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DataSBR MVP
- 11-27-07
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#736Comment -
actionaddict86SBR Sharp
- 02-13-09
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#737what are the plays today?Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#738Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system PR's had no plays.
YTD 82-56=59.4%
Yesterday sportrends PR plays went 1-2 not a good night. Hopefully we can bounce back today.
Based on early lines
TOR + 5 or >
NYK + 4.5 or >
DAL + 7.5 or >Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#739Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our PR system went 2-1
YTD 84-57=59.6%
Yesterday in the NBA we all should have gone 3-1. Our H/A PR system and sportrends PR's only produced one game which was ATL for a win.
In college hoops the odds makers have been very sharp with their lines and there have not been many plays. Yesterday he got sloppy and I went 4-0. Overall I recovered from the day before big time.
If you want to check they were MARQ, SYR, ST JOE and TUL.
I dont expect the man to get very sloppy with his lines again.
Based on early lines
CLE - 5 or < One problem we have an opposite play at this line with our H/A PR so unless CLE drops to -4 I will pass this game.
PHO becomes a play if +5.5 or >Comment -
caracallaRestricted User
- 11-12-05
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#740NCAA my system filtered by yours said Luoisville -9.
Unfortunately I didn't notice starting time!!!! Already finished ... Luoisville 73-55Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#741Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday we had no system plays
YTD 84-57=59.6%
Yesterday we needed CLE to drop to -4 for a play and it never got there.
Based on early lines
ORL - 9.5 or <
IND + 5 or >
MIN + 5 or >
DAL - 2.5 or <
CHI - sportrends PR opposite play on PHI
HOU - sportrends PR opposite play onCHAComment -
caracallaRestricted User
- 11-12-05
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#742NCAA Flo St -5.5Comment -
caracallaRestricted User
- 11-12-05
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#743Flo St 64-62 lostComment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#744Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 1-3
YTD 85-60=58.6
Not a very good night. At least our systems H/A PR's and sportrends PR's split 1-1.
Based on early lines
NO -1.5 or <
OKL + 9.5Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#745Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system had no plays
YTD 85-60=58.6
Yesterday we all should have gone 2-0 with our system H/A PR play on PHO and sportrends plays on MIN and PHO.
Based on early lines
BOS - 6.5 or <
MEM + 8.5 or >
NJN - 3.5 or <
UTA + 6 or > sportrends PR opposite play on ORL, will pass game if line stays @ 6.Comment -
MilwaukeeSBR Hustler
- 02-10-09
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#746
2-0 yesterday.You say the play was NO and OK. I dont understand this
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dre3000SBR High Roller
- 02-07-09
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#747Looks more like 0-2Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#749Today NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 1-2
YTD 86-62=58.1%
Yesterday our H/A PR's went 2-2 and sportrends PR's went 2-3. Not a good night. At least we had a win on OH St.
Based on early lines
TOR + 3.5 or >
SAN - 6 or < @ 6.5 sportrends opposite PR play on OKL
POR - 7.5 or <Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#750Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 1-2
YTD 87-64=57.6
Looks like we are on a few day drought. Lets hope we can turn it around today.
Based on early lines
ORL + 5 or >
BOS - 3 or < Too many players out so would not lay more
DET + 4.5 or >Comment -
diogeeSBR Posting Legend
- 01-11-08
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#751Good luck Wiz...agree with the Orl and Det picks that were put out and have been waiting for offers to be filled at match for those 2. Boston game looks a little like a sucker bet imo but they won't stay in the ats slump forever.Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#752Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our PR System went 2-1
YTD 89-65=57.8%
We all finally made back what we lost over the past 3 days by hitting 5-1. Our H/A PR's were 2-1 and sportrends PR's went 4-1 and gave us an additional 3 wins with MIN, GS and PHI.
Based on todays early lines
NJN + 4 or >
DEN - 7 or <
PHI + 3.5 or >Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#753A must read I found on the handicappers think tank
Here is a terrific post I found on the handicappers think tank, a bit long and my reply. Just wondering what you guys thought.
Systems and services /can they hit 60%+
hajune
I just read an article by one of the cappers from SBR. I believe Justin is his name. He is obviously an intelligent guy and talked about systems, services and touts etc.
First of all I will compliment him on talking about the Morrison System. That is a progressive system that wants you to buy up to 3 points a game. Progressive systems are doomed for failure right from the start!!! Everytime you buy a 1/2 point or more you not only buy the rated value but you pay an additional 10% commission. Therefore 10% becomes 11% (10% 0f 10 %=1 +10 =11). This adds up to a whooping 15% + commission when buying 3 points. You are now asked to overcome 15%+. When you lose your 3rd game you are in the hole in a big way. You will be risking a lot to make a little and will feel foolish doing so. In the long run expect to have some sessions with Dr. Phil . Einstein, among others, proved no system can increase the odds of winning , systems only make it worse or keep it the same at best. Of course money management systems are a different subject matter. If they promote a logical and conservative pathway they will enhanse the ability to win. A good method wil keep you from " tapping out" during a bad run.
Point # 2.
He talked about cappers and betting systems unrelated to progressive betting . If you are looking for a good service he is correct that cappers with a long term proven record are normally the best. He is also correct in stating that you should stay away from cappers who have no track record , claim unsubstanciated records, and ask for money in unconventional forms. Stay away from these guys. Anybody worth while should have a track record or should explain how they arrive at a play. It should make sense and they should not make you commit a lot.
Point# 3
This I take exception to. He suggested that ALL services and ALL cappers are incapable of hitting 60% in the long run. He said that 55% was about the best you could expect. Of course proving a negative is impossible to do. What he should say is he knows nobody who hits 60%. I do know handicappers who average 60%. When Thomas Edison was attempting to find the filament for the light bulb he failed 10,000 times. Does that mean he would not find the answer in the next attempt? If you are familiar to 10,000 cappers who never reach the 60% plateau that does not mean the next one will experince the same results.
The big problem with most handicappers is thet USE THE SAME INFORMATION AS THE LINE MAKERS. You can not expect to have a 60% + winning record when doing this. You must find data that is uncommonly known and apply it in a systematic and mechanical format. The Wright Brothers threw away conventional wisdom when attempting to fly an air plane. In so doing so they created 3 separete entities of aerodynamics that caused them to successfully fly a plane.
I wrote an article about using impact values. Not one of you will use it. 99% of you gamble because you have a hidden desire to lose. You are undisciplined, scatter brained in your thinking processes, and lazy. I showed you all a spot play that kickes ass all year and only 2 of you bothered to pursue it. It hit 90%!!!!!!!!
Here is my challenge to anybody willing to take it. You put up $10,000 (none of yoy wil do it)and I will go over the the method with you that YOU will be able to do. If it does not hit 60%, oops cross that out and make it 62 1/2% ( 5 of 8 games) you get your money back. We will put it in a holding trust so there will be no risk. If it does hit 62!/2% oops cross that out and make that 65% you will have learned a system that will make you rich. I will tell you straight up I hit 65% + of my plays. To my surprise using this mechanical form of handicapping it get a lot of plays. I spent 5000+ hours perfecting it. I have a 40,000 game data base in football and basketball proving that it works. I believe I could get a few well known handicappers who will confirm my ability to handicap. Two of them call me everyday to pick my brain. Neither one has ever seen anything like it and having explained the logic they understand why it works.
That is all I have to say. I will not be posting plays any more but will answer handicapping questions. If you have any post them. The one guy who responded to my spot play system is getting my plays daily now. We have hit 10 straight NBA games with 2 pending tonight. I reward people who work at handicapping. I think he is a happy person.
MY REPLY
Hajune, you hit the nail right on the head and you are a 100% correct in your description above. The one area I take exception to relates to power ratings. My question to you is, what are we trying to predict? Assists, turnovers, personal fouls, steals? Well the answer is the outcome of the game. So what basic statistic better represents this then final score? I have found over the years there is no other method or indicator which allows us to determine pretty accurately the strength of two teams. I agree with you that many good handicappers and oddsmakers all use the same data to formulate plays and this does not mean they will all come up with the same results. I can hand over a good PR system to 10 different individuals and I can assure you, we will get 10 different results. So it all boils down to these factors; Have you tested your system for many years, do you have good knowledge of the game, do you apply good rules to your system and do you know what to look for. This is what separates the men from the boys.
I also agree with you there are some very talented sports services out there that have come up with some amazing systems over the years that have been very successful and have been adopted by the oddsmakers. These guys understand the game and continue to do well.Comment -
sempSBR Rookie
- 03-10-09
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#754I was just wondering if Einstein proved that no system can beat a fair game? (one which is exactly 50/50) so does this mean some sports betting systems can work long term, because humans are not perfect and just set odds for the majority of the public?Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#755Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 3-2
YTD 92-67=57.9%
Does not look like any NBA games todayComment -
casinojackRestricted User
- 01-26-09
- 26
#756Wiz
3-2 yesterday ? Did I miss something ? I saw three picks ?Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#758Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system had no plays
YTD 92-67=57.9%
Yesterday sportrends PR's gave us a play on ATL for a win.
Based on Early lines we have 2 plays, UTA and PHI but our system H/A PR and sportrends PR's have opposite plays. We will have to wait to see what develops.Comment -
danychaosSBR Rookie
- 03-20-09
- 37
#759Hey Formulawiz, I'm new here but I've been following, sportrends PR's seem to be doing quite ok the last few days... do you keep a record for those plays?Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#760
I am sure you will ask me why I solely dont use sportrends PR's to make my plays. Well remember I started my thread in the middle of January, 2 1/2 months after the season started. I have been using our system PR's for well over 10 years now with great results. At the beginning of this season to the middle of January I was winning at a very high percentage as I usually do. Remember as the season progresses it gets a little harder to keep winning at a high percentage because the oddsmakers get much sharper with his lines.Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#761Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 1-0 with SAC
YTD 93-67=58.1%
Yesterday we had 2 other plays which dropped due to opposite plays with our H/A PR and sportrends PR. They were UTA and PHI.
It is very important everyone run the spreadsheet themselves to get the system plays. It is just too much work for me to follow the line changes all day long and then post games.
Remember, plays are made 10 to 15 minutes prior to tip off and that includes 10:00 pm est games as well.
Based on early lines.
LAK - 5 or <Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
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#762Todays NBA plays
Yesterday our system went 2-0
YTD 95-67=58.6%
Based on early lines
CLE - 8.5 or <
PHI - 6 or <Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#763Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 2-0
YTD 97-67=59.2%
Yesterday we should have picked up an additional win with TOR. Sportrends PR's went 3-0 and kept us off GS.
Based on early lines
MEM + 9 or >
ORL - 7 or <
PHI + 6 or >Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#764Todays NBA Plays
Yesterday our system went 1-1
YTD 98-68=59.1%
Based on early lines
LAK - 9.5 or <Comment -
milkshakeballaSBR High Roller
- 03-24-09
- 204
#765Question - I updated my final scores and spreads manually for today's games. I updated my rankings. But how do I now move to the 25th set of games? It is staying on the 24 and telling me who to pick?
Also, if I did this correctl, I got a -5.5 Line value and got a player for the Lakers tonight correct? So this system should have went 1-0 today...?
But when I put the -6 spread in for the Utah game its giving me a line value of -7.0 but not telling me to pick Utah...? Is this correct?Comment -
NBA HeroSBR MVP
- 12-05-08
- 1886
#766means bet at your own risk and its not part of the system.Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#767Todays NBA Picks
Yesterday our system went 1-0
YTD 99-68=59.3
Yesterday if you followed sportrends PR plays they went 1-1. Overall you would have gone 2-1.
Based on early lines
GS + 7.5 or >Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#768Question - I updated my final scores and spreads manually for today's games. I updated my rankings. But how do I now move to the 25th set of games? It is staying on the 24 and telling me who to pick?
Also, if I did this correctl, I got a -5.5 Line value and got a player for the Lakers tonight correct? So this system should have went 1-0 today...?
But when I put the -6 spread in for the Utah game its giving me a line value of -7.0 but not telling me to pick Utah...? Is this correct?
2. LAK were the only play yesterday
3.UTA was not a play because the PR's do not have at least a 1 pt or > diffComment -
danychaosSBR Rookie
- 03-20-09
- 37
#769Hi Formulawiz, will you be posting system plays for the mlb season? I remember you said you use sportrends system for that, right? It'd be interesting to see how it works. Thanks.Comment -
FormulawizRestricted User
- 01-12-09
- 1589
#770I use sportrends baseball software and it would be unethical for me to post the games. Hey $50.00 is cheap enough especially when I make my money back 1000X over.Comment
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