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  • littlekona
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-19-15
    • 5242

    #21631
    Originally posted by harthebar
    Hey kona congrats on your score well deserved. Great communication from all ...
    Ive hit a couple using yours too esp with your stable alerts. the insight here is great some real pro's and great info. Me I like to put a skeleton ticket with my pics then check here for what you guys like and add to mine if I can....
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    • harthebar
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-09-11
      • 15708

      #21632
      Your The Best and Sneer is scheduled to run today in Race 8 at Gulfstream Park.
      Your the best first time broke late spotted the field about 15 made his move coming around the first turn .then coming to top of stretch had to zig zag bumped a few horses finished well
      Sneer was a game second the the heavy favorite pleasant otb last was pressured on the lead just about the entire race help his own at the wire 2nd best
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      • kmarinouofm
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-26-09
        • 8437

        #21633
        Kid thanks for the winner yesterday.. let me know who you like the best today when you aren’t busy pal
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        • harthebar
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-09-11
          • 15708

          #21634
          Originally posted by littlekona
          Ive hit a couple using yours too esp with your stable alerts. the insight here is great some real pro's and great info. Me I like to put a skeleton ticket with my pics then check here for what you guys like and add to mine if I can....
          That's a smart move. I do the same. A little of this a little of that. A little of mine. Try putting the puzzle together .... no body gets every race. That's why I feel this forum is so special. You get the best cappers and there thoughts . And this is where they are. No B. S. SALE pitch. Just a bunch of good guys doing there work and sharing . I learn something everyday from just reading this ......we never stop learning. And correcting our mistakes and every now and then we make a nice score ... it's all about the puzzle .and trying to find the clues. Ha ha. Get another today kona
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          • harthebar
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-09-11
            • 15708

            #21635
            Oaklawn race 8
            Blip says bye. Shows a lot of speed last two were descent .long odds
            Lil miss moppett and trapped N my mind both ran sharp races finished 2nd and 3rd to inshannity on 4/10 first time starter odds on even money ....won easy
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            • Seastriper
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-28-14
              • 237

              #21636
              Originally posted by harthebar
              That's a smart move. I do the same. A little of this a little of that. A little of mine. Try putting the puzzle together .... no body gets every race. That's why I feel this forum is so special. You get the best cappers and there thoughts . And this is where they are. No B. S. SALE pitch. Just a bunch of good guys doing there work and sharing . I learn something everyday from just reading this ......we never stop learning. And correcting our mistakes and every now and then we make a nice score ... it's all about the puzzle .and trying to find the clues. Ha ha. Get another today kona
              AMEN to that! 6 years in the background and I love what all you guys do for us! The good days and bad days! Thank you EVERYONE for all you do for us d!p$hits that have no clue! ROFL
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              • JayTris07
                SBR MVP
                • 05-10-14
                • 3010

                #21637
                Sunday 04-26

                Good Luck to all,

                GP R1


                WP #3
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                • JayTris07
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-10-14
                  • 3010

                  #21638
                  Originally posted by JayTris07
                  Good Luck to all,

                  GP R1


                  WP #3


                  My bad, supposed to be my thread.
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                  • harthebar
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-09-11
                    • 15708

                    #21639
                    Kid did you post today. ??
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                    • cjwatsonfan32
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-24-11
                      • 1640

                      #21640
                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                      Good , be scared


                      I will say you have never steered me wrong.
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                      • littlekona
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-19-15
                        • 5242

                        #21641
                        Arkansas derby card out Baffert chalks in all 3 of the big stakes...Beatable in 2 of 3
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                        • Louisvillekid1
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-17-07
                          • 52143

                          #21642
                          Hey guys, checking in

                          I got bombed last night , punishing myself for not having that pick 5

                          but my thread (s) all about helping others

                          let me review the thread , and I’ll grade the tracking threads tomorrow

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                          • littlekona
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-19-15
                            • 5242

                            #21643
                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                            Hey guys, checking in

                            I got bombed last night , punishing myself for not having that pick 5

                            but my thread (s) all about helping others

                            let me review the thread , and I’ll grade the tracking threads tomorrow

                            Watch oaklawn race 3 replay i needed 2...sick like yours yesterday
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #21644
                              Originally posted by JBEX
                              kid is this the pick 5 strategy you like to employ on occasion

                              pick 5

                              2×2×2×2×2 =32
                              4×4×4×4×4 =1024 (32×32)

                              if 2 in each leg are "key" horses
                              if 2 in each leg are "secondary" horses

                              (for ease of explaining 4 horses total/leg )

                              main ticket =32 combos

                              key horses each leg (2) with the secondary horses in each leg (2)
                              32 ×5 (legs)=160 secondary combos

                              6 tickets =192 combos
                              vs 1024 (4×4×4×4×4) combos

                              so now if 4 of 5 of your key horses win and the losing leg is won by a secondary horse you hit the pick 5..and that's reasonable expectation..if you miss one leg with your mains should be your secondary picks that saves you
                              I like the A/B spread tickets , I’m against the A/A/A/A/C , tickets

                              my advice on multi race bets to guys , is play Pick 4 with one True single , Pick 5 w/ 2 ... pick 6 with 3

                              and play carryover days / mandatory days

                              I’m not playing again until Friday / Saturday and just Arky

                              can’t wait , they gonna top Florida derby day
                              Last edited by Louisvillekid1; 04-26-20, 07:38 PM.
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                              • Louisvillekid1
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-17-07
                                • 52143

                                #21645
                                Originally posted by cjwatsonfan32
                                Those finales scare me. Feels like the favorite loses quite a bit.
                                My bad buddy, drank bottle and half of vodka
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                                • Louisvillekid1
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-17-07
                                  • 52143

                                  #21646
                                  Originally posted by littlekona
                                  I still feel sick you didn't hit that too. Santana doesn't do a "paco" and pushes button top of stretch we both Hit and it pays 3K+
                                  Nah man ,

                                  Im just glad guys making money , using the info

                                  that’s what I’m all about
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                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-17-07
                                    • 52143

                                    #21647
                                    Originally posted by harthebar
                                    Great job with the numbers. Helping each other out and putting the puzzle together is great . That's what it's all about
                                    Cheers har , I wish you detail what you playing , you can’t just be betting every horse in your stable

                                    Thanks for helping us
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #21648
                                      Originally posted by 53 defense
                                      Kid,

                                      Question...Why do you pay attention to shippers? How is that factored into handicappin Thoros...


                                      I'm an old harness guy.....whats the parallel for Pacers?
                                      Well you guys run every week, if they don’t run for 2 weeks it’s a layoff and all about post position

                                      I try to handicapp in the eyes of the connections

                                      it’s a trying time currently, so doesn’t play as big a part, but when everything open, certain connections aren’t shipping for purse money, there is a reason why they choose the extra expenditures

                                      when New York opens back up, I’ll give you a perfect idea, of local shippers from finger lakes

                                      and after covid it will make more sense

                                      remind me
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                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-17-07
                                        • 52143

                                        #21649
                                        Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                        Kid thanks for the winner yesterday.. let me know who you like the best today when you aren’t busy pal
                                        Wasn’t a winner!!!

                                        i know you prob had place

                                        but it really shoulda been

                                        any time tho my man
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #21650
                                          Originally posted by harthebar
                                          That's a smart move. I do the same. A little of this a little of that. A little of mine. Try putting the puzzle together .... no body gets every race. That's why I feel this forum is so special. You get the best cappers and there thoughts . And this is where they are. No B. S. SALE pitch. Just a bunch of good guys doing there work and sharing . I learn something everyday from just reading this ......we never stop learning. And correcting our mistakes and every now and then we make a nice score ... it's all about the puzzle .and trying to find the clues. Ha ha. Get another today kona
                                          Love this post

                                          I learn everyday from you guys
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #21651
                                            Originally posted by littlekona
                                            Arkansas derby card out Baffert chalks in all 3 of the big stakes...Beatable in 2 of 3
                                            Yes , the split division I don’t like, but understand they can only hold 14

                                            Before digging in, first thoughts

                                            I like the aces in the first division , #1 Charlton #11 Basin

                                            my dad told me Charlton was gonna win derby , last year , but I need to see it and I can’t quit on Basin

                                            In the 2nd division , obv nadal , Farmington road , wells bayou

                                            ...

                                            depending on sequence , I’ll be using both Flavian Pratt’s horses

                                            as he’s coming back for this

                                            and I don’t think baffert is lock

                                            what nadal did last time was nuts,

                                            not ready to crown the next effort after that

                                            also Farmington road is only using because Javy coming back

                                            I’ll have full write ups for fri / sat , mid / late week
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #21652
                                              Ok caught up ,

                                              love you guys

                                              ill grade other threads tomorrow , after work
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                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-17-07
                                                • 52143

                                                #21653
                                                Originally posted by 53 defense
                                                Kid,

                                                Question...Why do you pay attention to shippers? How is that factored into handicappin Thoros...


                                                I'm an old harness guy.....whats the parallel for Pacers?
                                                I’ll add and give you a mortal lock

                                                if brad cox ever ships Kentucky to Ny

                                                pound pound pound
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                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                  • 52143

                                                  #21654
                                                  Man Friday’s late sequence is tough

                                                  Love that maiden special race

                                                  Onaway, then everyone else I suppose
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                                                  • harthebar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-09-11
                                                    • 15708

                                                    #21655
                                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                    Cheers har , I wish you detail what you playing , you can’t just be betting every horse in your stable

                                                    Thanks for helping us
                                                    Understand your point kid. Will do....much rather being playing belmont.....I'll catch up with you one of these days at charlies... when they open .
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                                                    • harthebar
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-09-11
                                                      • 15708

                                                      #21656
                                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                      Man Friday’s late sequence is tough

                                                      Love that maiden special race

                                                      Onaway, then everyone else I suppose
                                                      Kid what race is that maiden haven't looked yet
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #21657
                                                        6th

                                                        If anyone wants to handicapp Friday’s r10

                                                        please do

                                                        impossible imo , mixture of horses in good form, good horses coming off layoffs and some interesting price horses that didn’t fare well against good company



                                                        its making that sequence almost unplayable

                                                        even I use 2 singles lol

                                                        6x4x1x1x by like 8-10
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                                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-17-07
                                                          • 52143

                                                          #21658
                                                          Just some early thoughts I jotted down for Arky Oaks Day (at least that's what im calling it)


                                                          Friday May 1



                                                          Oaklawn Late pick 5 sequence


                                                          Race 6


                                                          Just an outstanding Mdn 60K field, either you pass on the pick 5 or go cheap. PP 10 Onaway , finished 4th on debut, behind Pnematic, Skol Factor, & Liams Pride, the number came back big, Cox brings in a strong work tab, and Javier rides , coming back from Corona. 1 Fast Cash (6/1) , Ran behind Liams Pride and Violent Pass (who just scored at big number here last week) Should take another step forward.6 Silardi (10/1) , City Zip colt has been working great for this debut, dangerous connections. 7 Mundacious (12/1) , wouldn’t shock me, Jeremiah putting Kendrick aboard this New York shipper, tells they are going to the front. 9 Super Constitution (8/1) & 12 Inis Gluaire (3/1), another pair of promising firsters. I can make cases for more in here as well. #14 J Z My Man (8/1) , Could be dangerous if drawn in.


                                                          1,6,7,9,10,12




                                                          Race 7


                                                          K J’s Nobility should take this , Man in the Can is interesting on the outside.


                                                          Race 8


                                                          Field has plenty of speed for going to this long, #3 Gingham (3/1) , is a stalking runner with tactical speed, shows Bast, Venetian Harbor, Donna Veloce, in the running lines. #5 Daphne Moon (4/1) , Also has plenty of NY back class, and just won going this distance, in a similar spot. (Note that Cohen , goes elsewhere). #7 Strong Flag (9/2) , Finished a length behind the #2 Piece of my heart in the last (who got first run), Should like the added distance. #8 Comical seems like has lost a step this year, and does her best work on the front end, too much pace to wire this distance. #10 Anoinette (8/1) , Finished 3rd in the grade 2 fairgrounds oaks , but was under a snug hold, which I’m guessing was due to being keyed up off the bench. Could get a nice stalking trip here under Johnny V. #11 His Glory (8/1) Amoss is really starting to become a break out trainer, but he’s a one trick pony, and sends almost all his horses. Cohen rides here on a horse that dueled in the G2 Rachael Alexandra vs Finite, British Idiom & Swiss Skydiver. Just think its a huge ask to be sent from the 11 post, vs this projected pace, going this long.


                                                          3,5,7,10


                                                          Race 9


                                                          Im all about Venetian Harbor, not even sold this filly needs or even wants the lead, i just think was so much faster than her competition. Its a very deep field of fillies for sure, and she will not win if in a speed duel with some one these, and if that happens, Javier might be licking his chops on British Idiom.


                                                          But I could single here


                                                          Race 10


                                                          Its hard to ignore the #1 Miss Imperial (4/1) , filly lands in a new barn after 3 straight wins, which comes with a pilot downgrade. Diodoro has the #7 Wholehearted (5/2), in great form. There are 2 horses coming of long layoffs, that clearly fit. #6 Spend Spend Spend (7/2) , #8 La Chancla (4/1) , Several very interesting prices horses, near impossible race to handicapp.


                                                          Not sure I can play this sequence.
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #21659
                                                            They had to draw a few times I heard for the split divisions in arky derby for owners / trainers to be split

                                                            but read an interesting article that suggestions they just want charlton to run or wouldn’t of split

                                                            his division is much weaker than the other
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23422

                                                              #21660
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              6th

                                                              If anyone wants to handicapp Friday’s r10

                                                              please do

                                                              impossible imo , mixture of horses in good form, good horses coming off layoffs and some interesting price horses that didn’t fare well against good company



                                                              its making that sequence almost unplayable

                                                              even I use 2 singles lol

                                                              6x4x1x1x by like 8-10

                                                              #10 unique factor (12-1)

                                                              going beyond the obvious 6 and 7..two back this level good 2nd..trainer tremendous cutbacks. .guessing she's a turf paradise trainer trying oaklawn..never heard of her
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                                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-17-07
                                                                • 52143

                                                                #21661
                                                                Thanks j,

                                                                do you feel it’s as difficult of a race as I do?

                                                                I could make cases for plenty , don’t really wanna back the short price “ in form” horses , don’t really want to Omit the Layoff horses who clearly fit , and like some prices like you mentioned
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #21662
                                                                  Good news coming





                                                                  santa Anita gonna open soon I bet

                                                                  baffert threaten to leave
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23422

                                                                    #21663
                                                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                    Thanks j,

                                                                    do you feel it’s as difficult of a race as I do?

                                                                    I could make cases for plenty , don’t really wanna back the short price “ in form” horses , don’t really want to Omit the Layoff horses who clearly fit , and like some prices like you mentioned

                                                                    I do..if I had to leave out a logical it would be asmussen..bad off a layoff and wit new acquisitions
                                                                    (at least roi-wise)..don't care about last race at CT

                                                                    67 tough to leave off but question a little why the 6 was put on the shelf so long after the claim..balas is fantastic at it though but not sure that means anything to me with the layoff
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                                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                                      • 52143

                                                                      #21664
                                                                      Thanks fir the help

                                                                      appreciate it
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23422

                                                                        #21665
                                                                        np..take a lot of balls to leave either of them off the ticket and probably not a good idea
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