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[Goat Milk]

The Suns are NOT +350 dogs in this situation.

ML is a waste IMO

[Qwista]

shut up goat milk

[Tommy_de1st]

Suns just cant win by 30 in LA, impossible

[suicidekings]

ML is a waste IMO

Perhaps. The 1Q will tell a lot today... I still like PHX +8 a lot as well. Just because the Lakers are defending champs, doesn't mean the Koolaid isn't purple today..

[TylerDurden]

man you were spot on with Lakers being able to contain Amare when he isos on the elbow- and that Nash creates Amare's points, and that "you'll put any amount of points that LA wins at least 1 in PHX", just tailing what LakerBoy said and I made you eat your words for arguing with me. Arguiing w me when I said only Kobe Gasol and Fish Boy would play well on the road.
I should really listen to you more often

1.) You stated Amare was "unguardable"...I said not the case and that he doesn't break his average scoring more than 2 games this series. He has scored more than 26 points (season average) ONE GAME thus far. One game goat.

2.) Never said jack about other players not playing well on the road, so don't put words in my mouth. And no disrespect to LB but I take other's inputs into my capping but tail no one.

3.) Yes I did say the lakers would win one on the road, but you wouldn't take me up on my offer. it's easy for you to make bold statements like that and not back it up with anything. Sure you look really smart now, but you still wouldn't put your money where your mouth is.

[EvergrenMoneyMoB]

What'sup goat where is the reverse jinx thread at? gotta love them....lol we need one for todays game

[EvergrenMoneyMoB]

**** defense over is the call today

[Goat Milk]

Tyler I had points on it with LakerBoy FYI. Don't kid yourself. Amare is unguardable. STOP LOOKING AT STATS! He is making it so much easier for the rest of the team, don't you understand that?

Look at how he destroys Gasol on the elbow with 1 dribble. Destruction. It's not all about stats my friend, it's about what kind of presence you have on the floor. The only thing PHil has been thinking about this whole series is what to do with Amare. If he's smart he'll double him when he isos on the eblow tonight.

BTW, for a stats guy, you should know that Amare never averaged 26 a game this season.

[lakerboy]

Exactly what I'm thinking, Shari. The Suns are NOT +350 dogs in this situation. However LAL 1Q -3.5 is STEEP..

Yes they are. I asked people before the series began how many times will the suns win in LA out of 10 games . They would not win more than 3 times out of 10 in this spot and you know that. You have hopped onto the suns bandwagon based off games 3 and 4 as many hopped on to the LA wagon after games 1 and 2 based on what LA had done. I was of the opinion that LA would win 1 game in phoenix but i was wrong about that. Suns ML like goat milk said is a waste of money and the books are daring you to throw your money there. In a game 5 sit like this the suns would win 2 times out of 10 in LA. Suns spread +8 is an okay play i say.

[lakerboy]

Tyler I had points on it with LakerBoy FYI. Don't kid yourself. Amare is unguardable. STOP LOOKING AT STATS! He is making it so much easier for the rest of the team, don't you understand that?

Look at how he destroys Gasol on the elbow with 1 dribble. Destruction. It's not all about stats my friend, it's about what kind of presence you have on the floor. The only thing PHil has been thinking about this whole series is what to do with Amare. If he's smart he'll double him when he isos on the eblow tonight.

BTW, for a stats guy, you should know that Amare never averaged 26 a game this season.

Amare avg 23.1 ppg this season.

[samus82]

Any opinions on Under/over?

[Qwista]

over is a lock. It's over 3/3 this series and a push.

[DODGERBLUES24]

Suns tt is juiced

[EvergrenMoneyMoB]

You already know sun is gonna run the ball if they wanna win and hope the bunch will come out firing the ball again if not lakers will do what they didn't in game 1 and 2

[lakerboy]

Suns tt is juiced

yes it is and so was Bostons last night.

[paco]

over is a lock. It's over 3/3 this series and a push.

actually went Over all 4 games. Thats why its best to get the best #.

[paco]

LB, read the Hat

[EvergrenMoneyMoB]

Paco what u like tonight?

[lakerboy]

LB, read the Hat

cant see it pal

[DODGERBLUES24]

I have a feeling this game will go under. Everyone looked at the orl/bos series and figured the game would go under since it had the entire series. Same situation tonight and the line is dropping more

[TylerDurden]

Tyler I had points on it with LakerBoy FYI. Don't kid yourself. Amare is unguardable. STOP LOOKING AT STATS! He is making it so much easier for the rest of the team, don't you understand that? Look at how he destroys Gasol on the elbow with 1 dribble. Destruction. It's not all about stats my friend, it's about what kind of presence you have on the floor. The only thing PHil has been thinking about this whole series is what to do with Amare. If he's smart he'll double him when he isos on the eblow tonight. BTW, for a stats guy, you should know that Amare never averaged 26 a game this season.

Amare avg 23.1 ppg this season.

You're right that was a mistype. 23 points..still hasn't broken his average more than once. He is tough on the elbow one on one, but shit Kobe is tough 2 on 1 anywhere on the floor. Goat he has 3 assists the whole series, how exactly is he making it that much easier for everyone else?

They lost game 3 because of the ft disparity, lack of attacking the zone defense (aka artest and odom jacking up bricks), and Lopez scoring 20 points. Game 4 was lost because the bench scored 54 points.

[IndyJonezy]

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Friday May 28 @ 6pm Pacific time.
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Tournament name - SBR POKER
Password - killthebookie ( all one word )
Tournament id - 276902669

Just go to Pokerstars, private tounaments, and look for SBR POKER.

I will set one up for Saturday also.

Maybe we could make this a weekly thing until SBR gets their Poker thing going.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas. Maybe SBR could put up some points to the winners or somthing.

If your going to play, please put your Pokerstars screen name in your post.
Also, let as many people as you can know about the tournament.

GL. [/color]

i probably will not be available friday night but this is a great idea! I would be down more for a Wednesday night game or something during the week

[paco]

Frye looks like he's gained some his confidence bak from 3point land, can he sustain it on the road? I think he can.

[suicidekings]

You're right that was a mistype. 23 points..still hasn't broken his average more than once. He is tough on the elbow one on one, but shit Kobe is tough 2 on 1 anywhere on the floor. Goat he has 3 assists the whole series, how exactly is he making it that much easier for everyone else?

They lost game 3 because of the ft disparity, lack of attacking the zone defense (aka artest and odom jacking up bricks), and Lopez scoring 20 points. Game 4 was lost because the bench scored 54 points.

Getting consistently good looks for the perimeter shooters requires a presence in the paint to draw attention.

[TylerDurden]

Getting consistently good looks for the perimeter shooters requires a presence in the paint to draw attention.

right, which comes from steve nash in the pick and role. It's not like he's posting up on the elbow, getting double teamed and then passing out of it for spot up jump shots or his assists would be higher.

[Goat Milk]

Goat he has 3 assists the whole series, how exactly is he making it that much easier for everyone else?

Didn't I just ask you to stop looking at stats? The more you watch and play ball, you will figure out how Amare makes it easy for everyone else on the court.

[Goat Milk]

No Tyler, 30% of Suns offense is Amare isolation on the elbow. Pick and roll is 1st option, and when that fails, Amare has the ball in his hands, not Nash. Amare's presence in the pick and roll causes defenses to collapse and that's why Nash is able to find open 3 point shooters

[IndyJonezy]

I have a feeling this game will go under. Everyone looked at the orl/bos series and figured the game would go under since it had the entire series. Same situation tonight and the line is dropping more

IMHO I think that is a dangerous way to play. Really can't judge what happened in one series to another... not saying you're wrong but the Boston series has some different factors then the Lakers series. Boston defense has been exposed and they are tired... you could see it after game 4 in OT.

I really think Kobe will have about 35-42 points tonight. Artest will hit about 12-16 points tonight. Not an Artest fan, not because I am from INDY, but he is dangerous when he remembers to take good shots (and not work on his rap demo tape)

I am pretty confident on the over... still debating the amount of points the suns are getting.

Either way GOOD LUCK!!!!

[suicidekings]

No Tyler, 30% of Suns offense is Amare isolation on the elbow. Pick and roll is 1st option, and when that fails, Amare has the ball in his hands, not Nash. Amare's presence in the pick and roll causes defenses to collapse and that's why Nash is able to find open 3 point shooters

He's quick enough that if a defender gets caught on his heels, Amare blows right by him, so the defenders have to cheat in a bit to contain him.

[TylerDurden]

No Tyler, 30% of Suns offense is Amare isolation on the elbow. Pick and roll is 1st option, and when that fails, Amare has the ball in his hands, not Nash. Amare's presence in the pick and roll causes defenses to collapse and that's why Nash is able to find open 3 point shooters

He's quick enough that if a defender gets caught on his heels, Amare blows right by him, so the defenders have to cheat in a bit to contain him.

Trust me I know and play ball a ton. I also don't make statements that facts (stats in this case) don't back up. Amare gets the ball usually with one thing on his mind, and that's to score (or dunk the ball as hard as he can over whoever), and he's good at it don't get me wrong but I don't see this as making it easier for others unless hes passing the ball after these defenders are cheating in on him. Steve Nash's passing ability with Amare rolling down the lane does open things up yes, but that's Nash spoon feeding him which I know you don't agree with.

Out of respect for LB's thread I will agree to disagree with you and move on to the game. So the Professional Play is suns +points then I take it?

[Goat Milk]

Out of respect for LB's thread I will agree to disagree with you and move on to the game. So the Professional Play is suns +points then I take it?

Amare can take Gasol off the dribble or hit the jump shot all day against him. He is the biggest mismatch for the Lakers and you should know this by now.

No, not as of now

[Qwista]

Enough bickering. SUNS ML is the call

[Chris Johnson]

all of you guys arguing about the game is cute and all (you know, when people like goat milk act like they know a lot about basketball) but dont overthink it, lakers and under tonight

[anjaru]

Suns ML

[Qwista]

I'll be the one laughing!