nba chase 12/13

**knugen** · 01-21-13, 11:50 AM

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**Nino7** · 01-21-13, 11:54 AM

Cha +7

**Stifler** · 01-21-13, 11:55 AM

- there u go, Charlotte line updated.

21.01.2013

S3

(B Bet) Char: Charlotte +2 1,10u | Charlotte +7 2,31u
(A Bet) Ind fade: Memphis -6 1,10u

S4

(A Bet) Chic fade: Lakers - waiting on line movement
(A Bet) Mem fade: Indiana +6 1,10u

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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

**baldur** · 01-21-13, 12:02 PM

date is wrong my friend.

**samrock67** · 01-21-13, 12:19 PM

Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.

**Aram325302** · 01-21-13, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by samrock67

Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.

I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.

**DollarBill10** · 01-21-13, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Aram325302

I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.

Why would you bet both teams...you lose $$$ that way...that's silly.

**UK_gixxer** · 01-21-13, 12:27 PM

Guys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.

**Aram325302** · 01-21-13, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by DollarBill10

Why would you bet both teams...you lose $$$ that way...that's silly.

The goal is to win the series not the bet. When you lose with one team that series continues. Your goal should be to win 1 unit in both the series.

**pazim** · 01-21-13, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Aram325302

The goal is to win the series not the bet. When you lose with one team that series continues. Your goal should be to win 1 unit in both the series.

You lose juice that way. I would just bet b but with the same amt. as bet a.

**Asset** · 01-21-13, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by UK_gixxer

Guys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

My reaction was exactly like you, BUT I didn't post LOL

**Grinder12000** · 01-21-13, 12:53 PM

Aram325302 - sorry - there are 20 pages to this conversation. It comes up once a week it seems. There are many ways to handle the situation and do as you feel comfortable.

Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser.
Don't play either and play 1.1 on the loser on a new 4 team chase.
Play both, lose juice and play the loser for 2.2

whatever - as long as you understand the concept do what feels right for you.

**gamewinninglv** · 01-21-13, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Aram325302 - sorry - there are 20 pages to this conversation. It comes up once a week it seems. There are many ways to handle the situation and do as you feel comfortable.

Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser.
Don't play either and play 1.1 on the loser on a new 4 team chase.
Play both, lose juice and play the loser for 2.2

whatever - as long as you understand the concept do what feels right for you.

Great short and sweet answer.

Mathematically, the first option (Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser) maximizes your winning/profit because you don't lose Juice (see previous posts for detailed discussion about this answer). But in reality, it's your $$$ and do what you think it's best for you.

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**parlay100** · 01-21-13, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by UK_gixxer

Guys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.

I hear ya!

**brewersMKE** · 01-21-13, 04:09 PM

Lakers it is..Stifler is on the lakers too

**Stifler** · 01-21-13, 04:51 PM

- Lakers line added.

21.01.2013

S3

(B Bet) Char: Charlotte +2 1,10u | Charlotte +7 2,31u
(A Bet) Ind fade: Memphis -6 1,10u

S4

(A Bet) Chic fade: Lakers +2 1,10u
(A Bet) Mem fade: Indiana +6 1,10u

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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

**SkivChef** · 01-21-13, 05:13 PM

Where can i find current records?

**Grinder12000** · 01-21-13, 05:56 PM

Where can i find current records?

Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick unders . . . . . . there are some there. Not up to date but from the last 6 years - things are pretty much working out as they backtested,

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by samrock67

Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.

Originally posted by Aram325302

I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.

Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Asset

LMFAO!!!!!!!!

My reaction was exactly like you, BUT I didn't post LOL

I'm getting there myself. If people want to WASTE their money, why should I let it bother me. To not understand it at first is one thing, but to make arguements as to why betting both sides is better, is ignorant and show's that person's novice in sports betting.

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by SkivChef

Where can i find current records?

Best Buy and itunes have a bunch. What band are you searching for?

**samrock67** · 01-21-13, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".

Bear with me here- if your unit size was $10 and you skipped both bets, wouldn't your B bet be $22 to win $20? That's where I got my 2.2 from- I wasn't saying your "To Win" size should be 2.2u, I meant you'd be betting 2.2 units in order to win 2 units. Sorry for the confusion.

**Aram325302** · 01-21-13, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".

Thanking you for this

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by samrock67

Bear with me here- if your unit size was $10 and you skipped both bets, wouldn't your B bet be $22 to win $20? That's where I got my 2.2 from- I wasn't saying your "To Win" size should be 2.2u, I meant you'd be betting 2.2 units in order to win 2 units. Sorry for the confusion.

Gotcha. That would be correct.

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Aram325302

Thanking you for this

No problem, glad I could help.

**tbird509** · 01-21-13, 09:24 PM

why not just pick who you like more for example...ind vs mem-7, you just use your judgement on who you think will cover,you pick ind tonight and win,and the loser(mem)as b bet next,that way u wouldnt miss out and can hit both,and if you lose,then you follow system as you normally would

**gamewinninglv** · 01-21-13, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Best Buy and itunes have a bunch. What band are you searching for?

LOL

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**gamewinninglv** · 01-21-13, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by tbird509

why not just pick who you like more for example...ind vs mem-7, you just use your judgement on who you think will cover,you pick ind tonight and win,and the loser(mem)as b bet next,that way u wouldnt miss out and can hit both,and if you lose,then you follow system as you normally would

If you only pick one and lose, then you missed out on the 1 unit win from the other bet ..... i think ...... isn't that right ?

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**tbird509** · 01-21-13, 09:44 PM

only if you pass you lose out in my opinion,cause your still going to win the series even if you pick the wrong choice of the two A bets,because the loser turns into a B bet either way ......................................

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by gamewinninglv

If you only pick one and lose, then you missed out on the 1 unit win from the other bet ..... i think ...... isn't that right ?

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Oh baby that is sooooooooooooooooo right. Unless his everyday handicapping skills are so polished that he picks winners 100% of the time, in that case, and only that case, he would be correct. His bookie must hate him.

**Wallco99** · 01-21-13, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by tbird509

only if you pass you lose out in my opinion,cause your still going to win the series even if you pick the wrong choice of the two A bets,because the loser turns into a B bet either way ......................................

Your way you win 1 unit sometimes and two units sometimes for the two teams. Our way you win two units ALL the time. That makes your way ineffective. Obviously if a series loses then units are not won by either method.

**Nino7** · 01-21-13, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick unders . . . . . . there are some there. Not up to date but from the last 6 years - things are pretty much working out as they backtested,

We are at + 25 units or something at half season...this is slower than backtested.

**tbird509** · 01-21-13, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Your way you win 1 unit sometimes and two units sometimes for the two teams. Our way you win two units ALL the time. That makes your way ineffective. Obviously if a series loses then units are not won by either method.

if you win the a bet,you could still wager 2 units for your b bet...for a chance of 3..so i wouldnt call it ineffective at all,just more aggresive

**Grinder12000** · 01-21-13, 11:29 PM

We are at + 25 units or something

I got us at 54.1 units.

On the 19th Stifler had us at 45 units I was a couple above Stifler with 47 I think after the "D" game)- We have had a good run since the "D" loss - up about 6 units.

**thelimit0310** · 01-22-13, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

I got us at 54.1 units.

On the 19th Stifler had us at 45 units I was a couple above Stifler with 47 I think after the "D" game)- We have had a good run since the "D" loss - up about 6 units.

Pretty sure your number is wrong. Stiflers unit count would not match a backtest. What I have falls more in line with what Nino stated. Take out the extra unit from both the 2 unit A bets and including the extra loss on Orlando (this would show up on a Covers backtest) and theres no way we could be up more than 30ish units. I had almost 30 before tonight. Underperforming based on the backtests, but a few systems are underperforming this year.