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  • milwaukee mike
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-22-07
    • 26914

    #4586
    Originally posted by Snowball
    bought
    good timing on that but you only bought 1?

    i thought you were big time!
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    • Iona
      SBR MVP
      • 01-08-10
      • 4244

      #4587
      Earnings after the close today:


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      • Iona
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-10
        • 4244

        #4588
        Originally posted by Snowball
        bought
        Fasten your seatbelt; I have a feeling the triple Q's will have a huge trading range over the next three (3) months.

        BOL with the position..

        Full disclosure: I am short QQQ @ 225 1/2
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        • chico2663
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-02-10
          • 36915

          #4589
          Originally posted by navyblue81
          I have money in Moderna so hoping for good news. It honestly could go either way. Some are saying it could split up to 120 within the next week or so, which would be a 40% spike while others say it could drop back down to 50 or 60. So holding my chips hoping for good news.
          Gilead dropped 10 bucks in a week after hcq was proved a dog.
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          • homie1975
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-24-13
            • 15452

            #4590
            Originally posted by grease lightnin
            Cases are trending up in GA last 3 days... will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings.
            look at MD and VA also, both over 1200 new cases today. is it because of more testing or is it because the virus is still spreading rapidly? there are two ways to spin it LOL
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15452

              #4591
              Originally posted by Iona
              Fasten your seatbelt; I have a feeling the triple Q's will have a huge trading range over the next three (3) months.

              BOL with the position..

              Full disclosure: I am short QQQ @ 225 1/2
              i am long QQQ with hundreds of shares at $198 cost base

              GO GO GO
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              • d2bets
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 39994

                #4592
                Originally posted by homie1975
                look at MD and VA also, both over 1200 new cases today. is it because of more testing or is it because the virus is still spreading rapidly? there are two ways to spin it LOL
                What is the trend in the positivity rate there? If it's going down considerably then it's just a function of more testing.
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                • navyblue81
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-29-13
                  • 4143

                  #4593
                  Originally posted by chico2663
                  Gilead dropped 10 bucks in a week after hcq was proved a dog.
                  Moderna a train wreck today. Morgan Stanley can go to hell with his predictions.
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                  • homie1975
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-24-13
                    • 15452

                    #4594
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    What is the trend in the positivity rate there? If it's going down considerably then it's just a function of more testing.
                    IDK Bud, did not check
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                    • Iona
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-10
                      • 4244

                      #4595
                      Earning before the bell tomorrow:

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                      • Iona
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-08-10
                        • 4244

                        #4596
                        Originally posted by homie1975
                        i am long QQQ with hundreds of shares at $198 cost base

                        GO GO GO
                        Nice going on the long QQQ @ 198; hat tip, Homie1975.

                        I sold a 121 Put (expires next Friday) today against my 100 share short position (pocketed a small premium). I just think this market is "Frothy" - just my 2 cents :-)

                        As always, BOL. More importantly, stay healthy.
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #4597
                          Going to think outloud for a couple of posts...

                          News all excited because crude having its "best month ever"…lol.

                          WalMart is reporting great numbers. We were fortunate here that many smaller grocery and other stores stayed open and not much really shutdown even if people did.

                          But some parts of the country weren’t so fortunate and when the people needed something, some areas had WalMart, HomeDepot, Lowes, and Target while all others were for forced to close.

                          So the government handed money out to the people and they spent it at the above stores and online, buying stuff from them and on Amazon. Remember so much of this stuff made in China.

                          If those consumers spent some of the money they gave the people, then that money basically trickled its way back to the Chinese economy.

                          Unreal
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #4598
                            So in 2016 Trump's victory and Senate results were considered good for the markets and when he followed through with tax cuts, regulation easing, etc., the markets continued to respond, recovering from any large dips and even a boom.

                            It's largely believed that had Trump lost then the Democratic agenda would have tapered the markets or at the very least not been as successful for most of the equities.

                            Now though, the markets are have built in the idea of more stimulus coming, with Dems hoping to prop things up until metrics like unemployment get back to pre-pandemic levels and the Republicans on hold with it all.

                            Now we don’t how bad things will be, how many industries, companies, etc. just might disappear, and we know that Republicans do want to help businesses here with stimules, They are not just calling everything off. We also know that Dems will hand out stimulus with conditions that will rival restrictions, etc. that the 2016 election avoided.

                            Those conditions laid out, what about the markets?

                            With the markets counting in stimulus and future stimulus so much, just as Goldman, Is it possible that it might actually be good for the markets if the Dems win?

                            The promise of continued aid throughout and even after it’s declared “over” with a “vaccine” or whatever, would keep the markets afloat by itself. The republicans might fight that and not pass that kind of ongoing legislation.

                            If it all does catch up to us, and we have terrible employment and numbers heading into next year, and industries don’t recover, and unemployment stays way up there, then it seems that the market could have the exact opposite response to election results as it did in 2016.

                            That’s a bunch of “if’s” in a fluid situation, but will any of them be revealed by election time?

                            I’m just thinking out loud here.
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                            • Snowball
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 11-15-09
                              • 30047

                              #4599
                              KVB -I'm planning on sitting out next week altogether. It's all political now. McConnell and most Reps will not want to give most of the Heroes Act, but they will, eventually, give states aid, more corporate and probably some personal - but nobody knows how much or when.
                              The Senate won't decide this next week. They won't come back for real sessions until June 1. It is quite possible the market trades down next week. Still, any news of expectations or comments would keep it from going down under the trading range. So it could go down 1-3%.

                              Much better to wait for the Senate to have their debates and then announce the form of the stimulus. We know "opening" is NOT anything like before. The whole market has written off earnings and bad data for the next 6-9 months. It's ridiculous. What if the GOP wants to wait, and they just do state aid and some pet projects, but no more free gummint checks for some time ? I think Trump and McConnell know they have to save some powder for the fall when it counts more.
                              Last edited by Snowball; 05-21-20, 04:56 PM.
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39994

                                #4600
                                Originally posted by Snowball
                                KVB -I'm planning on sitting out next week altogether. It's all political now. McConnell and most Reps will not want to give most of the Heroes Act, but they will, eventually, give states aid, more corporate and probably some personal - but nobody knows how much or when.
                                The Senate won't decide this next week. They won't come back for real sessions until June 1. It is quite possible the market trades down next week. Still, any news of expectations or comments would keep it from going down under the trading range. So it could go down 1-3%.

                                Much better to wait for the Senate to have their debates and then announce the form of the stimulus. We know "opening" is NOT anything like before. The whole market has written off earnings and bad data for the next 6-9 months. It's ridiculous. What if the GOP wants to wait, and they just do state aid and some pet projects, but no more free gummint checks for some time ? I think Trump and McConnell know they have to save some powder for the fall when it counts more.
                                But the "powder" is endless, dontchaknow?
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                                • Slurry Pumper
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-18-18
                                  • 2811

                                  #4601
                                  Yeah today was just a little drifting to the downside so they can bring it back tomorrow and go into the holiday right at the top of the trading range. Then on Tuesday next week watch for the I-beam of bullshit chart on the S&P to continue. At some point the market will break down, it has to. The earnings are shit, half of the small businesses aren't going to come back, shit loads of people on unemployment. With that said, it really looks like the FED will prop up the market until we at least break out of this trading range to the upside. Eventually, the Fed will give the money to the banks so that they can buy their own stock or make a profit somehow without doing anything. Then the industrial stocks will come to play and we will be off to the races for a little while and just when everybody gets into the market, the bottom will fall out and we'll drop like we did in March. Everybody thinks the China Syndrome was the cause of the downturn, and I say it was just the catalyst. The QE for the last 12 years was starting to catch up finally and the market needed to correct.
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                                  • CanuckG
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-23-10
                                    • 21978

                                    #4602
                                    In for 1000 shares on PENN (900 on this account) at around $16 a week ago. How long do we hold? Don't want to get greedy as I'm up almost 12k USD so far. Casinos are slowly reopening and sports will resume eventually. Also have $BYD (downtown vegas casinos should be okay) and $CHR.TO (really like them)

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                                    • Goat Milk
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-24-10
                                      • 25850

                                      #4603
                                      Penn way overvalued, would get out asap
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • chico2663
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-02-10
                                        • 36915

                                        #4604
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        So in 2016 Trump's victory and Senate results were considered good for the markets and when he followed through with tax cuts, regulation easing, etc., the markets continued to respond, recovering from any large dips and even a boom.

                                        It's largely believed that had Trump lost then the Democratic agenda would have tapered the markets or at the very least not been as successful for most of the equities.

                                        Now though, the markets are have built in the idea of more stimulus coming, with Dems hoping to prop things up until metrics like unemployment get back to pre-pandemic levels and the Republicans on hold with it all.

                                        Now we don’t how bad things will be, how many industries, companies, etc. just might disappear, and we know that Republicans do want to help businesses here with stimules, They are not just calling everything off. We also know that Dems will hand out stimulus with conditions that will rival restrictions, etc. that the 2016 election avoided.

                                        Those conditions laid out, what about the markets?

                                        With the markets counting in stimulus and future stimulus so much, just as Goldman, Is it possible that it might actually be good for the markets if the Dems win?

                                        The promise of continued aid throughout and even after it’s declared “over” with a “vaccine” or whatever, would keep the markets afloat by itself. The republicans might fight that and not pass that kind of ongoing legislation.

                                        If it all does catch up to us, and we have terrible employment and numbers heading into next year, and industries don’t recover, and unemployment stays way up there, then it seems that the market could have the exact opposite response to election results as it did in 2016.

                                        That’s a bunch of “if’s” in a fluid situation, but will any of them be revealed by election time?

                                        I’m just thinking out loud here.
                                        Do some history. Markets always do better under dems. Beside Reagan who flooded his programs with surplus’s s.s.payments. Maybe also papa bush
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                                        • ERBtheGREAT
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 06-03-13
                                          • 46

                                          #4605
                                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                          Penn way overvalued, would get out asap
                                          That deal with barstoolsports is a game changer imo. Portnoy's following is HUGE, the right demographic, and only growing by the day. People can't wait to blow their stimulus money in the casinos.
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                                          • ERBtheGREAT
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 06-03-13
                                            • 46

                                            #4606
                                            I'm long on...

                                            DIA
                                            XOM
                                            SIX
                                            CCL
                                            CNK (the only one I'll contemplate selling)
                                            PENN
                                            SPG
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                                            • navyblue81
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-29-13
                                              • 4143

                                              #4607
                                              Anyone here on Stash? If so, curious your opinion of it.
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                                              • CanuckG
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-23-10
                                                • 21978

                                                #4608
                                                How do we not buy RRR or MGM?
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                                                • Snowball
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 11-15-09
                                                  • 30047

                                                  #4609
                                                  Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                  How do we not buy RRR or MGM?
                                                  those are buys but it doesn't feel like a great rush to buy just now
                                                  questions like...

                                                  1) what happens when 2Q numbers reveal how bad the economy really is?
                                                  2) what happens when it dawns on the market that the new normal is NOT normal for hospitality and retail venues?
                                                  3) what happens IF the Senate disappoints on a second stimulus?
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #4610
                                                    Originally posted by Snowball
                                                    KVB -I'm planning on sitting out next week altogether. It's all political now. McConnell and most Reps will not want to give most of the Heroes Act, but they will, eventually, give states aid, more corporate and probably some personal - but nobody knows how much or when.
                                                    The Senate won't decide this next week. They won't come back for real sessions until June 1. It is quite possible the market trades down next week. Still, any news of expectations or comments would keep it from going down under the trading range. So it could go down 1-3%.

                                                    Much better to wait for the Senate to have their debates and then announce the form of the stimulus. We know "opening" is NOT anything like before. The whole market has written off earnings and bad data for the next 6-9 months. It's ridiculous. What if the GOP wants to wait, and they just do state aid and some pet projects, but no more free gummint checks for some time ? I think Trump and McConnell know they have to save some powder for the fall when it counts more.
                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                    But the "powder" is endless, dontchaknow?
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #4611
                                                      Originally posted by chico2663
                                                      Do some history. Markets always do better under dems. Beside Reagan who flooded his programs with surplus’s s.s.payments. Maybe also papa bush
                                                      That's really part of the point of the post. "Do some history" just doesn't cut it here. After the gernalization, you point out exceptions yourself...lol.

                                                      The only history we need is in really in my post, with the 2016 election. I think it's pretty clear we're in an exception time.

                                                      You can't possibly believe that the economy and markets, which are two different things, would have done better if Trump had lost. We're already in an exception to your generalization without even considering what happens going forward.

                                                      Crazy times.

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                                                      • homie1975
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                        • 15452

                                                        #4612
                                                        ^ There has been a Trump Bump since right after the election in 2016, there is simply no doubt about it. It cannot be ignored. The market was rising steadily under Obama from mid March 2009 until he left office, on the heels of the Great Recession, but it took a much steeper trajectory after trump was elected, there is no doubt about it. without the virus, we would have cont'd that tremendous upward path
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                                                        • ERBtheGREAT
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 06-03-13
                                                          • 46

                                                          #4613
                                                          dow 40,000 during Trump's next 4 years
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                                                          • CanuckG
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-23-10
                                                            • 21978

                                                            #4614
                                                            Hopped on 200 shares of $RRR at 12.83
                                                            PENN is still firing
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                                                            • Fred The Hammer
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-13-13
                                                              • 11576

                                                              #4615
                                                              Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                              In for 1000 shares on PENN (900 on this account) at around $16 a week ago. How long do we hold? Don't want to get greedy as I'm up almost 12k USD so far. Casinos are slowly reopening and sports will resume eventually. Also have $BYD (downtown vegas casinos should be okay) and $CHR.TO (really like them)

                                                              I've made a nice chunk (for me) on MGM, but Penn has beat the shit out of MGM. I'd take the $ and run personally. If we do have some kind of 2nd corona wave then casinos are going to be fkd for some time. Of course Penn has horsetracks and they're getting huge handles now since nothing else to bet on.
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                                                              • Fred The Hammer
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-13-13
                                                                • 11576

                                                                #4616
                                                                Let me ask a question for experienced traders if I can. I'm more of a day trader personality wise, but how does somebody go about becoming eligible to day trade? Some kind of a certification or something? Do you have to go to a different brokerage?

                                                                I bought USAC yesterday at $10.74 and I was ready to sell today at $11.28 and take my 5%, but Webull said my funds haven't settled yet and I could get a slap on the wrist. I did swing MGM the first time in 2 days. Thanks in advance for any help given!
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                                                                • Iona
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-08-10
                                                                  • 4244

                                                                  #4617
                                                                  Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                                  Let me ask a question for experienced traders if I can. I'm more of a day trader personality wise, but how does somebody go about becoming eligible to day trade? Some kind of a certification or something? Do you have to go to a different brokerage?

                                                                  I bought USAC yesterday at $10.74 and I was ready to sell today at $11.28 and take my 5%, but Webull said my funds haven't settled yet and I could get a slap on the wrist. I did swing MGM the first time in 2 days. Thanks in advance for any help given!
                                                                  I hope the below answers your question. In my case Schwab notified me that my account has been designated a Day Trading Account pursuant to SEC rules. Normally I do not day trade, but on one afternoon several years ago I made several round term trades on DIA. The following morning I received the alert from Schwab.

                                                                  FINRA rules define a pattern day trader as any customer who executes four or more “day trades” within five business days, provided that the number of day trades represents more than six percent of the customer’s total trades in the margin account for that same five business day period. Customers should note that this rule is a minimum requirement, and that some broker-dealers use a slightly broader definition in determining whether a customer qualifies as a “pattern day trader.” We recommend that customers contact their brokerage firms to determine whether a broader definition applies to their trading activities.

                                                                  When you meet the Day Trading thresholds, they (in my case Schwab) will designate your account as such.


                                                                  Minimum Equity Requirement: The minimum equity requirement for a customer who is designated as a pattern day trader is $25,000. This $25,000 requirement must be deposited into the customer’s account prior to any day trading activities and must be maintained at all times. A customer cannot fulfill this $25,000 requirement by cross-guaranteeing separate accounts. Each day trading account is required to meet the $25,000 requirement independently, using only the financial resources avail- able in that account.
                                                                  If a customer’s account falls below the $25,000 requirement, the customer will not be permitted to day trade until the customer deposits cash or securities into the account to restore the account to the $25,000 minimum equity level.


                                                                  Day Trading Buying Power: A customer who is designated as a pattern day trader may trade up to four times the customer’s maintenance margin excess as of the close of business of the previous day for equity securities. If a customer exceeds this day trading buying power limitation, the customer’s broker-dealer will issue a day trading margin call. The customer has five business days to meet his or her margin call, during which the customer’s day trading buying power is restricted to two times the customer’s maintenance margin excess based on the customer’s daily total trading commitment for equity securities. If the customer does not meet the margin call by the fifth business day, the day trading account will be restricted to trading only on a cash available basis for 90 days or until the call is met.





                                                                  Last edited by Iona; 05-22-20, 04:31 PM.
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #4618
                                                                    canuck and others, i am in the same boat with penn although to a much larger extent, it has really been the greatest investment of my life

                                                                    don't forget the tax advantages of holding something a year... the ability to buy puts as a hedge, or the ability to sell covered calls as a hedge

                                                                    the options premiums on penn are still really elevated, great money to be had there because of the (imho unfounded) thought that it is way overvalued... the people saying that are just pissed that they didn't buy in the 3s instead of the 30s
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                                                                    • CanuckG
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-23-10
                                                                      • 21978

                                                                      #4619
                                                                      Seems like PENN will only rise with sports and "normalcy" returning at some point. I get churchill down stock options from work and casino's seem to be gaining steam. I'll be holding long term.
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                                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                                        • 26914

                                                                        #4620
                                                                        Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                                        Seems like PENN will only rise with sports and "normalcy" returning at some point. I get churchill down stock options from work and casino's seem to be gaining steam. I'll be holding long term.
                                                                        good stuff canuck...50% capacity eventually turns into 100% capacity in these casinos... and just think of all these new people getting into horse racing/gambling instead of going to nba/nhl/mlb games
                                                                        it's amazing how many people i've talked to in the past month that are into penn national and casino stocks, if i would've asked them a year ago those same guys would've said "wtf is that?"
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