John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

**knugen** · 12-25-11, 02:08 PM

Celtic bet looks reaaly good

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 02:23 PM

Whats the Over under on whistles this 4th quarter?

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 02:54 PM

A) bet win

with out buying points.

Season is now 1-0

Chi -1 pending

**thelimit0310** · 12-25-11, 03:42 PM

JM Disciple if thats the way the record was kept in last years thread, then I'll skip the ML filter. No doubt -6 on the spread will be better value than the ML, but it may cost more series losses. If you can confirm we did this last season I'll roll with it.

I have not chosen a definitive way to run my labby yet. Usually my labby is on 2 lines, single line averaging. A/C on 1 B on 2. However I may just run 1 line this season and play A B and C on just 1 line. I'm also experimenting with the 3 line aggressive. 1 line each for A B and C, adding losses to the end but not adding new numbers. Just testing it to see which is more efficient before January. Do you have a proven method for this system? From the looks of it your just using 1 line?

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 05:02 PM

yes, I just use 1 line because i believe it is faster. Also i play all v1 - v3 plays on the same line. Labby system does not need that high of a win rate to clear lines, so shouldn't really matter if you use 1 line or 3 lines. I just like to make my money back faster.

If you check out On3 NHL, i know i seen you in there, he uses 3 line progressive method as well, but he swaps his #s around. He doesnt really have a set strategy for it, just kinda what he feels comfortable with.

I don't really want to waste too much time going through last years thread but i remember we played only buying 3points. We kept a record of JM with his rules, but we all agreed we would ignore the rule. I forgot who else was keeping track of it.

If you link me to last year thread ill take a look, but im just saying ML only caused 1 or 2 more losses and i think wilba did the back test on it and found it was a BS rule.

--JMD

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 05:07 PM

Bulls line moved from -4.5 to -4 but bynum and kobe is out for this game. Kobe is questionable, but still with his right wrist hurt, it wont matter too much.

A) chi -4 i think i had it at and going to play chi -2 1st half as well.

Good luck and Happy Holidays All

--JMD

PS what other systems are you following Limit? Im going to be on JM, chase110, and On3 NHL. Then a couple of my own plays once in a great while when i want to gamble some. I think 3 systems are good, but if you know any others let me know.

**Maxi_EV** · 12-25-11, 05:19 PM

Can Somebody clarify the forum rule vs JM rule regarding teams favorite by more than 3 please?
Thanks in advance

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 06:21 PM

I can confirm that it is a rule, but it is a BS rule used to cover up a loss in a Houston series in previous years. If you want to follow all the rules be my guest. There are also series where JM loses A and B then covers up series loss with Injury filter and says not to bet C.

If you want to stomach the -400 juice at times and chase, then be my guest. The orginal system worked fine just buying 3 points. I will personally not be buying points and just labbying the plays. Seems like it will win just fine with correct labby strategy.

There are upsets even with double digit favorites, so i would not be wagering ML with -3 or more favorites.

**pm9964** · 12-25-11, 06:50 PM

Let's do it

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 07:48 PM

chi (B) 12/26 vs GSW

**Win89** · 12-25-11, 08:51 PM

Didn't get an email from JM on these plays either, maybe he is skipping the opening series that most of us thought we should. Oh well let's cash Bulls tomorrow.

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 09:32 PM

There are different ways to interpret the bulls series. Some people had spread at -2.5 and lost, some had ML, some had -1 and pushed. If you took ML the following the strict JM rules then the series is finished. I am personally going to bet on them vs Warriors tomorrow with regular spread. Bulls are too good of a team not to labby them especially vs the warriors.

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line if its cleared buying 3 points
Unit size $10
Record:1-1 [ATS]
Profit: -$1
Labby Line:
5 5 5 5
5 5 x x (-11) [Todays action 12/25]

Bos +5 $11 to win $10 w
Chi -4 $11 to win $10 L

New Line
$7 / $7 / $7

Chi Bulls [insert spread] (B) to win $14 vs Goldenstate Warriors 12/26/11

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-25-11, 09:37 PM

d

Originally posted by Win89

Didn't get an email from JM on these plays either, maybe he is skipping the opening series that most of us thought we should. Oh well let's cash Bulls tomorrow.

We get this every year. Do you really need JM to email you the plays? System is based on 3 game road trip and clearly Boston and Bulls both had 3 game road trips to open the season.

JM is shady bussiness you shouldn't let him hold your hand while you cross the street. He will lead you down a dark alley and booty rape you for all you got.

Stick with the Honest people in this forum and you will do much better then listening to JM>

--JMD

**thelimit0310** · 12-25-11, 10:29 PM

Okay guys I will record it without using the ML filter. All plays will be recorded as on the spread with 3 points bought.

December 25

V3 BOSTON +8 @ NY Knicks (A) WIN
V1 CHICAGO ML @ LA Lakers (A) LOSE Unsure how to count this series. My book had a line of -1 after buying points which would have pushed it. I'm counting it as an A bet loss for now.

JM 2011-12 Record

Version 1
A: 0-1
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Version 2
A: 0-0
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Version 3
A: 1-0
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

Totals
A: 1-1
B: 0-0
C: 0-0

**knugen** · 12-26-11, 08:32 AM

76ers is a play today

**Maxi_EV** · 12-26-11, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

I can confirm that it is a rule, but it is a BS rule used to cover up a loss in a Houston series in previous years. If you want to follow all the rules be my guest. There are also series where JM loses A and B then covers up series loss with Injury filter and says not to bet C.

If you want to stomach the -400 juice at times and chase, then be my guest. The orginal system worked fine just buying 3 points. I will personally not be buying points and just labbying the plays. Seems like it will win just fine with correct labby strategy.

There are upsets even with double digit favorites, so i would not be wagering ML with -3 or more favorites.

What will you do with those -3 or more favorites? You will still buy 3 pts? Is that what the original system recommended?

**Win89** · 12-26-11, 11:42 AM

JM is guiding no one in here I was just acknowledging the fact that no emails were sent. I've seen the BS he pulls and I can assure you that getting the plays on your own is a piece of cake and the way to go. I've had my calendars compilled for all versions weeks ago. Now let's make some cash.

**DollarBill10** · 12-26-11, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

There are different ways to interpret the bulls series. Some people had spread at -2.5 and lost, some had ML, some had -1 and pushed. If you took ML the following the strict JM rules then the series is finished. I am personally going to bet on them vs Warriors tomorrow with regular spread. Bulls are too good of a team not to labby them especially vs the warriors.

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line if its cleared buying 3 points
Unit size $10
Record:1-1 [ATS]
Profit: -$1
Labby Line:
5 5 5 5
5 5 x x (-11) [Todays action 12/25]

Bos +5 $11 to win $10 w
Chi -4 $11 to win $10 L

New Line
$7 / $7 / $7

Chi Bulls [insert spread] (B) to win $14 vs Goldenstate Warriors 12/26/11

So, JM...what would be the amount you would wager on the (A) Philadelphia bet today? I am just trying to follow along with you. :-)

**Win89** · 12-26-11, 11:50 AM

Bulls currently at -6.5

**DustyDiamond** · 12-26-11, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by knugen

76ers is a play today

which version?

**Win89** · 12-26-11, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by DustyDiamond

which version?

V1. They got Portland, Phoenix, and Utah.

**jcygts6** · 12-26-11, 12:51 PM

Yes philadephia is a v1 Play indeed

**thelimit0310** · 12-26-11, 01:41 PM

December 26

V1 PHILADELPHIA +7.5 @ Portland (A)
V1 CHICAGO -3.5 @ Golden State Warriors (B)

NOTE: The Bulls series is only a B play depending on the line you took last night, the official record will be counting it as a play today.

Spreads posted here already include 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favs greater than -3.

**lawalahmed** · 12-26-11, 02:34 PM

@JM Displine, last yr, we count with buying 3 points not moneyline....

**lawalahmed** · 12-26-11, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

December 26

V1 PHILADELPHIA +7.5 @ Portland (A)
V1 CHICAGO -3.5 @ Golden State Warriors (B)

NOTE: The Bulls series is only a B play depending on the line you took last night, the official record will be counting it as a play today.

Spreads posted here already include 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favs greater than -3.

To get accurate result u have to base ur result on one sport book close line. Last yr i thk d other guy base it on cover close line or so..

**Maxi_EV** · 12-26-11, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

Back testing has proved that you should not play the A Bet. You should only play the B and C Bets, betting to win 3 units (3 x what you would have tried to win with the A Bet).

Good luck everyone

Is that only for v1?

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-26-11, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by lawalahmed

@JM Displine, last yr, we count with buying 3 points not moneyline....

Thats what ive been saying....

**J.M. Disciple** · 12-26-11, 04:28 PM

JM NBA road System
Since 12/25/2011
Add 1 unit to the line if its cleared buying 3 points
Unit size $10
Record:1-1 [ATS]
Profit: -$1
Units cleared: 1
Units in play: 2.1
Total Series: 3 (2Pending)

Labby Line:
5 5 (-$11)

Bos +5 $11 to win $10 (A) Win
Chi -4 $11 to win $10 (A) Loss

New Line
$7 / $7 / $7

12/26/2011 10:05 PM NBA Basketball 721 Philadelphia 76ers* +5 -110 vs Portland Trailblazers
Risking $11.55 To Win $10.50 (A)
12/26/2011 10:35 PM NBA Basketball 723 Chicago Bulls* -6½ -110 vs Golden State Warriors
Risking $11.55 To Win $10.50 (B)

*If I lose both bets I will add 2 #s to my line and average out the #s. If I win 1 bet and lose the other I will take the $10.5 + $11.55 and divide by 2 still crossing off 1 # in the process. If I win both then obviously cross off all 3 numbers.

*I am not buying points, I am not chasing martingale style, just a simple 2 strike labby approach.

Good Luck
JMD

**stevex** · 12-26-11, 06:16 PM

Funded my account and am ready to rock and roll. Implementing the labby and using SBP's 2 NBA systems and JM's 3 Versions not buying any points...(love that -110)

Lets make that money tonight!

**Wallco99** · 12-26-11, 07:01 PM

I see there at least two different versions of JM system being posted already, can someone please post it by the actual JM rules, the way it was done last season, and can just one person do it? Perhaps the same guy who did it last year, krzychu78. It was very neat and organized updates, which were clear and very easy to read. No rules were changed, this is the way that it should be. It's day 2 of NBA and there are already too many hands in the pot. One guy not buying points, another guy not playing M/L. Just post the plays the way they were intended and let each person decide for themselves how to play it.

**Wallco99** · 12-26-11, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by stevex

Funded my account and am ready to rock and roll. Implementing the labby and using SBP's 2 NBA systems and JM's 3 Versions not buying any points...(love that -110)

Lets make that money tonight!

Welcome back, are you also playing the -110 on favorites, or just the dog teams? I forget what I did last year.

**stevex** · 12-26-11, 07:36 PM

I've always not bought the points and just played -110 and when using the labby it works perfect.

**Wallco99** · 12-26-11, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by stevex

I've always not bought the points and just played -110 and when using the labby it works perfect.

So you're not playing M/L on favorites, you are giving up points at -110 on them too?

**pimike** · 12-26-11, 07:42 PM

Some people.

**thelimit0310** · 12-26-11, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

I see there at least two different versions of JM system being posted already, can someone please post it by the actual JM rules, the way it was done last season, and can just one person do it? Perhaps the same guy who did it last year, krzychu78. It was very neat and organized updates, which were clear and very easy to read. No rules were changed, this is the way that it should be. It's day 2 of NBA and there are already too many hands in the pot. One guy not buying points, another guy not playing M/L. Just post the plays the way they were intended and let each person decide for themselves how to play it.

Wallco
From what I've been told and my experience last year the plays were recorded the same way I am recording them. A perfect example is if you look at krzychu78's list of losses for V1 last year, you will see Phoenix. Phoenix was not official to JM because Nash was out with an injury, yet we played it anyway. I am recording it the way he did. The only dispute is the ML, whatever the consensus is here, I'll record it accordingly.

I am the only one posting a record. I am posting plays with 3 points bought as per rule, and JM Disciple is posting plays with a labby.

Seems concise to me, but you started the thread, I can hand over the reigns and I'm sure everyone would be fine with just following your post. I've put up the schedule on pg 3 so it only takes minimal effort to follow to begin with.