2011 NFL Pro Picks with John Ryan

[jjaycuny]

John, please post a link for the NBA thread when it's up. Thanks!

[John Ryan]

The NBA thread for my plays will be right here:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basketball-betting/1462219-nba-2011-2012-season-picks-john-ryan.html#post12858341

[John Ryan]

Great Work John.

Thanks for all of the positive comments. It was a great night.. but now it is time to focus on tomorrow's game and the next opportunity.

[Bcatswin]

Great work JR, do you have a College Hoops Thread

[5mike5]

Great work JR, do you have a College Hoops Thread

yes he does

its with the other threads on the college basketball forum

thread is "NCAA BASKETBALL WITH JOHN RYAN"

[jolmscheid]

Hey John...do you have an updated record and units won / lost for NFL for this season? Keep it up!

[John Ryan]

Great work JR, do you have a College Hoops Thread

http://forum.sbrforum.com/ncaa-basketball-betting/1392687-ncaa-basketball-john-ryan.html

[John Ryan]

Here is the updated record. 33-27 ATS with 5* plays, 4-3 ATS with 10* plays and 3-1 with the 20* Titans.

So, an easy way to look at units one is to break it down by * unit play. For example sake, let's say we are wagering $100 per 5* unit. So, for 5* graded plays we won $3300 and lost $2970 for a net gaining of $330.00 per $100 5* play (this is using $20.00 per * unit)

10* graded plays went 4-3 so now we are wagering $200 per 10* winning $800 and losing $660 for a net gain of $140.

20* plays are 3-1 ATS so we are now wagering $400 per 20* play winning $1200 while losing $440 for a net gain of $760.

Overall, we made $760 on the 20* plays, $140 on the 10* plays, and $330. on the 5* plays for a grand total of $1230.00 to date.

[John Ryan]

Now, some, not necessarily myself, would make all of the plays equivalent to a 5* play.

so, 5* plays are 33-27, then a 4-3 10* record is equivalent to an 8-6 ATS 5* mark because a 10* is double the amount of a 5*.

then 20* are 4 times the 5* amount so the 3-1 record then becomes 12-4 ATS. Adding these up you get a combined record of 53-37 ATS mark, which is than translated to 59% ATS. I personally do not deal with percentages, Units one as outlined above is a far more meaningful because it is reflected in your statement! Right? smile. anyway, we need to get a nice win streak the last two weeks and get this 5* mark up to as close as we can to 60% ATS, which was my goal stated on page 1 of this thread and has always been my goal for 18 seasons.

[georgekobe8]

anything on tonights cfb game?

never mind found your cfb thread

[HawkeyeIowa]

Nice work John!

[Deol]

Now, some, not necessarily myself, would make all of the plays equivalent to a 5* play.

so, 5* plays are 33-27, then a 4-3 10* record is equivalent to an 8-6 ATS 5* mark because a 10* is double the amount of a 5*.

then 20* are 4 times the 5* amount so the 3-1 record then becomes 12-4 ATS. Adding these up you get a combined record of 53-37 ATS mark, which is than translated to 59% ATS. I personally do not deal with percentages, Units one as outlined above is a far more meaningful because it is reflected in your statement! Right? smile. anyway, we need to get a nice win streak the last two weeks and get this 5* mark up to as close as we can to 60% ATS, which was my goal stated on page 1 of this thread and has always been my goal for 18 seasons.

What about your 10.4 unit money line loss on DALLAS? Or the 3* loss on STL for the 2nd half on MNF. Your record keeping is atrocius. Why do you try and deliberately mislead people?? You are actually just barely +units if every play was tailed. 59% haha, what a joke. I expect you're followers to come in and ignorantly defend you, but thats there problem. Don't you have any integrity? Don't get me wrong, I like the converstation and debate and I do tail from time to time, but please stop misleading people. It's embarrassing!!!

[illios]

What about your 10.4 unit money line loss on DALLAS? Or the 3* loss on STL for the 2nd half on MNF. Your record keeping is atrocius. Why do you try and deliberately mislead people?? You are actually just barely +units if every play was tailed. 59% haha, what a joke. I expect you're followers to come in and ignorantly defend you, but thats there problem. Don't you have any integrity? Don't get me wrong, I like the converstation and debate and I do tail from time to time, but please stop misleading people. It's embarrassing!!!

Those 3* are optional... If you want to count those. You have to count his optional winning money line bets? Cuz I've made some money betting the optional underdog money line bet?

[Creditsforedits]

What about your 10.4 unit money line loss on DALLAS? Or the 3* loss on STL for the 2nd half on MNF. Your record keeping is atrocius. Why do you try and deliberately mislead people?? You are actually just barely +units if every play was tailed. 59% haha, what a joke. I expect you're followers to come in and ignorantly defend you, but thats there problem. Don't you have any integrity? Don't get me wrong, I like the converstation and debate and I do tail from time to time, but please stop misleading people. It's embarrassing!!!

Deol you look about as batsh*t crazy as JR007... John was extremely clear and explicit in how he will record his official record and in keeping to his method he is accurate. The optional plays to which you allude are not part of the official record.

Your inability to read and understand really very simple methodology is the most embarrassing thing in this thread. The only thing misleading is people like you trying to cloud a very simple thread that John has going.

[5mike5]

What about your 10.4 unit money line loss on DALLAS? Or the 3* loss on STL for the 2nd half on MNF. Your record keeping is atrocius. Why do you try and deliberately mislead people?? You are actually just barely +units if every play was tailed. 59% haha, what a joke. I expect you're followers to come in and ignorantly defend you, but thats there problem. Don't you have any integrity? Don't get me wrong, I like the converstation and debate and I do tail from time to time, but please stop misleading people. It's embarrassing!!!

only thing embarassibng around here is ur ignorance buddy

im up VERY nice following john in all sports this year

thanks mr. john ryan AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK

[psufan]

Word. I am a fan.

[BuckeyeMike]

I just started using this website and have not been following John for a long time like some of you have. I can already tell though he seems like an honest guy that has a passion for betting sports like we all do. I do not understand why someone wants to come on and be negative.Nobody makes you follow John or even use this website. If you're going to be negative then why don't just leave. I believe John gives information that he believes in, he is not going to always win but he will put his best effort in and his opinion about what he feels to be a solid play. Last night I took Cal Poly and lost by a point, I got this pick from John and you do NOT see me coming on here complaining about it. Remember the goal is 60%, if he or I were perfect at picking plays we would not be on here. No to negative comments or people questioning John.

[psufan]

Word.

[losemyloot]

They are called trolls and when you feed them it makes them happy.

[frostie]

waiting to see your picks for tonight john here and on the CF board im leaning hou -7 and bois-14 thoughts sorry bout bringing the college in here

[tommyminh]

If truely that peyton is out I leaning on houston -7 also parley houston plus under 41. On my rl line.

[balls2wall]

If truely that peyton is out I leaning on houston -7 also parley houston plus under 41. On my rl line.

yeah bro


I hate the word lock and try to have good money management etc..., but I would bet my house, cars, life etc... that Peyton is not playing tonight


THAT is a truly a lock if there ever was one

[frostie]

cmon john im heading out to dinner would like to get your insight before i make my picks tonight lol

[John Ryan]

5* graded play 'UNDER' the posted total in the Texans/Colts game. line is 40 1/2 -110.

Houston will run the ball better than 40 times and if successful may run it 50 + times. There is NO reason for them to have an aggressive offensive scheme against a Colts team that I think will play hard, but go through the motions...

Houston will want ball control and time of possession in their favor and by as much as possible. More later.

[John Ryan]

I just might note too that I had an 'optional' MONEY LINE play on Arizona at +14 points when they upset the Eagles in Philadelphia. And there were others too. I appreciate the support and how many of clarify the accounting of the record. I appreciate it very much during this busy time of the year.

[5mike5]

thank you mr. john, much appreciated as always

[rockhardfister]

John - you wanna see a fixed a game - your looking at it. At least 4x bogus calls on Texans so far and its not even halftime. How about that 10 yard sack that turned into a roughing the QB...nice 25 yard swing? Meanwhile the shitty ass injury riddled Colts can do no wrong. You cant account for corrupt officials!

[Deol]

Deol you look about as batsh*t crazy as JR007... John was extremely clear and explicit in how he will record his official record and in keeping to his method he is accurate. The optional plays to which you allude are not part of the official record.

Your inability to read and understand really very simple methodology is the most embarrassing thing in this thread. The only thing misleading is people like you trying to cloud a very simple thread that John has going.

I love how you point out how his 3* plays are optional but completely ignore to comment on the 10.4 unit loss. The poster above clearly explains they are not used for his record keeping, but he's not a douche about it. Explain to me this: If you wager 10.4 Units to win 5 units like John did on the DAL game, how is that considered a 5* play? He lost and only counts it as a 5* loss, and therefore if you tailed perfectly you would not be near to where John says he is. I don't care if anyone believes me or not, it doesn't take much common sense to figure that out. I actually like a lot of his plays, I just dislike being deliberately mislead. Best thing to do here is prolly tail if you are leaning that way already, but don't tail because his inaccurate record appears "good."

[John Ryan]

John - you wanna see a fixed a game - your looking at it. At least 4x bogus calls on Texans so far and its not even halftime. How about that 10 yard sack that turned into a roughing the QB...nice 25 yard swing? Meanwhile the shitty ass injury riddled Colts can do no wrong. You cant account for corrupt officials!

I have to say that was positively the WORSE officiating I have ever witnessed in any sport ever. That last drive was ridiculous and I am surprised that it is not being discussed by ESPN and their respective morning radio shows.

[John Ryan]

I love how you point out how his 3* plays are optional but completely ignore to comment on the 10.4 unit loss. The poster above clearly explains they are not used for his record keeping, but he's not a douche about it. Explain to me this: If you wager 10.4 Units to win 5 units like John did on the DAL game, how is that considered a 5* play? He lost and only counts it as a 5* loss, and therefore if you tailed perfectly you would not be near to where John says he is. I don't care if anyone believes me or not, it doesn't take much common sense to figure that out. I actually like a lot of his plays, I just dislike being deliberately mislead. Best thing to do here is prolly tail if you are leaning that way already, but don't tail because his inaccurate record appears "good."

I truly want to just have ATS records. I can assure you if I post the optional money line plays that I released in both CFB and the NFL, it would more than offset the horrid Dallas pick. To clarify further, the Dallas play would count as a 10* play since it matters only how much is being wagered and not the won to be won. The play on Arizona defeating the Eagles offsets the Dallas loss immediately.. I do appreciate you pointing it out.

I only wanted to add some 'bonus' suggestions and ideas that i thought were worthy for everyone's consideration above and beyond the ATS picks and analysis.

[Deol]

"To clarify further, the Dallas play would count as a 10* play since it matters only how much is being wagered and not the won to be won. The play on Arizona defeating the Eagles offsets the Dallas loss immediately.. I do appreciate you pointing it out."

If one actually tailed your official plays, the optional 2 units wager on ARI ML over PHI would not offset the DAL loss as it was an optional play. I guess we will just agree to disagree on your record keeping and ATS record. GL the rest of the way.

[Calvani]

I truly want to just have ATS records. I can assure you if I post the optional money line plays that I released in both CFB and the NFL, it would more than offset the horrid Dallas pick. To clarify further, the Dallas play would count as a 10* play since it matters only how much is being wagered and not the won to be won. The play on Arizona defeating the Eagles offsets the Dallas loss immediately.. I do appreciate you pointing it out.

I only wanted to add some 'bonus' suggestions and ideas that i thought were worthy for everyone's consideration above and beyond the ATS picks and analysis.

Thank you for everything John. Your insights have been greatly appreciated. I have had a very successful last several months using your picks and analysis in conjunction with my own matchup evaluations. It is unfortunate that people are cynical to the point that they feel the need to criticize the (incredibly) valuable service you provide for free - a service that they have the absolute choice to use. Keep on rocking and thanks again.

[mlesnet]

Good call on the Houston/Indy under. I thought that could of been a 10* play even. Rookie qb against a weak Indy team, who still managed to pull out the win and still was on the under

[5mike5]

thanks for ANOTHER winner last night with the Under selection!!!

ur picks and insight is VERY appreciated



(P.S.)that was the worst officated game ive seen in years...just god awful

[IllyPhilly[DOC]]

5* graded play 'UNDER' the posted total in the Texans/Colts game. line is 40 1/2 -110.

Houston will run the ball better than 40 times and if successful may run it 50 + times. There is NO reason for them to have an aggressive offensive scheme against a Colts team that I think will play hard, but go through the motions...

Houston will want ball control and time of possession in their favor and by as much as possible. More later.

Nice hit last night John. I was with that under all the way safest pick imo. I also got to reverse with with Over Boise 66.5!!! And reversed colts + under. It was a good night and early start to these Saturday games!