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  • bigloser
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-19-06
    • 787

    #246
    Originally posted by JimmyG
    I played with the place at the time too and it concerned me there were people trying to find angles to beat the system. I had money there and I pulled it out knowing 'scumbags' out there were trying to manipulate the system.
    Wagerweb clearly have similar system problems. Probably best for everyone to pull their money away from there until we can be sure those systems have been fixed
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    • JimmyG
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-31-07
      • 135

      #247
      Im more concerned with having my money at the books not catchin these guys.

      You never heard of betonstars, action bets etc throwing out bonus scammers ...

      I wonder why?

      Perhaps, they went out of business because they werent catchin them.

      Just a thought.
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      • Bill Dozer
        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
        • 07-12-05
        • 10894

        #248
        We're going to ask the Wagerweb employees not to post here as players. Thanks
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        • robmpink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #249
          Originally posted by WagerWeb SUCKS!!
          Rob, it is difficult for me to understand your passion for this situation. I can understand my 42,000 reasons, but you seem really upset....................I would almost say you are more passionate about this than I am..........seems strange...
          Hey, I give 110% in everything I do.
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          • Lucas
            SBR MVP
            • 12-20-05
            • 1062

            #250
            Originally posted by Bill Dozer
            We're going to ask the Wagerweb employees not to post here as players. Thanks
            i think this soooo unethical, i know betfair did this on another forum; i do not trust to any company doing this even with A+++++

            so we have a player who took a shot at a book and book that took shot to a player; now player is making ghosts and WW is doing the same

            i hope i will not deal with anyone who is involved
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            • bigloser
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-19-06
              • 787

              #251
              Originally posted by JimmyG
              Im more concerned with having my money at the books not catchin these guys.
              They didnt catch him, 70 bets is far too long. Really poor systems
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              • bigloser
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-19-06
                • 787

                #252
                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                We're going to ask the Wagerweb employees not to post here as players. Thanks
                Why? it was fun listening to the bullshit
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                • SBR Lou
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-02-07
                  • 37863

                  #253
                  That's unfortunate.

                  Not to compare cases, but if we look at how other books have handled matters that came to the forum and caused a stir, and what happened here I think that speaks volumes about the management.

                  I'd much rather see WW step up, even if it means disputing this further at least bring a representative here officially to speak their mind, not have employees posing as players. Not a good way to start the new year for them.
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                  • Rand790
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-31-07
                    • 158

                    #254
                    Wow! This shows you how pathetic WagerWeb really is..........hope they are enjoying all of this free publicity.

                    IF SBR thinks I am correct and they do work with every sportsbook in the planet - I have to think WAGERWEB is really damaging themselves.........................
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                    • Santo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-08-05
                      • 2957

                      #255
                      SBR is split, it would seem. Much like me, I can see both sides of this one, and would probably suggest some kind of compromise in the middle, which it seems Justin tried.
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                      • robmpink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-09-07
                        • 13205

                        #256
                        Hopefully a MOD could answer this. WW was already downgraded. I asked if WW came up with a settlement would their rating be changed back ASAP. It seemed like this was never answered. If the rating wouldn't be adjusted ASAP, why pay Eric? He took a shot and the book did it back.
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                        • SBR Lou
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-02-07
                          • 37863

                          #257
                          Originally posted by robmpink
                          I asked if WW came up with a settlement would their rating be changed back ASAP. It seemed like this was never answered. If the rating wouldn't be adjusted ASAP, why pay Eric? He took a shot and the book did it back.
                          Because paying is the right thing to do. He was even willing to settle for less. I'm just speculating, but I'd imagine WW wouldn't be instantly credited for resolving this case. Their rating would probably be reevaluated in the future the same as any other book.
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                          • JimmyG
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 12-31-07
                            • 135

                            #258
                            I'm being pegged a WW employee because I have an opinion on the case? An opinion that makes logical sense rather than half the posters here with agendas.

                            Check the IP's....Im sure the mods can. I dont work and have never been employed by WW.
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                            • acw
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-29-05
                              • 576

                              #259
                              Originally posted by Lucas
                              i think this soooo unethical, i know betfair did this on another forum; i do not trust to any company doing this even with A+++++
                              Do you have a link?
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                              • 20Four7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-08-07
                                • 6703

                                #260
                                I find it interesting in all these cases it seems 4 or 5 "new" accounts come in, only post in this thread then once the case is resolved one way or the other none come back.
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                                • Rand790
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-31-07
                                  • 158

                                  #261
                                  Just want to keep this fresh on the board................

                                  KEEP AWAY FROM WAGERWEB.........................

                                  I hope this will help some new guy looking for a new sportsbook - don't send your money here - go to an A or B rated sportsbook by SBR...........
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                                  • Rand790
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-31-07
                                    • 158

                                    #262
                                    Rob, think about it.......................take a look at Bill Dozer's posts - this guy has been nothing but professional and kind to WagerWeb and three times he stayed late at work on the PROMISE that WagerWeb was going to make a settlement on this situation and ALL THREE times WAGERWEB never called him back - Dozer isn't dealing with the $5.00 an hour clerks who aren't trained properly to take live bets. He is dealing with WAGERWEB management.

                                    Forget this case for a second........................do you think the guy (Dozer) who is responsible for grading sportsbooks is going to be in any kind of rush to upgrade WagerWeb...........if I had to guess, you are one of the WagerWeb clowns who is causing your organization the worst publicity in your company's history. Why don't you just call Bill tomorrow and ask him...........I am sure he will take your call and/or reply to your email. He always does..........unlike WagerWeb management.
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                                    • Lucas
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-20-05
                                      • 1062

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by acw
                                      Do you have a link?
                                      yes,
                                      unfortunatelly it is czech forum, plus it is personal link, so i am not sure about sbr policy (edit it if necessary)

                                      guy called "bimas" came as a player and put shit on all other bookies, i remember pinnacle he hated most; later he contacted me with another nick with affiliate offer which i refused, because i hate dominance of betfair in europe and how they abuse it in raising comissions

                                      later bimbas was posting something that was only in my private correspondence with the other nick, so he was revealed, but he confirmed the fact only because he thought we have IP check /we do not have it at all / and he told he just wants to help people
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                                      • luke m.
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 05-14-07
                                        • 39

                                        #264
                                        Wagerweb sucks, I totally agree with you on this thread because they ****ed me for over $11,000! These guys try and find technicalities not to pay people like lawyers practice law in a courtroom!
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                                        • Rand790
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-31-07
                                          • 158

                                          #265
                                          Wow! I hate to hear they screwed you also.....................Can't believe this kind of sportsbook exists. Was SBR able to help you...........I have been nothing but pleased with SBR, although I haven't got a penny from WAGERWEB, I know that Justin and Bill Dozer have tried very hard to work with what appears to be a unreasonable and unprofessional sportsbook. Dropping their rating to a "C" has really hurt them - certainly, they would never admit it, but anybody with any intelligence that is looking for a new sportsbook is not going to select a "C" graded or below sportsbook.
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                                          • Rand790
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 12-31-07
                                            • 158

                                            #266
                                            Lucas, where in Europe are you located? Just curious.....
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                                            • Lucas
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-20-05
                                              • 1062

                                              #267
                                              czech, brno recently
                                              my friend has also problem with wagerweb, i suggest not to go on public with it, justin is solving it too i think
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                                              • luke m.
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 05-14-07
                                                • 39

                                                #268
                                                Wagerweb Sucks, your actually lucky that you got your original deposit back because they absorbed my original 5k also along with the winnings! I guess now they are giving original deposits back without the winnings for pr purposes!
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                                                • Rand790
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 12-31-07
                                                  • 158

                                                  #269
                                                  Lucas, Czech is beautiful - I have been there before - loved it. Hope you friend has better luck than I did with his problem with WAGERWEB.

                                                  Luke, I can't believe they didn't give you your original deposit back - or maybe I do?

                                                  What I really can't believe is that WagerWeb management allows this to go on ----- and it isn't going to stop anytime soon. I wonder who owns this sportsbook - I wish I knew - I wonder if they have seen these threads?
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                                                  • SBR Lou
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-02-07
                                                    • 37863

                                                    #270
                                                    That was an interesting forum, Lucas.

                                                    I could not make out all the words but I think I was following the discussion, citace means quote, right? Then I'd follow along when people would type the name of a book.
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                                                    • Lucas
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-20-05
                                                      • 1062

                                                      #271
                                                      LOL
                                                      you got it,
                                                      this is online translator http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml, but czech is hard language, so many words are misspelled, therefore i am not sure if the translator actually helps
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                                                      • horseplayer69
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 12-14-07
                                                        • 73

                                                        #272
                                                        WWSUCKS,

                                                        Buddy your posting in forums and yelling in screaming not going to do much for you..Wagerweb feels justified not paying you and Justin, and a few posters are on the same page..If anything now since its playoffs, bowlgames ect there not feeling your pain at all..ITS FINISH END OF STORY THERE NOT GOING TO PAY YOU ! BUT THEY JUST MIGHT IF

                                                        Getting nasty real nasty is the only way..You need to make a website then pound the forums..You need a gang of thungs calliing this sportsbook..You need the power of the people to ever get any of your money..its sad yes but don't sit on the toilet crying..Get evil
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                                                        • acw
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-29-05
                                                          • 576

                                                          #273
                                                          Originally posted by Lucas
                                                          later he contacted me with another nick with affiliate offer which i refused,
                                                          It is BetFair's attempt in getting more customers by also "employing" agents. Big problem is that they only give a fraction of the commission that other books give.

                                                          because i hate dominance of betfair in europe and how they abuse it in raising comissions
                                                          To me I can only describe them in one way: A waste of time!
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                                                          • Rand790
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 12-31-07
                                                            • 158

                                                            #274
                                                            Avoid WAGERWEB
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                                                            • Rand790
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-31-07
                                                              • 158

                                                              #275
                                                              Never send this sportsbook ANY of your money - they will steal it.
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                                                              • Shark79
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-19-07
                                                                • 11211

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by WagerWeb SUCKS!!
                                                                Never send this sportsbook ANY of your money - they will steal it.
                                                                I just deposited
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                                                                • robmpink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-09-07
                                                                  • 13205

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by WagerWeb SUCKS!!
                                                                  Rob, think about it.......................take a look at Bill Dozer's posts - this guy has been nothing but professional and kind to WagerWeb and three times he stayed late at work on the PROMISE that WagerWeb was going to make a settlement on this situation and ALL THREE times WAGERWEB never called him back - Dozer isn't dealing with the $5.00 an hour clerks who aren't trained properly to take live bets. He is dealing with WAGERWEB management.

                                                                  Forget this case for a second........................do you think the guy (Dozer) who is responsible for grading sportsbooks is going to be in any kind of rush to upgrade WagerWeb...........if I had to guess, you are one of the WagerWeb clowns who is causing your organization the worst publicity in your company's history. Why don't you just call Bill tomorrow and ask him...........I am sure he will take your call and/or reply to your email. He always does..........unlike WagerWeb management.

                                                                  You are the clown for leaving $33,000 or whatever in the account while you proceeded to exploit the loop hole in their system. If you had any brain, you would have made small withdrawls 3 times a week. You got yourself caught and because of your stupidity/greed, you probably won't see anything.
                                                                  Additionally, I wouldn't consider this the "worst publicity." The forum is roughly split on the situation. Either way, I don't care if you get paid or not. At the very least you maybe could learn a lesson and not be so dumb next time you exploit a book.

                                                                  Where's Eric Dye been of late?
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                                                                  • robmpink
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-09-07
                                                                    • 13205

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by Shark79
                                                                    I just deposited
                                                                    HAHAHAH, me too!

                                                                    Christ, because of this clown 1st halves are off the board exactly at the sceduled start even if it eventually starts 10 minutes later.
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                                                                    • horseplayer69
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 12-14-07
                                                                      • 73

                                                                      #279
                                                                      WWSUCKS,

                                                                      You took a shot and won and then lost..Now either you live with what happen or you don't !

                                                                      I'm sure there is enough gamblers that can help you bring down wagerweb.com its not going to happen posting like you have.
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                                                                      • Shark79
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-19-07
                                                                        • 11211

                                                                        #280
                                                                        The guys an idiot ... robmpink is right ! If the dude had any brains he would of kept the loop active for many years if he would of made proper withdrawals on a weekly basis ... but he got greedy and screwed himself for it ... I personally am not in favor of him or the book ... but he was a shot taker and for it he deserves the outcome ... next time you find a loop ... make sure u use it wisely !
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