2011 NFL Pro Picks with John Ryan

**Coach Potato** · 09-19-11, 02:56 PM

hey, john is 5 units your usual amount to bet or is it a bigger play than usual, i only ask because theres quite a few 5 units plays in here

**jjaycuny** · 09-19-11, 04:00 PM

Thanks for the picks John. Had a drunk night in the online casino

so I gotta build my bankroll back up

**JR007** · 09-19-11, 04:09 PM

would not get too carried away, this early.....his 20 unit play was a backdoor cover

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Coach Potato

hey, john is 5 units your usual amount to bet or is it a bigger play than usual, i only ask because theres quite a few 5 units plays in here

well they have all been 5 unit plays, but there have been one 10* play that won Last Sunday with Dallas and the yesterday a 20* play with Carolina. So, it will vary, but if you are tailing my methods then it is imperative to bet the same amount per * rating with each release.

**JR007** · 09-19-11, 04:16 PM

In most of the employment world this would be construed as a "conflict of interest"..maybe you are a "independent contractor'

**Stevedore** · 09-19-11, 04:37 PM

I'm on the first half under 22 myself. I see a lot of running by both teams early, sort of feeling each other out. Any fireworks will probably happen in the 2nd half, but are there enough skill people on both offenses for explosive plays John? Why do you like the over here, thanks.

**fecgp40** · 09-19-11, 04:58 PM

First let me say this. It is clear to me John knows what he's talking about, and is an excellent capper. I've enjoyed his picks, have tailed on many and won on many. I didn't tail last night (I was on the Eagles TT over) as I just wasn't sure. I agree that John called Vick getting banged up (although maybe not specifically in this game.) But seriuosly, if Vick doesn't get hurt, do the Falcons really win this game? I don't think so. What do you all think?

**clazzi** · 09-19-11, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by JR007

In most of the employment world this would be construed as a "conflict of interest"..maybe you are a "independent contractor'

What do you mean? I would like to know what you are talking about in particular if you can elaborate.

Edited sentence to make more sense.

**fecgp40** · 09-19-11, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by JR007

would not get too carried away, this early.....his 20 unit play was a backdoor cover

It was, but it was still a win, and as someone who watched the entire game, it looked to me like Carolina was the right call. They dominated the first half. Green Bay was only up 7 with 5 minutes to play, and Carolina had a busted coverage which allowed a long TD pass to Jordy Nelson. The Carolina "backdoor" score was the equalizer. Either way, a W is a W.

**Thien Co** · 09-19-11, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by fecgp40

First let me say this. It is clear to me John knows what he's talking about, and is an excellent capper. I've enjoyed his picks, have tailed on many and won on many. I didn't tail last night (I was on the Eagles TT over) as I just wasn't sure. I agree that John called Vick getting banged up (although maybe not specifically in this game.) But seriuosly, if Vick doesn't get hurt, do the Falcons really win this game? I don't think so. What do you all think?

If Vick didn't get hurt, I thought Phila should've won the game. Honestly, I just had a confidence in John, so I agreed and tailed his bet

... Sorry for your lost.

I hope tonight would be Giant at -6.5 and over. Good lucks to all

Thank You very MUCH to Mr. John!

**doublej95** · 09-19-11, 05:14 PM

So many guys in here bashing Ryan's plays, the guy has been a class act. More posters should try the same.

**man7892005** · 09-19-11, 05:17 PM

hi ryan, rams tonight is the play???

**Sweatyguido** · 09-19-11, 05:18 PM

Went with a teaser tonight

Giants even over Rams
over 38

240 to win 200

hope it hits!

**fsulover100** · 09-19-11, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by doublej95

So many guys in here bashing Ryan's plays, the guy has been a class act. More posters should try the same.

Probably because we have all seen this a million times, give free picks, then slowly work into "premium plays" eventually all picks are premium.

**jbizzle** · 09-19-11, 06:03 PM

John, what do you think about a 6.5 pt teaser, rams +14.5 and over 37.5 for -110?

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by jbizzle

John, what do you think about a 6.5 pt teaser, rams +14.5 and over 37.5 for -110?

Not a big fan of teasers. Been years - probably back to the late 1990's that I worked any teasers. HOWEVER, I do like your idea. I do believe that if the Rams cover it will be an 'over' type of game.. Another small bet to consider would be the 'over and using the Rams on the money line. That would have a far bigger pay-off, but certainly less likley to happen then your teaser. Thanks for the idea.

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by man7892005

hi ryan, rams tonight is the play???

I like the 'OVER' and the Rams.. so if you want to try a small parlay......... the play that will count for the record is the 'OVER'

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 06:55 PM

Just to clarify. I like the "OVER" for a 5* bet. I do believe the Rams will win despite the injuries. The Ginats secondary might be as good as LSU's.. now don't think I am serious, but Giants can't use safety run support because it exposes the perimeter of the secondary which will be in man coverage.

I have heard too that the Giants are a resilient team under Coughlin, however the truth is that he is just 4-13 ATS (-10.3 Units) off an upset loss to a division rival as a favorite in all games he has coached since 1992.

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 06:56 PM

The Rams defense is very good at disguising their gap blitz plays by moving personnel all over the field and not showing the same looks. Manning has struggled greatly in his carer against these types of defenses and the Giants just do not have a trustworthy go-to-guy on offense.

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 07:01 PM

Also, check back at Half-time.. I wil possibly have a second half idea to bounce off of the forum.

**fecgp40** · 09-19-11, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Thien Co

If Vick didn't get hurt, I thought Phila should've won the game. Honestly, I just had a confident in John, so I agreed and tailed his bet

... Sorry for your lost. I hope tonight would be Giant at -6.5 and over. Good lucks to all

Thank You very MUCH to Mr. John!

NO need to be sorry. I didn't lose. The Eagles TT over 25 hit.

**fecgp40** · 09-19-11, 07:19 PM

O/U down to 43.5 on 5 dimes. Public betting the under? I'm tailing John tonight on the over. I agree 100% over and Rams are the plays.

Nick

**CROANT** · 09-19-11, 07:36 PM

I got Rams +7, like that line alot...

**Mully85** · 09-19-11, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by JR007

would not get too carried away, this early.....his 20 unit play was a backdoor cover

People keep trying to play off this WIN as a "Backdoor Cover"....NONE OF US GIVE A S**T, It's Money in MY POCKET....that's the type of WIN it is...

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Mully85

People keep trying to play off this WIN as a "Backdoor Cover"....NONE OF US GIVE A S**T, It's Money in MY POCKET....that's the type of WIN it is...

I have to say thank you. You are right.. and you know I have been on the other side too, but I do argue that Carolina was the right side all along win or lose. Thanks. Great use of words.

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by fecgp40

O/U down to 43.5 on 5 dimes. Public betting the under? I'm tailing John tonight on the over. I agree 100% over and Rams are the plays.

Nick

Thanks Nick for the vote of confidence

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 09:01 PM

we are in no man's land in this gane. Rams losing by a point and the 'over' still in he balance.

**LastSonKal-El** · 09-19-11, 09:13 PM

If rams wake the eff up they can cover, but they gotta pull it together

**John Ryan** · 09-19-11, 09:16 PM

This is a purely optional bet. Take the 'OVER' 21 points points for the second half. This game has all the seeds to really open up in the second half. so for an opinion only take the 'over' on the second half line.

**jbizzle** · 09-19-11, 09:22 PM

what do you think about the rams -.5? Think theres a good chance they will lose by 14 or less?

**jbizzle** · 09-19-11, 10:05 PM

nice pick again john! lets get one more score

**Jay2k1civic** · 09-19-11, 10:07 PM

$$$for 43.5 and a PUSH right now with one quarter left..... hoping to celebrate early in the 4th!

**Jcm144** · 09-19-11, 10:43 PM

Wow that stings, Wasn't able to watch the game on tv.....but saw it was 4th and 1, and the Giants really decided to go for it, then kicking the field goal and giving us the over.

**fecgp40** · 09-19-11, 10:46 PM

Terrible!!!! Not a single point scored in the 4th quarter! Seriously????

The over was the right call here. Nice pick John. Push is better than a loss.

**Jay Harry** · 09-19-11, 10:48 PM

that 4th quarter killed me no field goal on 4th and one!!!!!!! oh well. You capped great this week john. ty for all the units!