So stifler how is it working for you the sweetjones55 picks?
I've read in the system plays forum that is cold as ice......
yes he is on a cold streak, but still up for the season.
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#3819
Anybody else noticing that the lines are now ALWAYS going against us?
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vigster
SBR MVP
09-18-12
1032
#3820
Originally posted by Grinder12000
Anybody else noticing that the lines are now ALWAYS going against us?
Always!!!
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Alwarrete
SBR Hustler
01-21-13
58
#3821
Originally posted by Stifler
06.02.2013
S1
(B Bet) Chic: Chicago +5 1,10u| Chicago +6 2,31u
- S1 Denver could also be played, but i will not play this series.
Wrong date xD
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Alwarrete
SBR Hustler
01-21-13
58
#3822
BTW, can anybody tell me if the Spread sheet i linked yesterday is wrong or something?? I think it doesnt work correctly or maybe i dont know how to....
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John Deere
SBR Wise Guy
10-19-11
581
#3823
Originally posted by Grinder12000
Anybody else noticing that the lines are now ALWAYS going against us?
Books are vs the system.
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CheeseHead
SBR Sharp
12-03-10
439
#3824
Lol you guys crack me up thinking that we are moving the line from this thread. Are you betting 10k units or what?
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John Deere
SBR Wise Guy
10-19-11
581
#3825
Originally posted by CheeseHead
Lol you guys crack me up thinking that we are moving the line from this thread. Are you betting 10k units or what?
Yeah !
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#3826
Lol you guys crack me up thinking that we are moving the line from this thread. Are you betting 10k units or what?
Well - lets say there are 1000 people using this system which is be conservative and the average wager is $50, that is $50,000 on the "A" bets on one side all hitting at once. $100,000 on "B" bets and $500,000 on "D" bets all hitting within a couple hours all on one side.
yea - could happen. It takes less then you think to move a line.
Especially when a $1000 wager is not out of the realm of possibility at all.
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Ceebizcut
SBR Rookie
02-07-13
17
#3827
I'm just going to go ahead and make sure I have this all right
I'm new here but have been lurking for a while.
So if I would ideally want to start on an A bet
And by 1.10 units. Lets say i'm starting small ($25 is my unit) I would want to bet 27.50 on the game?
I went through and read most of the thread. And that one requested post. I'm just double checking
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kilrathi
SBR High Roller
12-22-12
126
#3828
Originally posted by Ceebizcut
I'm just going to go ahead and make sure I have this all right
I'm new here but have been lurking for a while.
So if I would ideally want to start on an A bet
And by 1.10 units. Lets say i'm starting small ($25 is my unit) I would want to bet 27.50 on the game?
I went through and read most of the thread. And that one requested post. I'm just double checking
yeah 27.5$ for 1 A bet!
just be sure ur bankroll is big enough for the chase... should be at least around 50 units if I am right
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thelimit0310
SBR MVP
01-24-11
1233
#3829
Thread has gotten 315,504 views over 96 days which means over 3000 views a day on average, if half those people play the picks that's 1500 people wagering on Stif's picks. If the average bet is $100 that's $150,000. Possible that the lines are influenced by us but obviously this is all estimation and the money would be split between multiple bookies. Just as well, the Covers consensus shows the majority of people's money isn't even on Chicago, but Denver. So we probably aren't influencing lines.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3830
Originally posted by Ceebizcut
I'm just going to go ahead and make sure I have this all right
I'm new here but have been lurking for a while.
So if I would ideally want to start on an A bet
And by 1.10 units. Lets say i'm starting small ($25 is my unit) I would want to bet 27.50 on the game?
I went through and read most of the thread. And that one requested post. I'm just double checking
If you read through the thread, stiff recommends a minimum of 50 units for this system. If you look on page 46 post # 1586, you will see the A-B-C-D guideline for how much to bet for each tier. A for example is 1.1 to win 1. Your $27.50 to win $25. Your bankroll should be at least $1,250 for this system. Note this past month the system has dropped around 30 units, so having above 50 units would be better. $25 unit size aint too small bro, be proud of it, I only have $20 unit size, but keep a $2k bankroll.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3831
Its more likely Boozer and Noah are influencing the lines, more so then the public right now. Both are expected to play, which is making the line drop. If one of them is ruled out, then the line should go back up in our favor.
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#3832
I'm looking for that wonderful post about canceling wagers - anybody know where that is? JMD was that one of yours?
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3833
Originally posted by Grinder12000
I'm looking for that wonderful post about canceling wagers - anybody know where that is? JMD was that one of yours?
I mentioned it on wallco's hockey thread, but I do not think that is the post you are looking for. I was just saying if you placed wrong bet, bet the other side and you lose the juice, then remake your bet for the correct wager + juice from the loss of canceling your wager.
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CrazyCarl
SBR MVP
10-09-11
1437
#3834
Originally posted by thelimit0310
Thread has gotten 315,504 views over 96 days which means over 3000 views a day on average, if half those people play the picks that's 1500 people wagering on Stif's picks. If the average bet is $100 that's $150,000. Possible that the lines are influenced by us but obviously this is all estimation and the money would be split between multiple bookies. Just as well, the Covers consensus shows the majority of people's money isn't even on Chicago, but Denver. So we probably aren't influencing lines.
Those estimations are way too much. I check this thread probably 10 times a day, and Grinder probably checks it 200 or 300.
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cambertos
SBR Sharp
06-16-12
329
#3835
Originally posted by CrazyCarl
Those estimations are way too much. I check this thread probably 10 times a day, and Grinder probably checks it 200 or 300.
Haha that is true, But i Love the way Grinder crunches the numbers. I do the same, graphs etc..
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#3836
352 today but I have it broken down by the hour if you want.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3837
edit. nvm book only down for a sec.
Line is back to +6 for CHI and back down to 1.5 for LAL. I think howard is going to play now. Going to keep waiting see if i can get 6.5 since most of public is on DEN.
What happens when two teams go against each other?
If you play both games
S4 A 1 unit to win 0.91
S1 B 2.1 units to win 1.91 units minus the "A" bet so 0.91
----- S4 Win
S4 Bet 1 unit wins +0.91
S1 Bet 2.1 loses -2.1 units + previous 1 unit = -3.1 units Total (+0.91 + -3.1 = -2.19 units) Play S1"C" like normal the next game
S1 Win
S4 Bet 1 loses -1 unit -
S1 Bet 2.1 wins 2.1 units = 1.91 - previous 1.00 = +0.91 Total (-1.00 + 0.91 = 0.09 units) play S4 "B" for 2.1 the next game just like normal
If you just play one game and take the 1 unit you would put S4 "A" and subtract it from S4"B" so it's like this
S4 A bet 0 units
S1 B bet 1.1 units
S4 win
S4 A bet -0 units wins +0 units
S1 B bet 1.1 units loses -1.1 + previous -1.00 = -2.1 Total ( 0 + -2.1 = -2.10 units) Play the normal S1 "C" bet next game
S1 Wins
S4 A bet 0 units loses +0 units
S1 B 1.1 units wins 0.91 - previous 1.00 = .09 Total (0 + 0.09 units)
Play S4 "B" like normal the next game
I got back some of my losses from walco nhl and this chicago game by taking nuggets team score over 116....but damn i feel for everyone. Hopefully the systems will pick it back up soon, good luck guys.
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gamewinninglv
SBR High Roller
09-18-12
207
#3844
Originally posted by Grinder12000
Just found this on page 6
WE DID IT!!! lost two "D" games in a row - congrats to all!!
Not sure if we should be celebrating this Mr. Grinder
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3845
Originally posted by Teamprofit101
I got back some of my losses from walco nhl and this chicago game by taking nuggets team score over 116....but damn i feel for everyone. Hopefully the systems will pick it back up soon, good luck guys.
Not trying to call you out Teamprofit101, but how did you get back some of your losses today from wallco's NHL? You mean you faded him and went 3-0? Pretty sure his system lost like 15 units today with that -300 juice. So proud of his win rates though... what is it like 60%? 60% at -300 hmmm. Seems super profitable...... System is 0-5 past 3 days for like -20 units. Combine that with his chase110 and you get LOL!!! but dont you worry wallco, people losing 60% of their rolls comes with the territory as you say.
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igorp3
SBR Rookie
02-06-13
4
#3846
Hope that stif posts play earlier today, my bookie closes bets in 2 hours.
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Grinder12000
SBR MVP
04-21-11
1809
#3847
JMD. If you want to spread you hate'n for Wallco go to his thread. If you can show stats that prove -300 plays are long run -EV let's see the numbers.
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oldscho0led
SBR MVP
01-18-11
1407
#3848
Originally posted by igorp3
Hope that stif posts play earlier today, my bookie closes bets in 2 hours.
Dump your bookie. Find another one.
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rustie
SBR Sharp
11-23-12
358
#3849
Originally posted by igorp3
Hope that stif posts play earlier today, my bookie closes bets in 2 hours.
Then I might suggest that you learn the system and find the plays yourself ,or
find a different system and quit whining about when Stiffler posts his plays,
which is all you have done on this board.
Respectfully yours
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Stifler
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3511
#3850
Originally posted by Stifler
07.02.2013
S1
(B Bet) Chic: Chicago +5 1,10u| Chicago +6 2,31u
records: S1: W 49 | L 2 (+12,10 units)
S2: W 25 | L 2 (-11,90 units)
S3: W 16 | L 0 (+16,00 units)
S4: W 40 | L 1 (+23,55 units)
additional: -1,10 units Den fade
pending:
- S1 Sac fade, B Bet on 09.02.2013
- S1 Chic, C Bet on 08.02.2013
- S2 Atl, B Bet on 11.02.2013
- S2 Bos fade, B Bet on 11.02.2013
- S1 Atl fade, B Bet on 08.02.2013
- S1 Brook fade, B Bet on 08.02.2013