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Does anyone else find these events intriguing just before a major event like the presidential elections?
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Trying to not let muslims come into the country will have a reverse effect. It would radicalize exponentially more that are already here. If Trump is serious about this, then he'd need to actually be serious about it all and get rid of all of the mulsims here and ban islam, eliminate all the mosques. Is he willing to do that? Put up or shut. No quarter-measures that will backfire.Comment -
Question I have - why was this guy that was on the FBI watch list allowed legally to buy an automatic assault rifle? This makes NO SENSE to me..
Some gun laws need to be tweaked.. If you are or were on the FBI watch list for a potential terrorist threat you SHOULD NOT be able to buy an assault rifle legally period ever.. That's a no brainer!!!
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And no doubt they will use this supposedly real scenario to do just that. By the nads I tell ya.Question I have - why was this guy that was on the FBI watch list allowed legally to buy an automatic assault rifle? This makes NO SENSE to me..
Some gun laws need to be tweaked.. If you are or were on the FBI watch list for a potential terrorist threat you SHOULD NOT be able to buy an assault rifle legally period ever.. That's a no brainer!!!Comment -
Good on you for taking a stand against the NRA. The NRA will not agree on any additional gun restriction and the Republicans are owned by the NRA. Having a bad NRA rating is a death-knell for most Republicans.Question I have - why was this guy that was on the FBI watch list allowed legally to buy an automatic assault rifle? This makes NO SENSE to me..
Some gun laws need to be tweaked.. If you are or were on the FBI watch list for a potential terrorist threat you SHOULD NOT be able to buy an assault rifle legally period ever.. That's a no brainer!!!
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What hole do you live under? Crime is a socio economic problem not a color problem. Have you looked at how many murders and violent crimes are occurring in Utah lately, how about Washington state? It's a fukking epidemic and there's only 1% of blacks living in Utah. All the crimes there are by white people. We have entire communities of black people here in Houston with zero crime in those neighborhoods. We have other neighborhoods where the crime is rampant. Why? The good areas have jobs and opportunity. Have you ever been to Albion Michigan? It's a very small city half black and zero crime. Go right down the highway to Detroit and you will find a lot of disadvantaged white people committing crimes at an alarming rate.
We could write a book on the reasons why many blacks are doing dirt. Yes it's a disturbing number but it has nothing to do with them having a higher propensity to crime than other races. Put any color person in the same situation and you will get the same results. Have you ever seen the movie Trading Places? People are a product of their environment. If I put you in a certain environment, I am almost certain you would change who you are within weeks of being there. We have too many people in the US that are living hopeless lives. They see no way out of their current situation. They have very low self worth so it's no wonder they don't give a damn about you and I. Unless we can create hope in our younger generation and give them opportunities to better themselves we are setting ourselves up to have to deal with these kids later. White kids in Florida was dropping out of HS at 65%. That isn't a them problem. That is a we problem...
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If will Muslims commit an act of terrorism in Europe in the next year were a bet what would the odds be?
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I agree with your point but do you seriously think that guy couldn't have acquired a gun off of one of his homies or the black market, even if he was banned from getting one himself? Within a couple hours right now I could acquire a plethora of things that are "illegal" where I live from people I know. Just make a couple of calls. You got the money you get the goods.Question I have - why was this guy that was on the FBI watch list allowed legally to buy an automatic assault rifle? This makes NO SENSE to me..
Some gun laws need to be tweaked.. If you are or were on the FBI watch list for a potential terrorist threat you SHOULD NOT be able to buy an assault rifle legally period ever.. That's a no brainer!!!
I'm very pro right to bear arms and I see no problem with more thorough background checks and more restrictions on who can own guns and which types, but simple legislation isn't going to do much of anything. There are a plethora of convicted felons and people underage that have guns right now in America. How did they get them if they are supposedly not allowed to have them according to the laws? Prohibition doesn't change much. There were bootleggers back in the early 20th century. There are still drug dealers today dishing out illicit products. It's illegal to bet on sports outside of Vegas in America yet everyone on this forum and millions more not on this forum do all the time. Why would any type of gun prohibition be any different?Comment -
There's a lot of broke whites in trailer parks I dont see em going around "wiling out" and tearing up stores and shooting each other over sneakers and robbing news crews covering a recent robbery of their camera equipment...face it blacks in this country have the culture of wild animals and being around other blacks is the horrible "environment" you speak of.What hole do you live under? Crime is a socio economic problem not a color problem. Have you looked at how many murders and violent crimes are occurring in Utah lately, how about Washington state? It's a fukking epidemic and there's only 1% of blacks living in Utah. All the crimes there are by white people. We have entire communities of black people here in Houston with zero crime. Why? They have jobs and opportunity. Have you ever been to Albion Michigan? It's a very small city but half black and zero crime. Go right down the highway to Detroit and you will find a lot of disadvantaged white people committing crimes at an alarming rate.
We could write a book on the reasons why many blacks are doing dirt. Yes it's a disturbing number but it has nothing to do with them having a higher propensity to crime than other races. Put any color person in the same situation and you will get the same results. Have you ever seen the movie Trading Places? People are a product of their environment. If I put you in a certain environment, I am almost certain you would change who you are within weeks of being there.
Sure if you put blacks in a mansion Trading Places style and gave em a ton of money they would probably act better but that's not a change in environment that's called being filthy rich...you're not gonna rob ppl if you're penetrating rich...what would be the point
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You have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.There's a lot of broke whites in trailer parks I dont see em going around "wiling out" and tearing up stores and shooting each other over sneakers and robbing news crews covering a recent robbery of their camera equipment...face it blacks in this country have the culture of wild animals and being around other blacks is the horrible "environment" you speak of.
Sure if you put blacks in a mansion Trading Places style and gave em a ton of money they would probably act better but that's not a change in environment that's called being filthy rich...you're not gonna rob ppl if you're penetrating rich...what would be the point
Mac4Lyfe is right on the money. He just gave a great example of the black communities in houston with very little crime and utah being rampant with crime
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ATF said he bought the gun legally...you can't buy a "automatic assault rifle" legally unless you have military or law enforcement credentials and even then it's not that simple...so which is it? Did he buy the gun legally or was is an actual "automatic assault rifle"??...you sound like you don't know what you are talking about, that's all..Question I have - why was this guy that was on the FBI watch list allowed legally to buy an automatic assault rifle? This makes NO SENSE to me..
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You can own a fully automatic legally, but I thought he used a semi automatic. Was it fully?Last edited by jtoler; 06-13-16, 12:21 AM.Comment -
ROFLMAO you guys really are clueless...I'll tell ya what I'll go to a brokedick white trailer park...you go to a black housing project at 2 am we'll see who has a tougher night. Those 1 in a million successful small black communities you speak of sure dont look like all the other black communities in this country in Oakland, Memphis, Atlanta, Detroit, etc. and keep in mind I live in Memphis where it's 90% black...let's just assume I know a little more about black communities than you do.Comment -
You obviously have never been in poor white neighborhoods. Good for you. But, I can take you to several if you like. You just don't hear about white crime much in the news and when you do hear it, you really don't think nothing of it. But the minute they say "Black", our ears immediately perk up. If you look at the news, if it's a white guy doing dirt, they rarely say the suspect was white, never, ever say they were Jewish, sometimes say they were Asian or Hispanic BUT will always say they were black. What do you think happens when you keep hearing this? White people end up fearing blacks and poor blacks have more reason to not give a shit.
Take a look at this study...
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No wonder you feel the way you do. You have been tainted by your environment. You live in a shit hole. You need to spend some time in Ladera Heights, Baldwin Hills or Windsor Hills, Calif where black people live in mansions that would make your head spin. How about Uniondale or Hillcrest, NY, or many areas in Maryland/DC area. I can take you to gated black neighborhoods in Atlanta right now that have zero crime. There's an area in Orlando about 20 minutes from where this club shooting occurred that has mega mansions all owned by black people. You need to spend a few years in Dubai where you will find no crime and people of color coexisting together in a thriving metropolis.
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I said I'd go to a brokedick white trailer park and you go to a Memphis housing project...we dont have any poorer white neighborhoods than the trailer park in Memphis...the whites are smart enough not to live in the housing projects cause they dont like being shot.
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You're stretching a bit with the socioeconomic talk. I grew up poor by American standards and yet I have a spotless background. Zero criminal history, not even a traffic ticket. I could easily pass the most exhaustive background check or security clearance. I'm not the only one either. I went to school with a black chick that was poorer and worse off than I was. She worked her ass off, got good grades, went to law school and is now a prosecuting attorney in the Miami area making six figures a year. The problem is some people just don't want to put in the effort, they want to take the easy way out in life which is usually the life of a criminal.What hole do you live under? Crime is a socio economic problem not a color problem. Have you looked at how many murders and violent crimes are occurring in Utah lately, how about Washington state? It's a fukking epidemic and there's only 1% of blacks living in Utah. All the crimes there are by white people. We have entire communities of black people here in Houston with zero crime in those neighborhoods. We have other neighborhoods where the crime is rampant. Why? The good areas have jobs and opportunity. Have you ever been to Albion Michigan? It's a very small city half black and zero crime. Go right down the highway to Detroit and you will find a lot of disadvantaged white people committing crimes at an alarming rate.
We could write a book on the reasons why many blacks are doing dirt. Yes it's a disturbing number but it has nothing to do with them having a higher propensity to crime than other races. Put any color person in the same situation and you will get the same results. Have you ever seen the movie Trading Places? People are a product of their environment. If I put you in a certain environment, I am almost certain you would change who you are within weeks of being there. We have too many people in the US that are living hopeless lives. They see no way out of their current situation. They have very low self worth so it's no wonder they don't give a damn about you and I. Unless we can create hope in our younger generation and give them opportunities to better themselves we are setting ourselves up to have to deal with these kids later. White kids in Florida was dropping out of HS at 65%. That isn't a them problem. That is a we problem...
Further to your point about race and crime, blacks commit a disproportionate ratio of violent crimes per capita compared to other races in America. We're talking murder, armed robbery, the hardcore crimes and that's per the FBI statistics. Blacks are only 14% of the American population, yet they committed 52% of all murders in America between 1980-2010 per the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Here's some literature if you, "don't believe it" like some other black people that I've pointed this out to. To put it in other words, there are roughly 5 times more whites than blacks in America, yet blacks still manage to murder more people than whites. Let's talk statistics and facts and leave the bullshit opinions riding the bench where they belong.
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I have a lot of experience dealing with disadvantaged people. I've worked with the Red Cross and Fema in many impoverished areas devastated by events, mainly weather. I was asked to help process thousands of people during Katrina. I was totally shocked how many poor black people there were. I met grown ass men, 30, 40 years old that never, ever held a job in their lives, many couldn't even read or write. How were they surviving? They survived by doing dirt and taking/scamming off of others. I'm not talking a few hundred people, I'm talking thousands of men who were useless in society. They had no viable skills, been in and out of jail and could not bring anything to the table. These guys were like walking zombies. The irony was that you see the little kids and they all had smiles on their faces, were excited to meet you and talk to you. The kids were very smart, the kids were playful and full of hope. Then you see the adults standing next to them and you knew it was a matter of time before those kids became those useless adults. We have to find a way to reach these kids before they turn into those zombies but I don't know where to start. You can't just throw money at the problem but I rather spend money on our inner cities than send it overseas to people we will never see.
There were also a lot of Hispanics and some white people in the same circumstance but not as much as the blacks. This is systematic poverty and lack of basic training. It is almost impossible for someone to get out of those circumstances. Many of us hit the environmental lottery. We were lucky to be born into families that at least had common sense. I try to have compassion for people that were less fortunate than I was.Comment -
This is simply not true. Did you know that there are more blacks in college than there are in prison? You also have to take into account of the number of blacks that have been falsely imprisoned and are completely innocent. There are quite of them. We hear all of the time about innocent blacks that have been serving years in prison only to finally be released.Comment -
Did you have parents? Did they try to teach you right from wrong? Many of these kids are growing up in families where the parents are doing wrong so they can't teach right from wrong. You may be an outlier, so also your black chick. I do not have time to break down your stats because you won't be open to what I share because you've already formed your opinion. There are disproportionate amount of disadvantage black people so you should expect them to commit more crimes. I can take you to several black neighborhoods where there are no crime (look at the list I showed above). and I can take you to white areas that white people commit all the crimes.
I hope you also know that 90% of blacks are killing blacks. And by the same token, 82% of whites are killing whites. So don't try and spin this into black people killing white people because it is not true. By a large margin, people kill people that are in their own environment.Comment -
White athlete rapes a girl, he gets 6 months prison sentence, he'll get out in 3 months with good behavior. Black athlete rapes a girl, same exact circumstances, he gets 25 years prison sentence.
Blacks and Hispanics are 3 times more likely to be pulled over and searched than whites. They are more likely to 20% more jail time than whites for the exact same crime. Research has shown that whites and blacks both use and sell drugs at an equal rate but blacks will get caught and spend more time in jail for the exact same crime.
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Mac if we put all the black criminals in prison thered be 4 walls around my city...of course they're more likely to be searched...bc there's 5 million different black and hiSPanIC street gangs shooting up the city everyday and there's not one white gang. I would imagine if I walked around all day with my shorts around my ankles dressed in my boxers I wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt I'm a respectable citizen either.White athlete rapes a girl, he gets 6 months prison sentence, he'll get out in 3 months with good behavior. Black athlete rapes a girl, same exact circumstances, he gets 25 years prison sentence.
Blacks and Hispanics are 3 times more likely to be pulled over and searched than whites. They are more likely to 20% more jail time than whites for the exact same crime. Research has shown that whites and blacks both use and sell drugs at an equal rate but blacks will get caught and spend more time in jail for the exact same crime.
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Which is why I got the hell out of Cleveland many years ago. But I've seen my share of poor white trash doing stupid shit in Florida too, believe that. Try reading the news in Florida and it will have you shaking your head. I'm glad I'm out of that place. Bottom line, years ago, you could insulate yourself from most of the bullshit if you had money. Now, no place is safe. Too many crazies everywhere, no matter the color. Too many people with mental illnesses. It's like hereditary and spreading rapidly.Comment -
5% of the population in this country...FIVE PERCENT....BLACK MALES AGES 14-40....COMMIT > 50%...FIFTY PERCENT...of violent crime in the US.What hole do you live under? Crime is a socio economic problem not a color problem. Have you looked at how many murders and violent crimes are occurring in Utah lately, how about Washington state? It's a fukking epidemic and there's only 1% of blacks living in Utah. All the crimes there are by white people. We have entire communities of black people here in Houston with zero crime in those neighborhoods. We have other neighborhoods where the crime is rampant. Why? The good areas have jobs and opportunity. Have you ever been to Albion Michigan? It's a very small city half black and zero crime. Go right down the highway to Detroit and you will find a lot of disadvantaged white people committing crimes at an alarming rate.
We could write a book on the reasons why many blacks are doing dirt. Yes it's a disturbing number but it has nothing to do with them having a higher propensity to crime than other races. Put any color person in the same situation and you will get the same results. Have you ever seen the movie Trading Places? People are a product of their environment. If I put you in a certain environment, I am almost certain you would change who you are within weeks of being there. We have too many people in the US that are living hopeless lives. They see no way out of their current situation. They have very low self worth so it's no wonder they don't give a damn about you and I. Unless we can create hope in our younger generation and give them opportunities to better themselves we are setting ourselves up to have to deal with these kids later. White kids in Florida was dropping out of HS at 65%. That isn't a them problem. That is a we problem...
And you think white people cause crime? Are you shitting me? We got 5% of our population doing over 50% of the crime, and you want to blame whites.
Yeah, these ghetto ass crime causing blacks were born without fathers, and that is not nobody's fault but their own backwards culture. And we got a government that will gladly give these parasites free money and keep the cycle going.
And you are WRONG....about "put any race of people in black positions, and they'll do the same thing..."...um no they wont. Because there are white people, born out of wedlock, very poor...and those white's dont murder each other at the rate that blacks do. There are poor people of every race, but blacks more than other race BY FAR...commit more crime.
Sick of this moral equivalence bullshit. It's not supported by anything. Not the stats. Not math. Not common sense. Nothing.
Every country on earth that has alot of black people, has a lot of violence. Do you think that is a coincidence? How many peaceful African countries are there?
All these English, European, Canadian hippies telling the US that it has a "gun" problem. No, it has a black people problem. Period. And the world has an Islam problem.Comment -
They should be pulled over 25 times more than whites. Their crime rate is about 25 times that of white people.
Again, black males...only make up 5% of the entire US population. But they do over 50% of the violent crime in this country. You better believe the police should be checking them. I can't believe they are only pulled over 3X as much. It should be way MORE than that if the police were doing their jobs. But we got police running scared of being labeled racists so much that they've given up on policing blacks. Thats why the murder rate in Chicago and St Louis has skyrocketed. Police have given up on it.
But again, all of you progressive beta SJW morons never look at stats. Never look at data. You are willfully ignorant. I am very conservative, and I know Trump really is not much of a conservative, if at all - but I guarantee if he gets elected we won't be having a President make excuses for these violent parasites that have tried to destroy the US culture. We won't have a President blaming white people for violent Muslims wanting to kill us. We will have a President that tells it like it is.
And the flat out truth is that #1. Islam is at war with everyone who is not Muslim. If every single terrorist attack in multiple countries, and the very words of the Koran cannot convince you, then nothing will. #2. They will use any means necessary to inflict as many deaths as possible. #3. The way to win this war is to either kill them all, or convert them all. There's no making peace with people that want to kill you. Taking weapons away from them is IMPOSSIBLE. Naive. And stupid to even consider.
As for blacks, complete loss cause until they stop having babies out of wedlock. The only way government can help change that is to end welfare and stop incentivizing baby making. Till that changes, nothing in that community will change. Going to be poor, angry, violent, and lacking discipline growing up with only mama in the home. Ain't nobody can change that till they do it themselves.Comment
