Lebron Closing in on Jordan

[aszzzbrokerman]

Im surprised at how un-informed posters in this thread are. Those quoting James' lack of rings are echoing the sentiments of Jordan's biggest critics circa 1990. Those quoting the lack of competition in the 80s do realize that the league had only 22 teams back then right? And they do realize that the league was full of players who left college early and get playing time on potential right?

Lebron is doing things that someone my age has only seen Jordan do. Remember the guy averaged 35 pts 9reb and 7 ast while shooting over 50% for a post season. Those numbers would win MVP in the regular season. He did that against elevated competition.

So now we're going to pretend that Jordan didn't play on a team that would win 50 games a year without him and then compare Jordan's teammates to the current supporting class in Cleveland. We would have to see them play a season without Lebron but my guess is this thread would overwhelming take the under on +-50 wins for Cavaliers in a season without Lebron.

[williams22]

Im surprised at how un-informed posters in this thread are. Those quoting James' lack of rings are echoing the sentiments of Jordan's biggest critics circa 1990. Those quoting the lack of competition in the 80s do realize that the league had only 22 teams back then right? And they do realize that the league was full of players who left college early and get playing time on potential right?

Lebron is doing things that someone my age has only seen Jordan do. Remember the guy averaged 35 pts 9reb and 7 ast while shooting over 50% for a post season. Those numbers would win MVP in the regular season. He did that against elevated competition.

So now we're going to pretend that Jordan didn't play on a team that would win 50 games a year without him and then compare Jordan's teammates to the current supporting class in Cleveland. We would have to see them play a season without Lebron but my guess is this thread would overwhelming take the under on +-50 wins for Cavaliers in a season without Lebron.

Hallelujah, someone understands.

[shoebox]

Im surprised at how un-informed posters in this thread are. Those quoting James' lack of rings are echoing the sentiments of Jordan's biggest critics circa 1990. Those quoting the lack of competition in .

Exactly until he gets em hes just another stat padder, once he does then have a discussion. Its irrelevant untill those rings are on his fingers, championships seperate players into another limelight.

[kobefanatic]

Exactly until he gets em hes just another stat padder, once he does then have a discussion. Its irrelevant untill those rings are on his fingers, championships seperate players into another limelight.

if they're that good as alpha male they should be able to carry the team to win the finals

[mkasad23]

lebrons the joke of the century

[Stealinhome]

Jordan 6 LBJ 0

looks like MJ is kicking his fake king ass

[Stealinhome]

lebrons the joke of the century

[Stealinhome]

Exactly until he gets em hes just another stat padder, once he does then have a discussion. Its irrelevant untill those rings are on his fingers, championships seperate players into another limelight.

[mkasad23]

jordan is skilled in many many ways lebron is a fat ass that gets every call and bombards his way to the basket

[Stealinhome]

jordan is skilled in many many ways lebron is a fat ass that gets every call and bombards his way to the basket

[bradthebloke]

Williams you don't recall Jordan's dad being murdered?


do you recall his horrific finger "injury"

do you not know of his gambling?

really? whats the story on that? i never knew this

[AmpleGamble]

I want to start off by saying that MJ is my favorite player of all time, always will be; Lebron isn't one of my top 5 favorite players today. After reading through this entire thread, I decided I needed to voice my opinion.
I find it absolutely unbelievable how incompetent so many of you can be. Many of you are taking shots at Williams for arguments he never even proposed.

1.Williams NEVER said that Lebron is a better player than MJ- He clearly stated that he is having one of the greatest regular seasons of all time. How can you argue this?

2.People keep mentioning that until Lebron gets his 6 rings, he can never be compared to MJ. It has been said countless times that MJ didn't get his first ring until his 7th season in the NBA. So why do some of you feel the need to keep mentioning it?

3.It is not ridiculous to say that Lebron is on pace with Jordan's career as far as numbers go, he clearly is. Will he have all the credentials when it's all said and done? Only time will tell.

[just2cents]

I want to start off by saying that MJ is my favorite player of all time, always will be; Lebron isn't one of my top 5 favorite players today. After reading through this entire thread, I decided I needed to voice my opinion. I find it absolutely unbelievable how incompetent so many of you can be.

No one said sports fans are intelligent, just FANatical, LOL!

[ThisGuy]

Exactly until he gets em hes just another stat padder

Yep he's just like a Cedric Ceballos or Stackhouse with the Pistons. People be crazy, you can poke holes in any argument with rhetoric.


Lebron is the best player in the NBA and the best player since MJ. Tough to compare perimeter players to bigs but if you could start a NBA franchise team with any player ever from scratch #1 would be MJ #1a would be 'Bron. If you put them with just decent big men you're golden.

[jsmithj88]

I want to start off by saying that MJ is my favorite player of all time, always will be; Lebron isn't one of my top 5 favorite players today. After reading through this entire thread, I decided I needed to voice my opinion. I find it absolutely unbelievable how incompetent so many of you can be. Many of you are taking shots at Williams for arguments he never even proposed. 1.Williams NEVER said that Lebron is a better player than MJ- He clearly stated that he is having one of the greatest regular seasons of all time. How can you argue this? 2.People keep mentioning that until Lebron gets his 6 rings, he can never be compared to MJ. It has been said countless times that MJ didn't get his first ring until his 7th season in the NBA. So why do some of you feel the need to keep mentioning it? 3.It is not ridiculous to say that Lebron is on pace with Jordan's career as far as numbers go, he clearly is. Will he have all the credentials when it's all said and done? Only time will tell.

the reason is people actually have to sit down and think for a second.
its too much for most of them.

[bradthebloke]

really? whats the story on that? i never knew this

anyone?

[BernardMadoff]

Dont think Bron Bron will ever come close to having Jordan's post game.

[tayloraffect28]

time will tell

[HenPrivilege]

And lastly, let me know when Hollinger makes up a system that shows what Jordan would have done with no handchecking in his prime

Yes, the game isn't the same today.

Very entertaining watching Riley instructing his troops (Harper, Starks, Oakley and Mason) to keep Jordan out of the paint with a straight stiff arm, like a 5 yard bump in football.

Watching the NBA today, the paint is open for whoever wants it. WTF is illegal defense. Fukk that shit. The paint should be protected like a goal in hockey.

Fukking Stern that little prick. Anything to make the game more exciting. Let all these incredibly athletic players come through the lane like reckless mad men. No wonder why there are more ACL's torn and more microfracture surgeries today.

BTW, if you know the deal with Jordan then you know he was one hated SOB, kind of like Kobe today. You know you hated his ass when Sirius came on and they announced Jordan's name. The game was over the moment they said his name. Jordan was already sweating like a muthafukker chewing his gum and super focused.

Lebron is not and will never be that guy. The villain who will rip the heart out of your favorite team (for years).

[Goat Milk]

haha. of course lebron's team wouldn't win 50 games without him. But remember Kobe's team he took to the playoffs that year and lost first round. Kwame Brown and Luke Walton in the starting lineup. Easily the worst playoff team in NBA history. They would win between 2 and 6 games without Kobe.

[Cappy]

Lebron is definitely on top, I would like to see him have some really dominant performances in the post season, before bringing Jordan into the debate.

[TodayIsForgotten]

I hate the arguement he hasn't won titles or this or that in the playoffs. But, once he does he's as good or better. Makes no sense. Pound for pound we'll never know who is or was better. I'd give the Nod to lebron. Ring or no Ring.

[kobefanatic]

haha. of course lebron's team wouldn't win 50 games without him. But remember Kobe's team he took to the playoffs that year and lost first round. Kwame Brown and Luke Walton in the starting lineup. Easily the worst playoff team in NBA history. They would win between 2 and 6 games without Kobe.

dude don't forget FREAKING SMUSH PARKER as PG

[Gopi-1]

Jordan, also did not win any championships until Majic and Bird retired and the Pistons thunder was fading...

Magic was the Lakers pg when the Bulls won their 1st ring buddy...

[shoebox]

Jordan would of dropped 42 points with the flu and closed out Boston in game 6!

[shoebox]

Lebron has more raw talent then Jordan but Jordans will to win superceeds him as the greatest. You can talk stats till your blue in the face but until Lebron starts to get those rings on his finger hes just another Marino. Hitting clutch shots in the postseason and winning thats all that matters, just like Manning was just a good QB until the ring. Jordan was such a clutch athlete, something that cannot be coached.

[DaAce]

dude don't forget FREAKING SMUSH PARKER as PG

thats the first player i thought of when remembering that team... devean george, mihm, shammond williams & even brian f'n cook

[eatdust11]

Tonight's game was a perfect chance to see that Lebron, while he is ultra talented, just doesn't have the same killer instinct or will to win that Jordan did. He has more overall athletic ability, but he isn't as good of a basketball player as MJ was. Jordan would not have let that beatdown occur tonight. The Cavs, Lebron included, looked as if they didn't care.

[Mr Windy City]

so sick of threads like this. Jordan is was and will always be the greatest basketball player to ever walk the planet. Everyone's a witness know though right Cleveland fans? Blow me.....Witnesses to phucking playoff exits, guy is good no doubt but this mj comparison shit has to stop.

[kobefanatic]

thats the first player i thought of when remembering that team... devean george, mihm, shammond williams & even brian f'n cook

kwame "cake hands" or butterfingers brown

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

so sick of threads like this. Jordan is was and will always be the greatest basketball player to ever walk the planet. Everyone's a witness know though right Cleveland fans? Blow me.....Witnesses to phucking playoff exits, guy is good no doubt but this mj comparison shit has to stop.

Amen to that

[bobspicks]

After tonights 3-14 shooting or whatever it was LJ should never be compared to MJ again the real 23 would never let his team get beat down like that in a must win game!!!
He shouldn't even be compared to kobe at this point when kobe was 18 he didn't let his team get beat up like this!!!
MJ was the best ever bar none even when he didnt have pippen and others he would still score 50+ and keep the game close!!!
LJ might go down in history as one of the worse clutch players ever his shots weren't even close tonight!!!
His first fg was a cherry pick dunk are you kidding me comparing him to the real 23 has to stop I remember MJ hitting 5-6 3pts in a row when he was sick as a dog!!!
Really no comparsion here folks one is clutch the other well you saw tonight!!!!

[Doc JS]

Can we wait until LeBron wins something before we annoint him???

[big joe 1212]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insid...PERDiem-100330

Great article. Lebron is having perhaps the most dominant regular season the league has ever seen.

[kobefanatic]

Can we wait until LeBron wins something before we annoint him???