nba chase 12/13

[Grinder12000]

Is this like the 135 system on Wallcos system?

BTW. I trusted u guys with the system as I traveled Route 66 but NOOOOOO. Loser weekend. iphone gambeling sucks.

My avatar, the big hot dog man is on mRoute 66

Do people outside the US know what that is?

[J.M. Disciple]

Yes A to win 1 unit, B to win 3 units plus recover A's loss, C to recover A+B and show 5 unit profit. Wallco came up with it for the John morrison road system.

I would be a little worried with so many B-C-D bets going on at the same time it may put a vast majority of someones bankroll on the line. Long run though seems really profitable based on Stiff's record.

[Sandwich]

Hey JMD,

I believe you would only be winning 1, 3, or 5 units per respective BCD bet; not 4.1 and 10.67 units profit for the C, D bets)

These are the numbers I got for 1-3-5 BCD, I also ran a few more money management schemes to see how they would profit.
1 unit x 344 = 344 units
3 units x 166 = 498 units
5 units x 67 = 335 units

1-3-5 BCD = 1,177 units - system losses (17.28 units lost x 23 = 397.44) = 779.56 units profit for 1-3-5 BCD
Traditional ABCD method = 1308 units - (23 x 18.45 units lost) = 883.65 units profit for Traditional ABCD 1 unit chase
Trying 5-3-1 BCD = 2285 units - (23 x 32.29 units lost) = 1542.33 units profit for 5-3-1 BCD
7/5 CD = (166 x 7units) + (67 x 5 units) = 1497 - (23 x 21.67) = 998.59 units profit for 7-5 CD
ABC 5-3-1 = (5 x 731) + (344 x 3) + (166) - (32.29 x 90) = 1946.9 units profit for 5-3-1 ABC
ABC 4-2-1 = (4 x 731) + (344 x 2) + (166) - (25.124 x 90) = 1516.84 units profit for 4-2-1 ABC

I'm sticking with the standard 1 unit ABCD traditional method for now considering only accruing a 18.45 unit loss compared to 32.29 or 25.124. Any thoughts?

[J.M. Disciple]

I brought up the 5-3-1 a while back and ended up being a bad idea based on earlier seasons for -2003-2005 for john Morrison system because some losses are too close together and would ruin your bankroll.

Even with a 200unit bankroll limit made a good point where 7/5 method still uses 1%. So if we use .5% we would have to win double of what 7/5 does.

Only other way i can think of is the labby. that seems to be my answer for every thing. As you can see in my thread though i have a lot of units in play even though Im above 50%.

Thanks for the correction on my math.

Im sure this will bring more out of the box thinkers into the circle.

[Kelloggs]

Is this like the 135 system on Wallcos system?

BTW. I trusted u guys with the system as I traveled Route 66 but NOOOOOO. Loser weekend. iphone gambeling sucks.

My avatar, the big hot dog man is on mRoute 66

Do people outside the US know what that is?

Most people focus more on the real subject in this thread. Have a nice trip but please use another thread for all the stuff that has nothing to do with Stiflers system

[Stifler]

29.12.2012

S1

(B Bet) Ind: Indiana -8 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u

S2

(A Bet) Orl fade: Toronto +4 1,10u

S4

(B Bet) Atl fade: Cleveland +5,5 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u
(A Bet) Tor fade: Orlando -4 1,10u

records:
S1: W 31 | L 2 (-5,90 units)
S2: W 15 | L 0 (+15,00 units)
S3: W 8 | L 0 (+8,00 units)
S4: W 20 | L 0 (+21,00 units)

pending:
- S1 Ind, C Bet on 31.12.2012
- S4 Atl fade, C Bet on 31.12.2012
- S2 Orl, B Bet on 07.01.2013
- S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 02.01.2013


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[J.M. Disciple]

Most people focus more on the real subject in this thread. Have a nice trip but please use another thread for all the stuff that has nothing to do with Stiflers system

[Stifler]

I brought up the 5-3-1 a while back and ended up being a bad idea based on earlier seasons for -2003-2005 for john Morrison system because some losses are too close together and would ruin your bankroll.

Even with a 200unit bankroll limit made a good point where 7/5 method still uses 1%. So if we use .5% we would have to win double of what 7/5 does.

Only other way i can think of is the labby. that seems to be my answer for every thing. As you can see in my thread though i have a lot of units in play even though Im above 50%.

I always wonder who gives the guarantee to hit better on C, D bets long run? I never liked the idea of a 7/5 labby on C/D bets or even ur 1/3/5 labby. This might work out short term, but i think sooner or later ur getting the boomerang.

[J.M. Disciple]

I know this is not a system play, but why are the Jazz +9.5 vs LAC? They only lost by 2 points and almost won SU vs LAC just the other night. Yet majority of the public are on LAC. Leaning SAS, UTA, & MIL tomorrow to get some action.

Good night all.

[J.M. Disciple]

I always wonder who gives the guarantee to hit better on C, D bets long run? I never liked the idea of a 7/5 labby on C/D bets or even ur 1/3/5 labby. This might work out short term, but i think sooner or later ur getting the boomerang.

Does not seem like your system has much variance in it so far. So many series win, the losses are recovered super fast. You are correct though. Your back test was only 5 years correct? I know other system I followed toughest years were between 2002 - 2006. May want to check those out.

You are right though the labby can be over rated because of the "required 34 win %" to show a profit. Most people look at any system that hits 50% and expects labby to conquer it. If that was the case than people would be raping baccarat online. Casino's are not dumb. They have $1 min and $1,000 max bet. Even with 1,000 units running a labby you can still reach max bet hitting 49-50%. I have tried several times beating online casinos with the labby; just can't be done.

Turned $50 into $1,500 and dropped it all the way back down to $300 before quiting, so yes I made a profit doing it, but out of all the simulations I ran with black jack & baccarat it can not be beat with the labby.

No AI in sports betting though. Some time this week I will show some fantastic labby results and graphs which proves labby can be effective when use properly.

GOod NIght officially.

[Stifler]

30.12.2012

no plays today

[Grinder12000]

Don't worry about Kellogg JMD. He does not understand how this thread works. He's just here for free picks and not part of the family/community/support group.

Ignore him :-)

[unitedlad]

Missed out on the A and B bets for the Det Fade series. So on my C Bet tonight against Milwaukee.

[J.M. Disciple]

Just cause you miss a bet and it wins does not mean you continue with it.

Did you follow entire season? Im sure you missed a lot of bets but doesn't mean you should pick up where the series left off.

[unitedlad]

Just cause you miss a bet and it wins does not mean you continue with it.

Did you follow entire season? Im sure you missed a lot of bets but doesn't mean you should pick up where the series left off.

Of course it does. I'm playing the same series, I just missed the A and B bet which lost.

[Grinder12000]

The thing with labbies is that you need to adjust each line at times. I'm not a labby lover at all but my system anal Rainman buddy has run hundreds and he seems to do well because he'll have lets say 4 labbys running at one time and will readjust each line so that they never really shrink to zero. Pulling numbers from one line that is growing weak from a strong line an so forth.

As for THIS Chase.

I feel the 1st year of a system is almost a look and feel year. How does it REALLY go and what are the inherent problems that pop up that you do not see in back testing. Then NEXT year we can really tweak the betting structure. "we've" done a good job already with figuring out its nuances. Have not yet had THREE series all going against each other which can happen and would really be a brain fry (hopefully I'm not iPhone wagering at that time).

[Grinder12000]

A question for all of us cancelers. (when we do not play opposing sides and cancel out the games without wagering) .

Are you basically now making this a 3 game chase ("A"=0u, "B"=1.1u, "C"= 3.31u, "D"= 4.85u)

OR

just extend this to a 5 game chase with the 4 normal wagers.

[Wallco99]

A question for all of us cancelers. (when we do not play opposing sides and cancel out the games without wagering) .

Are you basically now making this a 3 game chase ("A"=0u, "B"=1.1u, "C"= 3.31u, "D"= 4.85u)

OR

just extend this to a 5 game chase with the 4 normal wagers.

Play the next game in progression, stopping at D as always. The other way will cost you a fortune if you lose since we are now chasing to win 2 units on the series instead of 1 unit (since we also have to make up for the skipped game that won). If you skip A, play B for 2 units, not 2.1. And so on. If you are only playing to win 1 unit, then you defeated the whole purpose of the skip.

[Stifler]

31.12.2012

S1

(C Bet) Ind: Indiana -8 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u | Indiana +1 4,85u
(A Bet) Chic fade: Charlotte +11,5 1,10u

S4

(C Bet) Atl fade: Cleveland +5,5 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u | Houston - no line up atm


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[Stifler]

- Houston line added, played it for -114 odds.

31.12.2012

S1

(C Bet) Ind: Indiana -8 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u | Indiana +1 4,85u
(A Bet) Chic fade: Charlotte +11,5 1,10u

S4

(C Bet) Atl fade: Cleveland +5,5 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u | Houston -4 4,85u


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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

[LakeShow]

lets get this, good luck stifler

[Maleku]

Let's snag these C bets fellas!!

[brian123321]

Slept through tip off of the pacers game. Glad the game is close and that the pacers are losing so i was able to lock in my C bet as a 2nd half play. Was kicking myself when i pulled up this thread 10min after tip off.

[kilrathi]

nicely done indiana and charlotte
lets go rockets!!

[comala57]

Great night Stifmiester!!!!!!

[cienfuegoscamilo]

we cleared the C bets. Nice!!

GJ Stifler on your system

[TB12]

Great rebound from our D bet loss, thanks for everything you do Stifler

[Wallco99]

Between this system and my NBA Chase 110, I had a very profitable evening. New Year will start out well.

[J.M. Disciple]

Happy New Year everyone!

Ended the year off right hitting a 5 unit parlay

[Grinder12000]

Please keep to the subject. And do not deviate from the chase. We are tired of all this happiness and good will. I don't want to have to search 3 or 4 posts for Stiflers wisdom. It just takes too long.

thank you I await for your reply.

[Wallco99]

Please keep to the subject. And do not deviate from the chase. We are tired of all this happiness and good will. I don't want to have to search 3 or 4 posts for Stiflers wisdom. It just takes too long.

thank you I await for your reply.

Who's the stooge pointing at Lincoln?

[Huego]

Great night fellas!

[Grinder12000]

That tall dude with the hat stepped in front of me when my wife tried to take a photo.

but seriously have a great new year and lets kick ass in 2013

Rod

[overcome]

going to start upping my units cuz stifler the boss

[ColdBeerHere]

Thanks for the cash Randy, er I mean Stifler.