Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

**Goat Milk** · 07-08-20, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

The time to get into TSLA was last week at $900. At $1400 now, it’s still going to go up but the value isn’t as good was a week ago. There’s other EVs out there that are gonna be good plays in the future that can make you more than Tesla. I just made a grand on AYRO this week alone and FUV gonna climb too.

Nice. Even those companies like AYRO and stuff will sink when the big boys come out to play. That's less than 2 years from now, imo. No one is gonna be buying trucks from Nikola when Merdedes BMW Ford Toyota everyone starts just doing the same thing. Those companies have much better designers and engineers.

**navyblue81** · 07-08-20, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

Nice. Even those companies like AYRO and stuff will sink when the big boys come out to play. That's less than 2 years from now, imo. No one is gonna be buying trucks from Nikola when Merdedes BMW Ford Toyota everyone starts just doing the same thing. Those companies have much better designers and engineers.

Oh yeah. I'm not holding on to it. But they're great one or two-week plays. I just go from one EV stock to another. Already researching the next $2 EV stock to buy. But it's a trend right now. These EVs are starting low and growing. Saw it with WKHS, BLNK, AYRO, SOLO, FUV, and it's going to continue. It's a great opportunity to make some $$$ right now.

**trobin31** · 07-08-20, 09:06 PM

I’m gonna say this one last time so maybe you Tards can understand. Tesla is an energy company. It’s solar, battery, chips, AI, clean energy which will be translated to every facet of your lives in future. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. But don’t justify your stance of not buying by saying it’s not worth the price. Just say, I don’t understand.

**Goat Milk** · 07-08-20, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by trobin31

I’m gonna say this one last time so maybe you Tards can understand. Tesla is an energy company. It’s solar, battery, chips, AI, clean energy which will be translated to every facet of your lives in future. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. But don’t justify your stance of not buying by saying it’s not worth the price. Just say, I don’t understand.

All of that stuff you mentioned, and has never been profitable. Tesla is a great company, but it's overavalued. There are companies that have been working on clean energy triple the amount of time Tesla's been in business, and they are trading under 5 bucks. Tesla is. not simply going to take over all of the fields you mentioned.

Time will tell.

Elon Musk himself has laughed at Tesla's stock price -- several times...

Enough said.

**trobin31** · 07-08-20, 10:48 PM

**trobin31** · 07-08-20, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

All of that stuff you mentioned, and has never been profitable. Tesla is a great company, but it's overavalued. There are companies that have been working on clean energy triple the amount of time Tesla's been in business, and they are trading under 5 bucks. Tesla is. not simply going to take over all of the fields you mentioned.

Time will tell.

Elon Musk himself has laughed at Tesla's stock price -- several times...

Enough said.

Last week you said it was overpriced, now up 20%, wtf will you say next year or in 5 years when the price is 200-500%? you don't understand its okay bro, enough said.

**Goat Milk** · 07-09-20, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

Last week you said it was overpriced, now up 20%, wtf will you say next year or in 5 years when the price is 200-500%? you don't understand its okay bro, enough said.

500% in 5 years? Lmao ok bro. Teh stock that was 200 bucks a several months back, is gonna be trading for 10,000 a share in 5 years. Right.

**dlowilly** · 07-09-20, 07:49 AM

Carnival (CCL) announced it's starting up cruises again on Aug.5 with it's Germany based cruise line AIDA

CCL up ~4.5% in early hours trading

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 08:20 AM

AYRO with some good news this morning. Looks like it’s continuing its climb.

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Oh yeah. I'm not holding on to it. But they're great one or two-week plays. I just go from one EV stock to another. Already researching the next $2 EV stock to buy. But it's a trend right now. These EVs are starting low and growing. Saw it with WKHS, BLNK, AYRO, SOLO, FUV, and it's going to continue. It's a great opportunity to make some $$$ right now.

still say you should of bought nio. ev company backed by china

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

Last week you said it was overpriced, now up 20%, wtf will you say next year or in 5 years when the price is 200-500%? you don't understand its okay bro, enough said.

my cousin and her husband just moved to fla to work for musk. i think it had to do with solar.

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 09:15 AM

funny nio is fighting tesla for asian market

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Twitter is a good buy.

You can't tell me that Facebook's market cap should be 25x Twitter.

fb has no debt. sitting on billions of dollar. owns whatsapp that they don't monetize. instagram,oculus vr,masquarade sp,whale,gphy and aux for canadian users. it will be 1000 a shere by 2030

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

Last week you said it was overpriced, now up 20%, wtf will you say next year or in 5 years when the price is 200-500%? you don't understand its okay bro, enough said.

i would love to own tesla. when stocks shit the bed in oct i will try to buy.

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

still say you should of bought nio. ev company backed by china

Ratings threw me off on it when I did research. Lot of sell ratings on it. I know that’s not everything but when you’re torn on what stocks to buy it can play a factor. I still think there’s a lot of good EV boys out there. FUV s dip today has me getting hungry. Screwed up not getting into NKlA at the $40 dip on Monday. FCEL also could be a good play for the EV industry.

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 09:56 AM

Great dip on PLUg. Unfortunately I have it at 9.50 but it is a $10+ stock. At 8.60 it’s a steal.

Stocks taking a pounding today. I'm red across the board. It's ugly. One of those days where I put the phone away and don't check stocks.

**trobin31** · 07-09-20, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

my cousin and her husband just moved to fla to work for musk. i think it had to do with solar.

People don’t understand the scaling of Tesla energy, they thinks it’s a car company. It’s an energy conglomerate, they will transform energy systems world wide. They have been scaling for decades and will be the leader once zero emissions is fully implemented. I think people gave same arguments for Amazon, yeah everything will be sold online, but, there are so many companies that will be doing it..blah blah blah. The problem is you have to scale, place revenue back into scaling further, until your tentacles are in every orifice. Cash flows have not been there just yet, and yes by that metric they are trading above fair value but there are people who can see into the future that goes beyond what’s written on balance sheets. If I told you I could sell you the rights to Einstein theories of relativity in the 1920s, how much would those be worth? Even though no profit was available at the time? How much could I sell you knowledge of Watson-crick DNA base pairing ?? The answer is...these are invaluable, life and world changing technology can’t be calculated by any normal means of valuation when the applicability to everyday life will be priceless.

**pavyracer** · 07-09-20, 10:44 AM

‘The wave has already begun:’ Evictions surge as cities suspend moratoriums

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-wave-has-already-begun-evictions-surge-as-cities-suspend-moratorium-142522540.html

Legal aid groups and housing advocates are bracing for a surge in evictions, as local governments begin lifting moratoriums that deferred rent payments for millions of tenants who lost jobs to the pandemic.

It will get ugly with stocks this month. I told you about it last month.

**Slurry Pumper** · 07-09-20, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-w...142522540.html

It will get ugly with stocks this month. I told you about it last month.

I'm with ya.
Hey gold is down today so may be a good time to buy the dip.

**Slurry Pumper** · 07-09-20, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

People don’t understand the scaling of Tesla energy, they thinks it’s a car company. It’s an energy conglomerate, they will transform energy systems world wide. They have been scaling for decades and will be the leader once zero emissions is fully implemented. I think people gave same arguments for Amazon, yeah everything will be sold online, but, there are so many companies that will be doing it..blah blah blah. The problem is you have to scale, place revenue back into scaling further, until your tentacles are in every orifice. Cash flows have not been there just yet, and yes by that metric they are trading above fair value but there are people who can see into the future that goes beyond what’s written on balance sheets. If I told you I could sell you the rights to Einstein theories of relativity in the 1920s, how much would those be worth? Even though no profit was available at the time? How much could I sell you knowledge of Watson-crick DNA base pairing ?? The answer is...these are invaluable, life and world changing technology can’t be calculated by any normal means of valuation when the applicability to everyday life will be priceless.

I see your point and in this day and age, companies invest as little as possible in new technologies to actually grow the business. They usually buy their own stock and decrease the shares available on the open market which makes the stock price go up. Elon has the best of both worlds going on now, few stock shares to sell and investment into the technology needed to grow for the future. I'm still not at the point where I'm ready to buy yet because all of the FANG and I guess now the FANGMAN are all safe havens for the market. There will be a reversal back to the norm and I'll first short them all on the way down, then buy them when they get to the bottom.

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-w...142522540.html

It will get ugly with stocks this month. I told you about it last month.

Still good dips to take advantage of even with a down market. Just need to pick your days wisely. Buy smart and sell smart. Makes for more sitting on the sideline while getting in on big dips and then selling with a profit.

**pavyracer** · 07-09-20, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Still good dips to take advantage of even with a down market. Just need to pick your days wisely. Buy smart and sell smart. Makes for more sitting on the sideline while getting in on big dips and then selling with a profit.

Oh I'm sitting on the sideline with cash right now. But I'm not pulling the trigger on day trades.

**Madison** · 07-09-20, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-w...142522540.html

It will get ugly with stocks this month. I told you about it last month.

Unemployment, $600 possibly going away, Covid, and on and on. I've been predicting a dilemma for months. Banks already increasing their loan/loss reserves.

I'm old and can't multitask like I used to but I thought I saw this morning that ~32% of folks didn't pay their rent/loan obligations last month.

**Madison** · 07-09-20, 11:40 AM

Anyone care to offer an opinion on LMT Lockheed? I don't see international tensions easing in what's left of my lifetime. Chart looks OK.

Appreciated.

**Slurry Pumper** · 07-09-20, 11:40 AM

Buying half of my LMT shares back today to log a quick 1 day trade while allowing the rest to run. This trade is getting to the end and I need to book some profits for the months. After it snaps back in the next couple of days I may put the short play back on.

DATE	TIME	STOCK TICKER	SHARES	BEGIN BUY/SELL PRICE	TOTAL IN PLAY	SET STOP LOSS PRICE	ALLOWABLE LOSS TOTAL	ALLOW LOSS % TOTAL	TODAY'S CLOSE/END PRICE	GAIN/LOSS SO FAR	END SHARES	END BUY/SELL PRICE	END GAIN/LOSS	END % GAIN/LOSS	TOTAL GAIN/LOSS	TOTAL % GAIN/LOSS
06/24/20	14.14.54	LMT	-100	360.10	36,010.00	368.47	-837.00	-2.32%	350.23	987.00
07/08/20	11.06.01	LMT	-100	350.23	35,023.00	368.47	-1,824.00	-5.21%	350.23	0.00	100	342.48	775.00	2.21%	775.00	2.21%

**Slurry Pumper** · 07-09-20, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Madison

Anyone care to offer an opinion on LMT Lockheed? I don't see international tensions easing in what's left of my lifetime. Chart looks OK.

Appreciated.

This chart is nearing a long term short play end, and I expect to pick it up long here in the next couple of weeks after the short play is totally done.

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Madison

Unemployment, $600 possibly going away, Covid, and on and on. I've been predicting a dilemma for months. Banks already increasing their loan/loss reserves.

I'm old and can't multitask like I used to but I thought I saw this morning that ~32% of folks didn't pay their rent/loan obligations last month.

Anyone who thinks this COVID story is going to go away is dreaming. Worried it’s on the boiling point of getting out of control again. Already is in the South. That moves back up North and we have another crisis on our hands. And it’s not even fall yet.

It’s hard bc if things shut back down, the economy is going to tank again and already fragile businesses will go under. I am thinking of just taking everything out until a vaccine is in place. Were borderline trouble right now.

**d2bets** · 07-09-20, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Anyone who thinks this COVID story is going to go away is dreaming. Worried it’s on the boiling point of getting out of control again. Already is in the South. That moves back up North and we have another crisis on our hands. And it’s not even fall yet.

It’s hard bc if things shut back down, the economy is going to tank again and already fragile businesses will go under. I am thinking of just taking everything out until a vaccine is in place. Were borderline trouble right now.

But then we get to have another 3 trillion stimulus. Or 10 trillion. Or 99 googleillion.

**pavyracer** · 07-09-20, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Anyone who thinks this COVID story is going to go away is dreaming. Worried it’s on the boiling point of getting out of control again. Already is in the South. That moves back up North and we have another crisis on our hands. And it’s not even fall yet.

It’s hard bc if things shut back down, the economy is going to tank again and already fragile businesses will go under. I am thinking of just taking everything out until a vaccine is in place. Were borderline trouble right now.

Good idea. I read an article around Memorial Day from one of the experts and he said the stockmarket would go up another 10-15% up in the summer before it hit the March lows in the Fall. So far he has been spot on.

**navyblue81** · 07-09-20, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

But then we get to have another 3 trillion stimulus. Or 10 trillion. Or 99 googleillion.

Great. Drive our national debt up more. I mean, it’s only money.

**chico2663** · 07-09-20, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Anyone who thinks this COVID story is going to go away is dreaming. Worried it’s on the boiling point of getting out of control again. Already is in the South. That moves back up North and we have another crisis on our hands. And it’s not even fall yet.

It’s hard bc if things shut back down, the economy is going to tank again and already fragile businesses will go under. I am thinking of just taking everything out until a vaccine is in place. Were borderline trouble right now.

covid is horrible here/ had to get my meds at walmart and some white trash coughed by me. Had my mask on but didn't wash face when i got home. Last 3 days been feeling this shit. Feels like i had 20 shots to the ribs in boxing. been in jacuzzi bath at least 3 times a day.praying it just is regular flu. funny if i get taking out by a guy with a maga hat at walmart.

**Madison** · 07-09-20, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by Slurry Pumper

This chart is nearing a long term short play end, and I expect to pick it up long here in the next couple of weeks after the short play is totally done.

This is a little clearer for a layman like me. LOL. So, ok to dip my toes into the water long?

Thanks for your input!

**Madison** · 07-09-20, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Anyone who thinks this COVID story is going to go away is dreaming. Worried it’s on the boiling point of getting out of control again. Already is in the South. That moves back up North and we have another crisis on our hands. And it’s not even fall yet.

It’s hard bc if things shut back down, the economy is going to tank again and already fragile businesses will go under. I am thinking of just taking everything out until a vaccine is in place. Were borderline trouble right now.

Certainly mostly agree. I've timed the market (long term) pretty well over the years, however I did underestimate fiscal stimulus in 2010+, so cautious of fed stimulus but tend to agree.

I posted in March about the heat and humidity effect (or not). Well, I've been pretty much been right about possible lack of.

So, all in all, I'm in agreement short BIO coming up with a miracle we are far from the finish line with this virus.

**Slurry Pumper** · 07-09-20, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Madison

This is a little clearer for a layman like me. LOL. So, ok to dip my toes into the water long?

Thanks for your input!

No this is still a short play and it just broke down today. I suspect that in the next couple of days it will rise in price, don't be fooled this is probably just a snap back for another leg down. Then again, the oversold condition may be turning around although they rarely happen right after a break down condition. Either way I wouldn't go long for atleast a week just to see some confirmation that the stock is ready for a long term long play.

**KVB** · 07-09-20, 01:25 PM

Stimulus, Stimulus, Stimulus.

Don't underestimate the Fed this time, congress isn't done borrowing, or in other words, creating money.

We are clearly rangebound, but many of us knew that last week, reality setting in could be a long ways off.