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  • Love The Action
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-08-10
    • 10952

    #11061
    My local just hung 175 on the next Boston/Philly game and when I went to lock in a play at 5x, the website switched down to 5D's opener of 174. Damn.....
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    • Love The Action
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-08-10
      • 10952

      #11062
      NBA 2011-2012 Playoffs 5/19/2012

      Play #1

      Thunder (-1) 3x (Locked)

      I'm going to take a shot with the zig zag here with a younger team, with seemingly fresher legs and perhaps a bit more hunger than the veteran-laden Lakers. I could be wrong, but I think this is the Thunder's game to lose. Yesterday, the Thunder lost by 3 as 3 point dogs at close. Nevertheless, the books open at or around a PK with immediate money toward OKC. I think early sharp money is rolling with the zig zag here and so am I because I just don't think the free throw disparity will be so distinct this game, nor do I expect a seemingly average Lakers free throw shooting team hit 97% of its attempts two nights in a row. The Thunder were top 5 in the league in drawing fouls and making their foul shots. The Lakers were not even in the picture. I think the season averages play out and OKC asserts itself in this game to give itself an elimination shot at home. I don't think we'll see this much value on OKC again and I am rolling with the Thunder for 3x. Good luck.
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      • Les_Nuts
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-01-12
        • 931

        #11063
        Originally posted by Love The Action
        NBA 2011-2012 Playoffs 5/19/2012

        Play #1

        Thunder (-1) 3x (Locked)

        I'm going to take a shot with the zig zag here with a younger team, with seemingly fresher legs and perhaps a bit more hunger than the veteran-laden Lakers. I could be wrong, but I think this is the Thunder's game to lose. Yesterday, the Thunder lost by 3 as 3 point dogs at close. Nevertheless, the books open at or around a PK with immediate money toward OKC. I think early sharp money is rolling with the zig zag here and so am I because I just don't think the free throw disparity will be so distinct this game, nor do I expect a seemingly average Lakers free throw shooting team hit 97% of its attempts two nights in a row. The Thunder were top 5 in the league in drawing fouls and making their foul shots. The Lakers were not even in the picture. I think the season averages play out and OKC asserts itself in this game to give itself an elimination shot at home. I don't think we'll see this much value on OKC again and I am rolling with the Thunder for 3x. Good luck.
        Really like this play, I think pinny opened late last night at Lakers -2.5 rather than a PK, which makes the play even stronger because the sharps are seemingly all over them
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        • CheeseHead
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-03-10
          • 439

          #11064
          Originally posted by Love The Action
          My local just hung 175 on the next Boston/Philly game and when I went to lock in a play at 5x, the website switched down to 5D's opener of 174. Damn.....
          So wouldn't under 174 still qualify for at least a 1x play then or you don't think the total will go any lower?

          Also, are you considering playing the Heat again?
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          • Love The Action
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-08-10
            • 10952

            #11065
            Originally posted by Les_Nuts
            Really like this play, I think pinny opened late last night at Lakers -2.5 rather than a PK, which makes the play even stronger because the sharps are seemingly all over them
            That number never really existed though. They hung -2.5 on the Lakeshow that was at -1 (+108) within 1 minute. No one had a realistic shot at getting that number. The line move was instantaneous.
            Last edited by Love The Action; 05-19-12, 11:43 AM.
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            • Love The Action
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-08-10
              • 10952

              #11066
              Originally posted by CheeseHead
              So wouldn't under 174 still qualify for at least a 1x play then or you don't think the total will go any lower?

              Also, are you considering playing the Heat again?
              Going to wait and see what happens with the line. Hopefully it will go up a half point....

              Undecided about the Heat. They are very tough to back because you don't know what to expect out of Wade. If he plays well, they should win. If not, they won't have a chance. As you can see, however, the books are sure respecting them without even thinking before installing them as favorites despite the loss.
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              • wguan2
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-13-11
                • 814

                #11067
                i think okc is the play but the fact that the books opened at 2.5, a larger number than the opener for game 3. i admit, the line move from +2.5 to -1 is evident of something but i dont know that it is sharp money. it could possibly be just money on okc because of the reasons you said, free throw disparity and a seemingly close game that okc should've won. however, we have to keep in mind that this is lakers homecourt and they've been pretty good at home to be dogs.
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                • Love The Action
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-08-10
                  • 10952

                  #11068
                  Originally posted by wguan2
                  i think okc is the play but the fact that the books opened at 2.5, a larger number than the opener for game 3. i admit, the line move from +2.5 to -1 is evident of something but i dont know that it is sharp money. it could possibly be just money on okc because of the reasons you said, free throw disparity and a seemingly close game that okc should've won. however, we have to keep in mind that this is lakers homecourt and they've been pretty good at home to be dogs.
                  The game opened at PK at every book except for Pinny. Pinny opened at +-2.5 at 1:45 a.m. That number lasted all of a few minutes and was immediately hit hard. Who do you think is up at 1:45 am waiting to jump on a number and hit it hard? No one can say for sure, but my educated opinion is that it is a number of informed investors who know what they are doing. I know it's not Joe six pack waiting to pound OKC at 1 in the morning, that's for sure.
                  Last edited by Love The Action; 05-19-12, 12:16 PM.
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                  • YOUNGBUCK
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-16-10
                    • 6510

                    #11069
                    Lakers
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                    • wguan2
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-13-11
                      • 814

                      #11070
                      I can see your point lta. The line only stood for about 15 to 20 minutes. Good luck on your play. I was just wondering why you were playing it for 3 units after losing value on the line and also as you say "you're taking a chance".
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                      • Love The Action
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-08-10
                        • 10952

                        #11071
                        Originally posted by wguan2
                        I can see your point lta. The line only stood for about 15 to 20 minutes. Good luck on your play. I was just wondering why you were playing it for 3 units after losing value on the line and also as you say "you're taking a chance".
                        I said i was going to take a "shot" not a "chance." Playing aggressive after researching the data is different from rolling the dice. However, we all take a chance every time we make a wager. In addition, I didn't lose value on a number that never existed for me. Semantics aside, the best I and 99% of the market could have done is a pk. My model has OKC -2 and I don't think it's even that close. I expect a 4 point or more victory by OKC tonight and whether I played them at a pk or -1 really does not matter to me considering the worst I can do is a push if I am correct. Consequently, I'll take a shot with OKC for 3x considering you are unlikely to find such value on them again as they will be set at -8 or more going back to OKC.
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                        • Manel88
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 03-19-12
                          • 191

                          #11072
                          Originally posted by Love The Action
                          The game opened at PK at every book except for Pinny. Pinny opened at +-2.5 at 1:45 a.m. That number lasted all of a few minutes and was immediately hit hard. Who do you think is up at 1:45 am waiting to jump on a number and hit it hard? No one can say for sure, but my educated opinion is that it is a number of informed investors who know what they are doing. I know it's not Joe six pack waiting to pound OKC at 1 in the morning, that's for sure.
                          LTA, sorry to bother you again but just a question... i understand your point but when you say that at 1:45 pm, the people who are betting are the "best" ones but... you know that in other parts of the world the time is diferent so, it can be like 13:45pm...you understand my point?

                          I would like you to explain me better about that part of your sentence
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                          • Love The Action
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 10952

                            #11073
                            Originally posted by Manel88
                            LTA, sorry to bother you again but just a question... i understand your point but when you say that at 1:45 pm, the people who are betting are the "best" ones but... you know that in other parts of the world the time is diferent so, it can be like 13:45pm...you understand my point?

                            I would like you to explain me better about that part of your sentence
                            It's not that complicated nor is it a very significant reason for this play. That was just a small factor to mention more than anything else. People can be too infatuated with line movement as evidenced by the resulting comments from that blurb. With that said, the point of my comment was not about time it was about the type of investor who bets opening numbers. The uninformed casual bettors do not wager on openers no matter what time of the day the line comes out. The only people betting openers are relatively informed investors who have a plan, whether that's looking for an arb or otherwise. The fact remains that early money liked OKC, however, that does not guarantee anything because using line movement as the sole basis for a play is a sure way to blow a BR. In this case, I am interpreting line movement as just one reason to add to my stake on this play. GL.
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                            • WVU9494
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-14-11
                              • 333

                              #11074
                              Good point


                              Originally posted by YOUNGBUCK
                              Lakers
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                              • wguan2
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-13-11
                                • 814

                                #11075
                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                It's not that complicated nor is it a very significant reason for this play. That was just a small factor to mention more than anything else. People can be too infatuated with line movement as evidenced by the resulting comments from that blurb. With that said, the point of my comment was not about time it was about the type of investor who bets opening numbers. The uninformed casual bettors do not wager on openers no matter what time of the day the line comes out. The only people betting openers are relatively informed investors who have a plan, whether that's looking for an arb or otherwise. The fact remains that early money liked OKC, however, that does not guarantee anything because using line movement as the sole basis for a play is a sure way to blow a BR. In this case, I am interpreting line movement as just one reason to add to my stake on this play. GL.
                                We're all just trying to learn from you. Thanks for the info you provided and taking the time to do it. Bol on your play!
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                                • aussieH
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-04-11
                                  • 1188

                                  #11076
                                  Any consideration for the Over on the B2B in the Laker & Thunder game?
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #11077
                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                    That number never really existed though. They hung -2.5 on the Lakeshow that was at -1 (+108) within 1 minute. No one had a realistic shot at getting that number. The line move was instantaneous.
                                    It was 2.5 or 2 for at least 15 minutes.
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                                    • absolutkaos
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-29-11
                                      • 213

                                      #11078
                                      Thunder -1.5 (-110) now on Bet365
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                                      • Catchn_Picks
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-02-11
                                        • 2984

                                        #11079
                                        Originally posted by absolutkaos
                                        Thunder -1.5 (-110) now on Bet365
                                        Yea, pretty much now -1.5 across the board on and offshore. I found a cheap line and played in on the money line. I just didn't want to hang that hook.
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                                        • WVU9494
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 11-14-11
                                          • 333

                                          #11080
                                          Come on Thunder, get this!!!!!!!!!
                                          Last edited by WVU9494; 05-20-12, 12:05 AM.
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                                          • Vinnie Paz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-27-12
                                            • 12177

                                            #11081
                                            Originally posted by WVU9494
                                            Big win on the angles last night and then give it all back, and more, on this clowns pick, again
                                            Bro.

                                            Ive seen you come into buddys threads and slam his picks and knock on him for a bad streak, so why is it you continue to follow and go in on his plays? Just comeup with your own, you wont feel as bad/angry about a loss.... or find somebody else to follow.
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                                            • Vinnie Paz
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-27-12
                                              • 12177

                                              #11082
                                              Not to mention thr games still in progress.
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                                              • WVU9494
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 11-14-11
                                                • 333

                                                #11083
                                                I'm just messin around vinny, the guy knows his stuff is why I follow him.
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                                                • Vinnie Paz
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-27-12
                                                  • 12177

                                                  #11084
                                                  Hah ok man. Check ur pm too bro

                                                  God bless you Durant
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                                                  • BigBoi
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-01-11
                                                    • 1084

                                                    #11085
                                                    Nice to have variance on our side for once.
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                                                    • ph0208
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 03-06-12
                                                      • 44

                                                      #11086
                                                      Durant is a cold blooded killer!
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                                                      • ses_d
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-06-12
                                                        • 1248

                                                        #11087
                                                        alright this def. makes up for last nights bs lost on the under!
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                                                        • WVU9494
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 11-14-11
                                                          • 333

                                                          #11088
                                                          Interested to hear what LTA comes up with but I love the heat Tom (and hate them in general), wade and Lebrun are going to have a killer instinct.
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                                                          • MrXYZ
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-18-11
                                                            • 2342

                                                            #11089
                                                            Originally posted by BigBoi
                                                            Nice to have variance on our side for once.
                                                            The Gambling Gods were kind tonight. Comebacks to cash both plays (was on Spurs too), I still can't believe it! Thanks LTA!
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                                                            • Love The Action
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 10952

                                                              #11090
                                                              Originally posted by WVU9494
                                                              Big win on the angles last night and then give it all back, and more, on this clowns pick, again.
                                                              More misspelling and bad grammar (improper comma use) from the alleged Phd.
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                                                              • Love The Action
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 10952

                                                                #11091
                                                                NBA 2011-2012 Regular Season

                                                                135 - 122 = +3.65x

                                                                NBA 2011-2012 Playoffs 5/19/2012 Recap

                                                                1 - 0 = +3x

                                                                NBA 2011-2012 Playoffs

                                                                15 - 11 = +10.15X

                                                                NBA 2011-2012 Season

                                                                149 - 133 = +13.8x

                                                                Good luck on Sunday.
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                                                                • Manel88
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 03-19-12
                                                                  • 191

                                                                  #11092
                                                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                  It's not that complicated nor is it a very significant reason for this play. That was just a small factor to mention more than anything else. People can be too infatuated with line movement as evidenced by the resulting comments from that blurb. With that said, the point of my comment was not about time it was about the type of investor who bets opening numbers. The uninformed casual bettors do not wager on openers no matter what time of the day the line comes out. The only people betting openers are relatively informed investors who have a plan, whether that's looking for an arb or otherwise. The fact remains that early money liked OKC, however, that does not guarantee anything because using line movement as the sole basis for a play is a sure way to blow a BR. In this case, I am interpreting line movement as just one reason to add to my stake on this play. GL.
                                                                  Thank you very much LTA...didnt't follow you cause im a Lakers fan...congrats
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                                                                  • Love The Action
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                                    • 10952

                                                                    #11093
                                                                    Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                    It was 2.5 or 2 for at least 15 minutes.
                                                                    99% of the market had no access to that number. It was only available at one book -- albeit the most influential -- and only for an extremely small window at an off hour for the largest percentage of investors.
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                                                                    • Love The Action
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                                      • 10952

                                                                      #11094
                                                                      Looks like the Heat are getting support from the masses. I see around 70% of all spread and ML wagers backing the Heat. Not that it really matters, but I expected more people to back Indy in this game....
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                                                                      • MikeyD323
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-09-12
                                                                        • 1454

                                                                        #11095
                                                                        Whats the picks today LTA???
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