oh, does anyone have the link to the SBP thread, cant seem to find the right one...
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Wilba
SBR Wise Guy
10-29-10
702
#2277
Originally posted by atari5200
i may not write on this thread but i watch it and last year's very closely. played the system for 3 years.
it would be great to see all of us move forward with this not spend the majority of posts repeating personal strategies. we appreciate the strategy talk but we need to get back to clarifying A, B, C bets and the versions. Then we make sure its a go and we place the correct % of BR on it.
too many posts dominated by only a few, Wilba in particular, but again your thoughts and ideas are appreciated and useful. Let's just focus on the priority of knowing which bet from which, confirm it, and then we can get back to strategy talk.
what do you guys think?
Boston (unofficial) B V3
Minnesota A V2
Cleveland (again) A V2
now you guys think this is correct?
spreadsheets posted on this thread have some errors but thanks for the work you put into it.
i find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone would need to ask others to clarify system bets, all you have to do is look them up on the teams webpage. Why are you asking for clarification on system bets if you already know what they are?
I have had a lot of people tell me that they really appreciated the posts that I have made, but in light of you apparently not liking me posting, from this point onwards I will not post unless specifically requested by someone else. If I am specifically requested by someone else to post I will respond, apart from that I will not post at all.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#2278
Originally posted by ghislaine
oh, does anyone have the link to the SBP thread, cant seem to find the right one...
You will like SBP....
He is 21-1 with the Original System...( 20-13 in W/L )
DONT join him...all plays are in Service Plays everyday..
Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#2279
Originally posted by ghislaine
oh, does anyone have the link to the SBP thread, cant seem to find the right one...
He also has a Reloaded NBA System that started off slow but
is now 17-2 in System Wins....( 16-15 in W/L)
Remember ...anything over 40% is profitable with Labourchere...
At present...I only play the Original.....coz I got other income
streams I prefer better than Reloaded..
Again ...no buying points ...and dont worry so much about the 2 System losses..
Its all not that relevant with the labby.....
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Aroostika
SBR Rookie
12-04-10
13
#2280
My labby lines have kept me somewhat sane throughout this crap of a week. That being said, my gosh, my lines are so freakin' long now! If we don't get a bunch of [A] wins, then my lines will probably end up running through baseball season.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#2281
Originally posted by Aroostika
My labby lines have kept me somewhat sane throughout this crap of a week. That being said, my gosh, my lines are so freakin' long now! If we don't get a bunch of [A] wins, then my lines will probably end up running through baseball season.
How many lines R U running with Morrison ???
And how many variables in each line.....
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#2282
JW, what other systems are u using that works good?
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#2283
Originally posted by knugen
JW, what other systems are u using that works good?
My main interest is my personal stuff I have been doing
for quite some time.....
..pretty complicated.....ya got to chart every NBA and NHL game played
I dont do Morrison as it is outlined in his pdf's...but EVERY road series
of at least 3 games is looked at....
And of course ..there is SBP...and the CRUSHER ...both basketball
and hockey are solid.....right now..his hockey is out performing his
buckets....
...and there is some hockey things I look at...
How about you ? What do you do ????
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ToTheHole
SBR Rookie
09-28-10
40
#2284
Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
Wow have you been following the system at all? Lets look at all the A bets that won this month.
12/01/10 ORlando A
12/4 Cleveland lost C
12/5 GSW A
12/5 MEM A
12/5 Wash B
12/6 OKC A
12/6 Miami A
12/7 Denver series canceled after A bet loss
12/7 Detroit Lost C
12/8 MIami A
12/8 Lakers A
12/9 Boston A
12/10 Portland A
ITs ok though A wager hasn't won in forever even though it has won 9 out of 13 series so far on A level this month.
I'm quite clearly talking of V1 and notice i used the operable word "seems". And Denver A was a play.
Ya...
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knugen
SBR MVP
12-09-09
2612
#2285
Now i'm on SBP pretty hard, he is really good right now.. And i'm also doing JM but for much smaller bets
So u looking on every 3-road series but only play that one u think looking good? And no buying points? How have that been doing?
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#2286
MEM +1 (I FEEL SHOULD BE THE FAVORITE OF -3)
DET -2 (THEY HAVE A BETTER TEAM AND BOUND TO COVER A SPREAD LOL)
TOR VS DETROIT UNDER 199.5 (BOTH TEAMS SUCK I THINK SPREAD IS WAY TOO HIGH THE WAY THEY ARE SHOOTING)
MIN +9 (HOPING CHIC STEPS OFF THE GAS AFTER A TOUGH WIN VS LAL)
MIN CHIC UNDER 205 (BOTH TEAMS PLAYING BACK TO BACK NIGHTS UNLIKELY IT GOES OVER)
UTAH +5 (THEY WILL TRY TO BREAK DALLAS WIN STREAK)
HOU -8.5 (SCORING A BUNCH OF POINTS AND CLEVELAND JUST FLAT OUT SUCKS)
UTAH VS DAL OVER 193.5 (TOTAL WAS AT 192 AND CHANGED TWICE WHILE I WAS PLACING MY BET)
As for John Morrison system bets: Skipping both A bets and waiting for B and C to come around as wilba stated. A wagers over the long hall win 61% of the time. If you get -170 odds you need at least 63% to break even, there for A wagers are losing wagers long run.
Min might be a double digit under dog qualifier for Tripple play system, idk what the Money line is though, has to be at least +500.
NHL no team +.500 has lost 3 in a row.
BOL to all.
This will be the first day actually keeping track of my own bets.
These are the games i see so far. Betus hasn't put up the Miami vs Sac game yet. They dont know if they should give miami -20 or not. I would take miami -9 or lower and sac +10 or more.
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dukipl
SBR Sharp
04-08-09
376
#2287
So we have the first official V1 loss with Detroit loosing the c bet
As for other bets: Denver won on c bet without Melo!
The SYSTEM Stats
V1 is: 15-2 at the moment (counting Phoenix vs. Miami loss on a bet)
V2 is: 5-1
Next JM bets:
v1 Orlando [c bet] vs. LAC (tommorow)
v1 LAL [b bet] vs. NY Nets (tommorow)
v2 Cleveland [a bet] vs. Houston (Cavaliers opened yesterday +9,5) (this play is today)
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vinsanity
SBR Rookie
11-19-10
5
#2288
Originally posted by Wilba
YES a very bad streak. the worst I have ever seen in fact.
And JW i know you do a variation labby with no points, thats different, i was talking about strict labby when you buy the points, coz with 7 striaght losses and big juice a strict labby would look a little nasty i think! im sure the way you do it it is ok though
Might be a bad streak because it is the beginning of the season, most bad teams are still in contention to be in the mix for a playoff spot. It will take a few more weeks for the bad teams to realize they don't have any chance and the good teams to start running away with things. I don't care what anyone says about competitiveness, bad teams usually give up a little along the way and good teams with no worries play more relaxed.
It's starting to take shape now but there are a lot of bubble teams that can go either way and it seems that is what most of the bets are on.
Just my opinion, probably wrong though seeing that both times I've seen a series thru to the C bet I've lost. V3 and now V1.
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mattd83
SBR Hustler
01-22-09
84
#2289
I know most of you get pissed when someone asks a question that's probably buried in this thread somewhere. However, I do have a quick question:
What's the difference in the 3 versions of JM?
I'm reading this thread on my phone so it's not necessarily easy to read through 154 pages of posts
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Nius
SBR Hustler
04-30-10
99
#2290
I know it is JM NBA topic, but I can't find JM NHL system topic, so where I can find JM NHL plays?
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million2one
SBR MVP
03-19-09
1290
#2291
V1 = All three road games for the team are out of conference
V2 = 2 of the 3 road games for the team are out of conference
Never heard of V3 I guess it is any three game road trip
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krzychu78
SBR Sharp
01-08-10
291
#2292
Originally posted by Stanley77
I always play the last bet on a series so I would have to wait for a loss on the A and B bets on a team. If it's a 3-game chase, I always wait on the C bet. If it's a 4-game chase, I always wait on the D bet.
Stanley, what do you do when 6-game series happen. Let's say the team is playing A, B, C, D, E, F matches on the road. Do you skip ABC and play DEF only? What if team wins A or B or C - do you still play DEF?
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rkelly110
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-05-09
39691
#2293
Originally posted by Nius
I know it is JM NBA topic, but I can't find JM NHL system topic, so where I can find JM NHL plays?
Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
I just looked it up.
San Jose on 12.2 won
Colorado on 12.3 won on PL
Carolina on 12.4 won (B) on PL
Tampa on 12.7 lost A & B
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rkelly110
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
10-05-09
39691
#2294
Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
MEM +1 (I FEEL SHOULD BE THE FAVORITE OF -3)
DET -2 (THEY HAVE A BETTER TEAM AND BOUND TO COVER A SPREAD LOL)
TOR VS DETROIT UNDER 199.5 (BOTH TEAMS SUCK I THINK SPREAD IS WAY TOO HIGH THE WAY THEY ARE SHOOTING)
MIN +9 (HOPING CHIC STEPS OFF THE GAS AFTER A TOUGH WIN VS LAL)
MIN CHIC UNDER 205 (BOTH TEAMS PLAYING BACK TO BACK NIGHTS UNLIKELY IT GOES OVER)
UTAH +5 (THEY WILL TRY TO BREAK DALLAS WIN STREAK)
HOU -8.5 (SCORING A BUNCH OF POINTS AND CLEVELAND JUST FLAT OUT SUCKS)
UTAH VS DAL OVER 193.5 (TOTAL WAS AT 192 AND CHANGED TWICE WHILE I WAS PLACING MY BET)
As for John Morrison system bets: Skipping both A bets and waiting for B and C to come around as wilba stated. A wagers over the long hall win 61% of the time. If you get -170 odds you need at least 63% to break even, there for A wagers are losing wagers long run.
Min might be a double digit under dog qualifier for Tripple play system, idk what the Money line is though, has to be at least +500.
NHL no team +.500 has lost 3 in a row.
BOL to all.
This will be the first day actually keeping track of my own bets.
These are the games i see so far. Betus hasn't put up the Miami vs Sac game yet. They dont know if they should give miami -20 or not. I would take miami -9 or lower and sac +10 or more.
Thanks Disciple, good info.
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clbonham2
SBR High Roller
05-27-10
125
#2295
Got any parlay picks in mind coming up?
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krzychu78
SBR Sharp
01-08-10
291
#2296
JM's NBA V3 system: 12/10/2010 Portland @ Phoenix - V3, A bet - WIN
V3 record so far (finished series): 17-1
(A): 12-6
(B): 5-1
(C): 0-1
V3 play for today: 12/11/2010 Minnesota @ Chicago - V3, A bet
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Stanley77
SBR Hustler
06-01-09
90
#2297
Originally posted by krzychu78
Stanley, what do you do when 6-game series happen. Let's say the team is playing A, B, C, D, E, F matches on the road. Do you skip ABC and play DEF only? What if team wins A or B or C - do you still play DEF?
Play the first four games of a team playing on a road series of at least 4 games. The bets are only A, B, C, and D. No E, F, G, H, etc. But as I said, I only play the C bets on teams playing exactly 3 road games and the D bets on teams playing at least 4 road games.
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#2298
Originally posted by atari5200
i may not write on this thread but i watch it and last year's very closely. played the system for 3 years.
it would be great to see all of us move forward with this not spend the majority of posts repeating personal strategies. we appreciate the strategy talk but we need to get back to clarifying A, B, C bets and the versions. Then we make sure its a go and we place the correct % of BR on it.
too many posts dominated by only a few, Wilba in particular, but again your thoughts and ideas are appreciated and useful. Let's just focus on the priority of knowing which bet from which, confirm it, and then we can get back to strategy talk.
what do you guys think?
Boston (unofficial) B V3
Minnesota A V2
Cleveland (again) A V2
now you guys think this is correct?
spreadsheets posted on this thread have some errors but thanks for the work you put into it.
I agree these posts for system NBA plays by John a few comments here or there ok fine but some dominate it like u said ole wilbo talking about this or that or who someone else who has their own plays or hunches I could care less I mean sell then if u are that good at it u know
but again some of the goofy comments who may or may not be confused unlike some clowns who say "you can just look them up" true but u may be new to this stuff not a seasoned pro like atari or like myself so u may that want confirmation or want to see that official email from John like myself b/c u are no longer on Johns official list little things like that so yes I agree with atari later
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krzychu78
SBR Sharp
01-08-10
291
#2299
Originally posted by atari5200
Boston (unofficial) B V3
Minnesota A V2
Cleveland (again) A V2
now you guys think this is correct?
I think there's one mistake: Minnesota is V3 not V2 play. Rest of them are correct.
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atari5200
Restricted User
09-15-10
464
#2300
jmjj. respect for that. Wilba i wrote twice in my message that i appreciate your input, ideas and strategies. I recieve JM emails but many don't. we gotta make sure people don't bet on cancelled series or understand what the majority of us are agreeing on as official bets. i don't want to see people losing here. we should have our money on the correct bets. Sure we can look them up nightly, but we come to this thread to make it convenient and support the system players.
all of you, keep it up, and we'll survive this, the series wins will come in.
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#2301
Originally posted by atari5200
jmjj. respect for that. Wilba i wrote twice in my message that i appreciate your input, ideas and strategies. I recieve JM emails but many don't. we gotta make sure people don't bet on cancelled series or understand what the majority of us are agreeing on as official bets. i don't want to see people losing here. we should have our money on the correct bets. Sure we can look them up nightly, but we come to this thread to make it convenient and support the system players.
all of you, keep it up, and we'll survive this, the series wins will come in.
all true these threads b/c its the internet and everybody has all these wild ideas and schemes that "they" think are better than others and get into a pissing contest on the internet on a chat board of all things as well like really?....why?.....it serves no purpose
we are all on here on this thread at least to clarify Johns stuff not what your hunches are so on and so forth it doesnt help and plus it clogs up the board with silliness that gets people confused like atari is saying.....the extra useless chatter is distracting and confusing and usually starts some s hit on here for no good reason especially when most on here have good intentions to be friendly and cordial and trying to seek helpful info on something they may not get or know about
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petermans23
SBR Sharp
11-16-09
371
#2302
What happened to John Morrison we all used to know and love?
After the Detroit game yesterday I haven´t heard one word from the greatist sportsbettor of all time.
You can get odds now at several bookies if he is going to accept the Detroit loss or come up with a understandable explanation to why this series should not count as a loss.
The odds right now are 1.91 for and 1.91 against.
Quite even I would say.
Any comments here on Johns latest results and when you think he will come forward with a clear message to all of us to follow?
well, have all three bets placed. lets hope this set begins to clear my labby lines, they are ridiculous
also looked into the rich allen system today and giving that a go too !!
good luck everyone,
hug
Any comments here on Johns latest results and when you think he will come forward with a clear message to all of us to follow?
JFM doesn't normally send out an e-mail after every game. He sends them out on the day of (sometime the night before) the next V1 game. So, don't expect to hear anything from him until Tue/Wed. I think he will simply write something similar to what he wrote when "his" MLB V1 system lost earlier this year.
Anyway, who give a flying f**K about what he has to say? Although I lost a shed load of cash last night, the system is basically sound.
Regards
Kev the Poorer
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mtbaker
Restricted User
11-06-10
95
#2309
good luck
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jmjj
SBR High Roller
11-17-10
172
#2310
Originally posted by Kev the Brit
JFM doesn't normally send out an e-mail after every game. He sends them out on the day of (sometime the night before) the next V1 game. So, don't expect to hear anything from him until Tue/Wed. I think he will simply write something similar to what he wrote when "his" MLB V1 system lost earlier this year.
Anyway, who give a flying f**K about what he has to say? Although I lost a shed load of cash last night, the system is basically sound.
Regards
Kev the Poorer
actually guys we should get an email tonight C bet on Orlando tomm so lets if the scumbag actually admits that this was finally a v1.0 loss in like 3 yrs or whatever its been his website isnt updated to reflect that very misleading to anyone coming on board now u know