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  • benrama
    SBR MVP
    • 01-19-11
    • 1499

    #1191
    Yea, I don't give Bulldogs or Warriors a chance either, just aren't consistent enough mentally this year to make it all the way to a GF and win. It's a 4 horse race and seems destined for a Souths vs Roosters GF, don't write the Storm off though their discipline will be key come finals time and Bellamy is the master at having the team peak at the right time. Sea Eagles just don't have the offensive system working yet this year - though who knows the Eels are good at playing other teams into form

    Roosters to win it all IMO.
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    • MrXYZ
      SBR MVP
      • 02-18-11
      • 2342

      #1192
      For me it's down to 3 teams. Souths, Storm & Roosters. I'm expecting a "cinderella" team ( e.g. Warriors 2011, Raiders 2012) to emerge out of nowhere & shake things up as well - maybe Panthers lol.
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      • Tim Gerry Mander
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-14-12
        • 869

        #1193
        Originally posted by s2230011
        I honestly dont think the Dogs are a chance. Warriors are lucky to be in that list, but it is doable on their day, but not that Dogs. They dont have the halves or the backs that the other teams have.
        Bit harsh mate....

        Apart from Mitch Brown, the rest of the backline would walk into any other side in some position.
        Barba and Morris are Origin class, while Inu and Perrett are NZ Internationals.

        As for the halves, Josh Reynolds is a pretty handy player and Hodkinson won a premiership from memory with Manly.

        It all comes down to the forwards, who have been below par this season, affecting the performance of the backs.
        No coincidence that the top teams have dominant forward packs which allow their halves and outside backs more time to pick their spots in attack while the defensive line is on the retreat and in two minds.
        Put the Souths backline with the Tigers or Eels forward pack and will see how good they perform.

        I agree with Sando, the winner will be from that group of 6 teams.

        At this stage, the Rabbitohs look the best all-round team.
        However, all it takes is a couple of inuries at crucial stages, a lucky bounce or dodgy refs call and things can change in an instant.

        Just look at last season, the Dogs were red-hot, while the Storm were struggling through Origin with many "experts" writing them off.
        They then went on a lethal run to the GF and completely shut-down the Bulldogs by stifling their pet second-man Barba play by rushing up outside and the Dogs had no Plan B.
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        • s2230011
          SBR Sharp
          • 06-14-10
          • 368

          #1194
          I dont know but I dont rate the Dogs halves or backs as well as you do.

          I do not see how these players would 'walk' into any of the other 4 sides. Barba on current form would be behind Inglis, Slater or Stewart. Perett is nowhere near the player he was a couple of years ago, he is obviously a good finisher but his involvement is way way down, he wouldnt make any of the other top 4 sides. I think Inu is going pretty well but I think he wouldnt be ahead of the Roosters or Manly centers. I like JMoz, think he gives 100% all the time.

          The halves well they are by far worse than any of the top4 halves. Would you pick them ahead of Sutton and Reynolds? Cherry Evens and Foran? Pearce and Maloney?Widdop and Cronk ? In my opinion .. just my opinion but all four combinations would be far far better than the Bulldogs'.

          I thought the Dogs didnt get enough credit in making the GF last year, if you looked at their playing roster at the start of 2012 I would have said they would struggle to make the 8. So I thought they did fantastically well to go that far.
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          • Tim Gerry Mander
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-14-12
            • 869

            #1195
            All I said was that any of the 1-5 (Brown excluded) would be welcome in any team, not saying that you'd replace one of the top 4 teams' backline with Canterbury's.
            I agree that Perrett's been a little off this season, he has made a number of uncharacteristic errors and his run out of dummy half is not as explosive.
            Barba's problems are well-known and i have seen a noticeable improvement since he came back, but he is still not up to 2012 form.
            Inu and Morris are also not playing as well as last year.
            However, you don't become a garbage player overnight and for mine, it comes back to the forwards dominating the ruck and giving your outside backs that extra time and space to shine.

            DCE and Foran are the best halves combo going around at the moment, no argument from me.
            I didn't say the halves would walk into the other top 4 teams, but they'd sure walk into the Eels, Dragons, Tigers and Broncos.
            My point is highlighted by the Roosters of 2013.
            Last year, Mitchell Pearce played behind a beaten pack and he was terrible.
            This year, he's playing behind the second best pack and he has that extra time to pick his spots and set up his outside players.
            Yes, he's a shit player and shouldn't be playing Origin, but it just goes to show you how much a team needs a good pack to succeed.
            Look at Thurston. The Cowboys forwards are struggling and he's having a hard time of it - doesn't make him a bad player. Give him the time and space, like QLD did in Origin 2, and he'll tear any opposition a new one.

            I expected the Dogs to go one better this season given the acquisition of Tony Williams and the emergence of Jackson and Finucane.
            However, Barba's problems, Graham's suspension and the injuries to Kasiano and Pritchard obviously affected their pre-season training and it was plain for all to see early on.
            They've gotten better, but are still a little off where they were last year.
            Given Hasler's record, I hope he's learnt from last year where they peaked too early and fell short when it mattered.
            That is why I'm prepared to give them a few more weeks before I write them off this year.
            Their forward pack is up there with the best and if they can dominate, their backs can hold their own and put points on the board.

            Every Souths supporter is walking around like they've won the comp already.
            Things can change very quickly.
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            • sando
              SBR MVP
              • 04-30-12
              • 3723

              #1196
              Sharp post TGM! However I disagree with one thing. I think without a doubt Reynolds/Sutton are the premier halves pairing in the league at the moment. Reynolds with the best overall kicking game in the league and with Sutton's ball running ability (reminds me a lot of Daley in his prime) I say they have more to offer than DCF and Foran, but I do still rate the Manly boys second ahead of Pearce and Maloney third.
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              • benrama
                SBR MVP
                • 01-19-11
                • 1499

                #1197
                Fair point re: forward packs, but this is precisely the dogs problem. Williams, for example, is a cancer to that team IMO, lots of one out running with little steam, and dodgy offloads. He gets a hard time from Sterlo and the team and rightly so.

                I also think Souths have the best halves pairing, I put Roosters second only because SBW essentially plays a halves role a lot of the time, and he's amazing at it, his passing is world class and incredible for a man his size. Third I'd put Manly and/or Storm, and only then the doggies. All the top 4 have great full backs with Ben Barba being better only than Mini.

                Doggies just aren't mentally "there" this year, and the book is out on how to contain Barba. They *might* cause a first round finals upset, but I give them a very very low chance to put together enough games in a row to win a GF.
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                • MrXYZ
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-18-11
                  • 2342

                  #1198
                  CANTERBURY BULLDOGS vs MELBOURNE STORM
                  Game Total UNDER 38.5 @1.85 x 2

                  without their star trio, Storm will be lucky to score more than a try, if that. Be careful though, if the Dogs get rolling they could crash this one over. But at most this one should see 34-36 points so it's 2 units at risk.
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                  • MrXYZ
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-18-11
                    • 2342

                    #1199
                    Found 38.5 at Sportsbet. Losing 5 cents value but in the NRL that half point is worth it.
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                    • the tross
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-14-13
                      • 450

                      #1200
                      Originally posted by MrXYZ
                      CANTERBURY BULLDOGS vs MELBOURNE STORM
                      Game Total UNDER 38.5 @1.85 x 2

                      without their star trio, Storm will be lucky to score more than a try, if that. Be careful though, if the Dogs get rolling they could crash this one over. But at most this one should see 34-36 points so it's 2 units at risk.
                      sweeto Mr Xyz i'll tail that. Plus dogs 1-12/ under 37.5 @ $5 (sportsbet) Dogs cant score for shite. Still got nightmares over that dogs v eels game with no second half score earlier in the season to fuk the overs backers.
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                      • MrXYZ
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-18-11
                        • 2342

                        #1201
                        Thanks tross, good luck with the parlay.

                        It's great to see Mr Gold aka That Guy is on the under as well, makes me extra confident.

                        Both Centrebet & TAB have 38.5 @1.90. Looks like I jumped the gun.
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                        • the tross
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-14-13
                          • 450

                          #1202
                          Fuk i hate the bulldogs!!!.
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                          • rohan22no
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 07-20-11
                            • 365

                            #1203
                            Bad Luck XYZ, hope you're not on suicide watch bro :P
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                            • MrXYZ
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-18-11
                              • 2342

                              #1204
                              I'm fukkn speechless. A field goal when they're up by 38 points to 0 with less that an minute to go. This is the worst beat ever.
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                              • MrXYZ
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-18-11
                                • 2342

                                #1205
                                Originally posted by rohan22no
                                Bad Luck XYZ, hope you're not on suicide watch bro :P
                                Not over 2 units, but I'm stunned, may not watch another NRL for a long time.
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                                • Shazzadude
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-28-12
                                  • 443

                                  #1206
                                  Hard luck Mr. XYZ. To be fair, we were lucky to even be in with a shot after the first half of the second.
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                                  • MrXYZ
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-18-11
                                    • 2342

                                    #1207
                                    Originally posted by Shazzadude
                                    Hard luck Mr. XYZ. To be fair, we were lucky to even be in with a shot after the first half of the second.
                                    You're right, should've been 40+ points scored the way it was going. But WTF that's twice the Bulldogs have killed me this year.
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                                    • Tim Gerry Mander
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-14-12
                                      • 869

                                      #1208
                                      Originally posted by MrXYZ
                                      I'm fukkn speechless. A field goal when they're up by 38 points to 0 with less that an minute to go. This is the worst beat ever.
                                      That's Jamie Soward bullshit - kick a FG for the phuck of it.

                                      But realistically, they scored 8 tries and Hodkinson missed 5 conversions (with 2 hitting the post). Before last week, he wa slotting them at over 90%.

                                      It just makes it worse when you are a minute or so from cashing and you get done by a bullshit play.
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                                      • MrXYZ
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-18-11
                                        • 2342

                                        #1209
                                        NORTH QLD COWBOYS vs MANLY SEA EAGLES
                                        Game Total OVER 38.0 @1.90 x1

                                        A tough one with Cowboys missing so many players. Manly could win 42-0 very easily, but being MNF anything could happen.
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                                        • MrXYZ
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-18-11
                                          • 2342

                                          #1210
                                          Cash it! This one was safely in the bank with plenty of time left in the game. I hope some of you guys jumped on the easy money tonight!
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                                          • rohan22no
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 07-20-11
                                            • 365

                                            #1211
                                            I faded you and tailed TG

                                            great tip, right on the money.
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                                            • MrXYZ
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-18-11
                                              • 2342

                                              #1212
                                              State of Origin 3
                                              NSW vs QLD
                                              QLD ML @1.55 x2

                                              Rolling with the Sportsbet promotion - best refunded if you team loses by less than 10 points. Doesn't matter because Queensland will achieve 8 series wins in a row tonight. Their star studded lineup has been on this position many times before and Game 3 is less about stats than it is about handling the pressure & going for glory.
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                                              • the tross
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-14-13
                                                • 450

                                                #1213
                                                I took qld -3.5 for 2 units last week although it pains to say it, go qld you mtherfukers . Im so conflicted. Goodluck bro i like your strategy.
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                                                • MrXYZ
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-18-11
                                                  • 2342

                                                  #1214
                                                  Cash that winner! NSW were clearly the better team but as we see every year they are unable to finish when it matters. The QLD dominance continues.

                                                  Tross you were robbed mate, tough beat with that idiot ruining the game.
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                                                  • the tross
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 02-14-13
                                                    • 450

                                                    #1215
                                                    Originally posted by MrXYZ
                                                    Cash that winner! NSW were clearly the better team but as we see every year they are unable to finish when it matters. The QLD dominance continues.

                                                    Tross you were robbed mate, tough beat with that idiot ruining the game.
                                                    All good mate cant complain really, i took one of Sando's props which should pay,also had Qld 1-5 as some minor insurance and tailed Akatana's pick on the J-league (nice guy too) . Im up but really could of and should of been something sweeter. When i saw that cokhead lying there i wanted to jump in and rabbit punch the Ouyster motherf...r myself lol. wtf was that???
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                                                    • MrXYZ
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-18-11
                                                      • 2342

                                                      #1216
                                                      NRL Round 19
                                                      WESTS TIGERS vs NEW ZEALAND
                                                      WARRIORS -4.0 @1.90 x1
                                                      Game Total OVER 40.0 @1.90 x1


                                                      Tigers season is over and they face a Warriors team making a late charge into finals contention. Would make this a bigger play if not for Benji. At one point the best player in the NRL, he could turn his final home game upside down. Also rolling with the over. Plenty of tries in store regardless who wins. Getting my plays in early as I see both moving before kickoff.
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                                                      • sando
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-30-12
                                                        • 3723

                                                        #1217
                                                        I like both plays as well mate, just struggling to try and get a grasp on the "Benji factor" myself, I truly can't decide if it's a positive or a negative for the Tigers?
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                                                        • s2230011
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 06-14-10
                                                          • 368

                                                          #1218
                                                          Spot on Sando ... ppl assume it will be a fairytale and the crowd will get behind him, but let me tell you most Tigers fans on radio and other media are tearing him down. I wouldnt be surprised that it turns ugly if he doesnt start well
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                                                          • Dr.Gonzo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-05-09
                                                            • 4660

                                                            #1219
                                                            Leichhardt is the biggest issue for NZ, Wests are hardest to beat on this track and are always well refereed. NZ don't have the greatest record against Wests either.

                                                            As for Benji, he's biggest criticism is his refusal to put his body on the line. If he hasn't got a new contract yet does he really want to get injured beforehand?

                                                            I think NZ are the play, but it's just a standard play, wouldn't get carried away.
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                                                            • benrama
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-19-11
                                                              • 1499

                                                              #1220
                                                              I live near Tiger territory and go to a few games, I'd be very surprised if this was anything other than a hugely supportive crowd.

                                                              Benji is one of those guys who stays the extra 30 mins to sign autographs at training, so no matter what talkback radio says - which is usually dominated by nutters and people who like to whinge - he's much loved and will not leave on a bitter note.

                                                              That said - being a farwell won't magically turn the Tigers into a better team either.
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                                                              • Bazz27
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 02-21-09
                                                                • 196

                                                                #1221
                                                                Talk about draw the crabs to yourself Benji. R/League fans can be ruthless, they'll turn on Marshall tonite if he doesn't put in & going by his committment he's unlikely to have a solid dig. He's in for a long nite but should will be good theatre. Warriors to cover..
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                                                                • Tim Gerry Mander
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-14-12
                                                                  • 869

                                                                  #1222
                                                                  Last game at Leichhardt, but they still have a game at Campbelltown the week after.

                                                                  After that, they play 2 games at their other "home" ground, Allianz.

                                                                  I still think the Warriors have too much to play for, if they lose here, they are in danger of missing the top 8.
                                                                  6 of their last 8 games are against teams that are above them on the ladder and their points differential is terrible.

                                                                  Agree with Gonzo.
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                                                                  • the tross
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-14-13
                                                                    • 450

                                                                    #1223
                                                                    like it Mr xyz. both -1.5 HT and
                                                                    -4 FT lines for a unit each for me .Just hope the local mafia didnt get to the refs.
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                                                                    • MrXYZ
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-18-11
                                                                      • 2342

                                                                      #1224
                                                                      1-1. Easy cover by the Warriors but too many errors in the last 10 minutes of the game killed the total.

                                                                      Benji's a champion player and even though my money was in the Warriors, the part of me that's a fan would've liked to have seen him walk away with a win tonight. Too many commentators and armchair critics have forgotten he not only won a premiership for the Tigers but also captained New Zealand when they beat Australia in the World Cup final.
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                                                                      • the tross
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 02-14-13
                                                                        • 450

                                                                        #1225
                                                                        really impressed with their young pack. And as for benji, id be quite bitter about the fact that the NRL have made big $$$ out of marketing him as a brand yet what has he got in return?.
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