys must be good to have all these people so fooled....
one thing that is clearly evident from the fact gathering is the level of unpreparedness for these events, and the confusion at the highest levels as to what to do with hi-jacked airliners coming toward the nation's capitol, tho chaney and bush had no problem shooting them down.....
funny thing is, the "shoot em down" order wasn't even passed on to the Langley pilots in the air.......
tho another wing had such orders passed on and those were "hot"....
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Not one mention of the person I have mentioned several times either.
Aligning with truth requires a very rare ability for an individual to have a certain kind of humility.
I don't expect anyone here admitting to themselves that other people were right. The conditioning we have been victim to is impossible for some people to overcome. I haven't always felt the way I do, and I realize that I was wrong for not listening to other people's perspective and facts on certain issues.
To come to the realization that the people who we thought would have our best interests in mind are nothing but power, and control freaks is a very hard thing to accept.
Some people literally have no depth. They see things at face value, and will never be able to overcome the conditioning they have been subjected to. It would make them uncomplfortable, and it would make them fearful. So instead, they choose complete denial and call people who bring the truth to them 'conspiracy theorists'. They don't realize that the CIA and media gave this label to people who questioned the official narrative. This term became a very valuable tool used by the controllers to prevent people from speaking out, and was used to make people look stupid if they did. Obviously there are several people here who use the term loosely to discredit anything brought to the table, their only argument is calling someone a conspiracy theorist, rather than wondering why people are saying the things they are.
Cognitive dissonance.Last edited by sourtwist; 12-26-15, 02:56 PM.Comment -
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Snowball hit and ran
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I posted this today here
but nobody listened to it (link to post #368)
its ok we gotta concentrate on sports
this is a dog eat dog world.
911 was an inside job from day one i knew it.
OBL did nothing. No plane at the Pentagon 100%.
Norad shut down and planes rerouted 100%
No planes at all ? I mentally objected to that also
but now I'm becoming open to the idea. And yes
I remember the day and saw much live on tv.
I have a history degree and am somewhat of a conspiracy scholar
myself. I knew a guy who had a tuna fish he caught on one of the planes
it was sold to the Japanese. Just like all that physical evidence they destroyed
to stop a proper investigation from happening. It was shipped to Japan
for pennies on the dollar. Giant coverup. You got to spend years on this
to understand it not just a few hours.
Back to sports
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I sure as hell didnt spend years and I understand it just fine.Comment -
Also have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the tuna. Feel free to explain.Comment -
Snowball gets it. Literally nothing about the official story makes sense... to say there are holes in it doesn't even do it justice. The whole thing is one massive hole with little to no substance to buttress the false narrative. People love to throw the word "conspiracy theory" around as some half-assed attempt to marginalize anyone with a different conclusion about the events, but the truth is, we're dealing in conspiracy facts.
Nobody is going to be able to fill in every blank concerning the the who's, what's, why's and so forth... but it's quite obvious there was a cover up from start to finish. It's as if the sleeping masses demand every detail of the sham laid out in encyclopedic fashion or they'll conveniently defer to the official story. That's pretty ridiculous. If even one "official" nugget is a lie, then we have to question the whole thing. And the official story is riddled with lies. That is the conspiracy theory, and it's a bad one at that.Comment -
There was never 2.3 Trillion dollars missing, it was a misinterpreted quote made by Rumsfield. The fact it could "never be found" was because it wasn't in fact ever missing, rather unaccounted for, thanks to an outdated accounting system.
With that said, Zakheim is an interesting and well connected character. I've read his book about how Bush fukked up rebuilding Afghanistan. He's one hell of a strategistComment -
9/11
Planes were a diversion
Free energy used to make towers disappear into thin air, literally
Patriot act, take away our freedom... Much more involved, but most here would know what I mean
War with a CIA made AL qaeda, already blaming former CIA asset bin Laden, whose fam is also a member of the Carlisle group, along with Bush family, yes this is true
Marvin bush, former head of towers security
Larry silverstiein purchased towers which were known to have asbestos issues, made billions, the Jews and neocons all work together
Money disappeared, trillions
Dov zakheim previously stated that a new pearl Harbor would be necessary for American public to start a war in middle east...
Also, look up tridata Corp, he also had knowledge of the structural integrity of the buildings from his investigation of the '93 trade center bombing
There are literally dozens of facts that can be brought to the table showing that 9/11 was an inside job carried out by the CIA and Mossad. Ever hear of the dancing Israelis? There were people waiting to witness the event, and there is proof that people were told not to go to work that day.
This is the basic idea off the top of my head, I could go on all day.Comment -
That's a false dichotomy as there are a number of other explanations that could explain why the money was unaccounted for.
But at the end of the day, you and I both know, you're gonna believe what you want to, and I'm gonna believe what I want to. We're both smart guys with science degrees from big universities, we just see this in a different light.Comment -
Kraken, how was your Christmas?Comment -
The destruction of the Twin Towers via free energy technology is a very valid one. Dr. Judy Wood discusses that at length in her books and seminars. I personally believe that they were brought down using several means, none of which were jet fuel. There were definitely basement level bombs before the collapse. I'm not saying jets didn't crash into the towers, but that their impact and the burning fuel was not the cause of their collapse. That's the stuff of fiction.
People have to remember that military technology is at least 25 years ahead of what we see in the everyday civilian world. It's not like top level military scientists discover a cutting edge advancement, and then we can read about it in Popular Mechanics the following week. So when people compare a conventional demolition to the destruction of the Twin Towers and say it's not the same, well, they're probably right. The majority of the concrete and steel was literally converted into dust that blanketed ground zero, and it's surrounding area, for blocks. Much of the buildings just magically became dust. That is not jet fuel, or pancake collapse, or any other crock of shit the 9/11 Commission is willing to throw out there.Last edited by Eddy Munny; 12-26-15, 04:57 PM.Comment -
Fukking sucked, in laws x 2, sober, and they fukked up the dressing, put apples, phenol, onions and bacon in it
The fukk kind of dressing is that? Is too much to ask for some goddmaned turkey and american dressing?
Bunch of ISIS supporters up here.
The other in laws put out some chips and cheese, had some chili and that was it
At least they didn't appear to be trying
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How was yours SorurComment -
All that said, Donald Rumsfeld played an important role on 9/11. Being the controller of a military response, and one of only two people(I think) who can order a shoot down of a plane, he should have made himself more available that morning.
He also had an interesting conversation among his peers that morning during breakfast.Comment -
Here is a timeline Rumsfeld's morning which has been verifiedComment -
The free energy idea is something I have been most confused about, but judy wood lays out the facts plain and simple while supplying evidence, some of it through videos showing smoke coming out of the building, almost like a vacuum was pulling it out, while skipping windows that are open for the smoke to escape. There are videos as indisputable proof, which is obvious that you have seen.
There are firefighters and media people on that day, on video, asking where did the buildings go... There is even a photo of an ambulance on ground level that day where the towers stood.Comment -
Rumsfeld was a chief orchestrator, obviously. He ordered the NORAD stand down and never budged, even when it was known the planes were off course and hellbent on destruction. Fighter jets could have intercepted them with ease. It was a total sham.Comment -
Damn, sounds like they set up a false flag so you won't show up next year....Fukking sucked, in laws x 2, sober, and they fukked up the dressing, put apples, phenol, onions and bacon in it
The fukk kind of dressing is that? Is too much to ask for some goddmaned turkey and american dressing?
Bunch of ISIS supporters up here.
The other in laws put out some chips and cheese, had some chili and that was it
At least they didn't appear to be trying
I need to go back to Oklahoma, I'm bout to lose it up here with their apple dressing
Mine was good, nice day...food was good, but I drank a bottle of fireball and a 12 pack on Christmas eve so It took a while to shake that off.Comment -
Flight 11 and Flight 175 - strangely almost crash into each other
right above Steward Air Force Base... while Norad was down and being manipulated..
same base where Zackheim had Boeing 767 military aircraft.. this had to be intentional.
We should suspect the flights landed there and were either replaced with military aircraft
or were replaced with decoys (existing only in manipulated radars). The visual evidence
(since they destroyed ALL physical evidence with the planted nukes) can support either.
Passengers were gassed at Stewart and the planes quietly sent off to sink at an undisclosed
location.
witness said the plane "VANISHED RIGHT INTO THE BUILDING".
It "just disappeared" INTO the building. (ala Project Blue Beam)
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Snowball, when I first read about that a while back, I couldn't believe it.Comment -
I'm reaching out with an olive branch here in an attempt at a peace treaty with the 9/11 truthers
I'm willing to admit I don't know what happened, and maybe our gov't was involved, if ya'll are willing to meet me halfway and admit that none of ya'll know what happened either, and maybe our gov't wasn't involved.
Let's be honest, none of us KNOW shit. We're all being fed information, re-read that. WE'RE ALL BEING FED INFORMATION. You all aren't anymore enlightened than us, and we're not less ignorant than yall. I say ignorant because none of us know anything other than what we read from someone else.
For every 9/11 conspiracy theory, is a debunked 9/11 conspiracy theory. For every 10 scientists, engineers, pilots and physcists that say two planes could not have brought down the towers as they did, there are 10 of each saying the exact opposite.
SO MEET ME HALF WAY AND ADMIT YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!Comment
