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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23425

    #5811
    finished
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    • Louisvillekid1
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-17-07
      • 52143

      #5812
      Looks like they scratched the 2 in finale
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23425

        #5813
        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
        Looks like they scratched the 2 in finale


        thanks.. I replaced with another
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23425

          #5814
          Originally posted by JBEX
          saratoga


          dirt good or fast and R1 must be on the turf


          R1 #8 seaside dancer (3-1) scratched
          R2 #1 zandora (7-2)
          R3 #1 risky mischief (5-2)

          debuter was a $350k yearling.. by elite sire out of a stakes winning mare ($493k) who ran 2nd in a 14 horse field in her debut.. wound up breaking her maiden in start #3 (still 2yo) with a huge equibase figure.. dam sire limehouse is a speed influence another positive.. guessing around 3-2 but looks tough

          R6 #4 slam dunk (6-1)


          have a hunch they'll be at least a couple of good runners down the road exiting this msw race.. mine $450k yearling by same sire as above (into mischief) and out of a winning grand slam mare (speed, win early).. she has produced 4 winners from as many starters including 1 stakes winner.. jose ortiz 2/3 last 60 days riding for trainer rudolphe brisset.. believe he was a mott assistant whose been on his own less than 2 years (not positive about this).. has worked well but workouts are down on my list as an important handicapping factor.. too obvious and plenty of horses with slow to moderate works win or run well first out



          R8 #3 short pour (6-1)

          like what she was able to do as a 2yo running on the turf.. traffic trouble in her 3yo debut off a 6 month layoff last out.. think they'll be an improved effort today with that race under her



          R10 #2 andi's kitten (6-1)

          R10 #7 downstream




          del mar


          R4 #11 navy queen (12-1) pp8

          2yo fts..homebred by a way above avg debut sire and out of a stakes winning mare who has 9 winners from as many starters.. 3 of 4 that ran as a 2 yo's won.. trainer only 1/16 as a debut trainer but that horse paid around $35..7 lb winless bug rides but that will only enhance the price and have to think this might not require the most tactical ride... get out and go


          R6 #1 roses for laura (6-1)


          added del mar 4
          Last edited by JBEX; 07-31-19, 05:23 PM.
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          • JBEX
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-02-12
            • 23425

            #5815
            added R5 to above post
            Last edited by JBEX; 07-31-19, 05:23 PM.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23425

              #5816
              last one I posted at dmr is R6 not 5...corrected above
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              • Louisvillekid1
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-17-07
                • 52143

                #5817
                Maybe one day

                you can teach me how to win vs cali racing

                I can’t stand it

                ty for sharing

                even Del Mar meet

                and hey , I dislike my home town racing in KY

                So don’t take offense

                New York circuit is where it’s at imo
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23425

                  #5818
                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                  Maybe one day

                  you can teach me how to win vs cali racing

                  I can’t stand it

                  ty for sharing

                  even Del Mar meet

                  and hey , I dislike my home town racing in KY

                  So don’t take offense

                  New York circuit is where it’s at imo

                  I just cap and don't play as you know so i don't claim to be a winner at this game east or west coast ..as far as california I go about it the same way as I do eastern tracks..like you don't like it as much ... speed nature of santa anita and smaller fields in general probably what it is I guess ..definetly a different feel to it as far as i'm concerned
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23425

                    #5819
                    lost lots of money when I did play and it's been about 15 years since I was a daily money player..I love capping regardless of the money and this forum makes it a lot more interesting for me to do it
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-14-12
                      • 36100

                      #5820
                      Originally posted by JBEX
                      lost lots of money when I did play and it's been about 15 years since I was a daily money player..I love capping regardless of the money and this forum makes it a lot more interesting for me to do it
                      Honest assessment there JBEX. Tough game. Join the club. I was holding my own on contest play (breaking about even/losing small amounts)until last year to year and a half. Now on a really bad run. Can not hit broad side of a barn capping or tailing. Anyway too bad tournament play was not really around in your day of gambling as it does help mitigate the negative aspects of the game. The sharks are swimming JBEX, and they are scoring those coins. Guess players like you and I will have to settle for small scores etc. GL.
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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23425

                        #5821
                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                        Honest assessment there JBEX. Tough game. Join the club. I was holding my own on contest play (breaking about even/losing small amounts)until last year to year and a half. Now on a really bad run. Can not hit broad side of a barn capping or tailing. Anyway too bad tournament play was not really around in your day of gambling as it does help mitigate the negative aspects of the game. The sharks are swimming JBEX, and they are scoring those coins. Guess players like you and I will have to settle for small scores etc. GL.

                        as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time
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                        • Easy-Rider 66
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-14-12
                          • 36100

                          #5822
                          Originally posted by JBEX
                          as I've said before i just enjoy the process and basically cannot change that.. if you were to just stick to WP bets at the big tracks I believe it's 16-17% take out.. it'll never be 10 for most players with a rebate but I would guess a reasonable volume (but still high) might get you to 13-14%..i think at that point you might just accept takes a little higher than contest play and stick to simple WP bets.. jmo and others may feel differently.. got no skin in the game but of course like to pick well over time
                          Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.
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                          • Louisvillekid1
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-17-07
                            • 52143

                            #5823
                            Nothing wrong with that jbex

                            i love handicapping

                            cliche but journey > destination

                            nothing more fulfilling than this sport

                            it’s really takes a special type of handicapper

                            But imo if you can’t read a form

                            ill never trust that person betting other sports

                            this is more of our past time than baseball

                            this truly separates handicappers

                            I digress my rant lol ,
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #5824
                              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                              Get your drift, but the sharks have gravitated to contest play IMO. Chance to win upwards of 30K. Lockdown games so players can not chase at the end. Feeders to win your way into the big games for much less. And I know you rarely post ex bets, but along with w/p those are my personal fav. Anyhow GL JBEX posting here. I understand the Game has beaten both of us down to a certain degree, but we like it nonetheless.
                              I’m sure your correct on the contest

                              is it like fantasy

                              like fan duel eske ?

                              Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

                              but not how you play

                              reason I ask

                              because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-14-12
                                • 36100

                                #5825
                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                I’m sure your correct on the contest

                                is it like fantasy

                                like fan duel eske ?

                                Ive been in some handicapping tournaments at borgata or casinos

                                but not how you play

                                reason I ask

                                because fan duel or draft kings would be missing out on such
                                They are many different type of contests. Most popular on Horse tourneys is pick and Pray, You pick one primary and one alternate. You get credit for w/p monies, Once the gates open 1st race of the contest no changing the picks. Caps of $42 for win and $22 for Place. Check out the site LKID> any other questions hit me back.
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23425

                                  #5826
                                  saratoga

                                  R1 #2 get smokin (8-1)

                                  bad bunch.. castellano riding an $11k yearling purchase for an avg trainer who's 1/53 with debut horses?? bottom of ped a little interesting.. 1 winner from 1 starter and was a halfway decent horse going by dpi.. that one was a turf winner


                                  R3 #6 bahamian prince (4-1)

                                  according to the maiden stats look like the sire is new.. but he's (the sire) by gone west who retired a long time ago.. very strange?? even at $40k this one cost a decent amount for the specs.. dam sire posse is a speed influence.. thought enough to ship up here off monmouth works and they bring along paco lopez


                                  R4 #2 eighty seven north

                                  finally right level, surface and jockey come together.. two favorites scratched so ml means sht




                                  R5

                                  #3 lune lake (20-1)

                                  don't get ml?? her turf sprints not bad at all except for her last race.. but that was from the 12 post


                                  #5 tradeable (15-1)



                                  R9 #8 rocketry (9-5)

                                  R10 #4 wacky pal (5-1)

                                  like his effort vs open company (today ny breds) at gulfstream in his debut.. 7th (12 horse field) by a little less than 5 lengths but put up a good figure.. also had to break from the rail in a 12 horse field.. first race off the layoff (3yo debut) comment "saw off 3/16 th" so I'll excuse that.. last race battled on the front end held very well to finish 3rd with a decent figure.. castellano for saez, nice middle post and je very good 3rd off the layoff



                                  del mar


                                  R5 #4 naughty tiger (8-1)
                                  R6 # 6 unapologetic (5-2)
                                  R7 #3 flying flirt (20-1)

                                  Last edited by JBEX; 08-01-19, 04:26 PM.
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23425

                                    #5827
                                    made a switch a couple of minutes after I posted.. R5 I have #5 tradeable replacing #7 galadriel's light.. have #3 which I originally posted also (2 horses that race)
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #5828
                                      Glad to see you on Bahamian prince

                                      4/1 would be a steal
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                                      • JBEX
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 23425

                                        #5829
                                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                        Glad to see you on Bahamian prince

                                        4/1 would be a steal

                                        yeah.. he'll probably get bet.. probably a bad sign in the high single digits
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #5830
                                          Idk

                                          would have to be sharp money

                                          public doesn’t respect NJ shippers

                                          especially firsters

                                          shit, Jason Servis made a living off that very thing
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23425

                                            #5831
                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                            Idk

                                            would have to be sharp money

                                            public doesn’t respect NJ shippers

                                            especially firsters

                                            shit, Jason Servis made a living off that very thing

                                            tough read.. looking at it again I think the ml maker gave him a lot of respect making him 4-1 considering pletcher and the two who ran decent already.. not a Lukas fan but he's never been this low
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #5832
                                              Good points
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23425

                                                #5833
                                                finished saratoga.. be out for a while.. gl all
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23425

                                                  #5834
                                                  added last 3 @ del mar
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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23425

                                                    #5835
                                                    saratoga


                                                    R1 #6 go get that (6-1)
                                                    R1 #7 smidge (12-1)



                                                    R2 #3 cool as you like (9-5)
                                                    R3 #3 light in the sky (3-1)
                                                    R4 #7 appealing briefs (10-1)

                                                    have to try and beat servis #1 who claimed his horse three back and he ran a lifetime best figure on the turf at 8 years old in his next start (at least on the brisnet's) ..give me a break !!


                                                    R5 #1 tactical pursuit (6-1)
                                                    R6 #4 here comes your man (3-1)


                                                    R7 #3 english bee (9-2)
                                                    R8 #7 backyard heaven (6-1)
                                                    R9 #1 olendon (6-1)

                                                    back euro-class,jv to irad, 1st lasix and blinkers on.. more acclamated to surroundings.. fact he lost to favorite last out will only help price


                                                    R10 #5 taralucci (8-1)
                                                    R10 #8 fika (8-1)



                                                    del mar


                                                    R3 #1 cash for cass (4-1)
                                                    R4 #6 challah (10-1)
                                                    R5 #6 clear to close (2-1)


                                                    enough c's for ya
                                                    Last edited by JBEX; 08-02-19, 03:32 PM.
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23425

                                                      #5836
                                                      finished
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #5837
                                                        Get em today

                                                        think the 7 is must use in 5th
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23425

                                                          #5838
                                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                                          saratoga


                                                          R1 #6 go get that (6-1)
                                                          R1 #7 smidge (12-1)



                                                          R2 #3 cool as you like (9-5)
                                                          R3 #3 light in the sky (3-1)
                                                          R4 #7 appealing briefs (10-1)

                                                          have to try and beat servis #1 who claimed his horse three back and he ran a lifetime best figure on the turf at 8 years old in his next start (at least on the brisnet's) ..give me a break !!


                                                          R5 #1 tactical pursuit (6-1)
                                                          R6 #4 here comes your man (3-1)


                                                          R7 #3 english bee (9-2)
                                                          R8 #7 backyard heaven (6-1)
                                                          R9 #1 olendon (6-1)

                                                          back euro-class,jv to irad, 1st lasix and blinkers on.. more acclamated to surroundings.. fact he lost to favorite last out will only help price


                                                          R10 #5 taralucci (8-1)
                                                          R10 #8 fika (8-1)

                                                          breaks the track record with this horse
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                                                          • JBEX
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23425

                                                            #5839
                                                            Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                            Get em today

                                                            think the 7 is must use in 5th

                                                            thanks..know you like the finger lakes shippers spotted reasonably and englehart.. looks good except that hernandez is a terrible route rider .. on the other hand this might not require a real skillful ride..bol
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23425

                                                              #5840
                                                              added del mar 3-5
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23425

                                                                #5841
                                                                saratoga


                                                                R1 #5 brewmeister (4-1)

                                                                loaded with big pedigree 1sters but mine is exp for the specs so always stick with that


                                                                R2 #5 verve's humor (15-1)


                                                                R3 #9 glory road (4-1)

                                                                exact same reason as R1


                                                                R4 #3 patriot drive (8-1)



                                                                R6 #3 up and onward (15-1)


                                                                $600k firster by tapit out a grade 1 winning mare (1st foal) who broke her maiden first out.. hennig very profitable with maidens and first time starters



                                                                R8 #6 please flatter me (15-1) test stakes grade 1


                                                                mountaineer


                                                                R8 #4 plus que parfait (7-2) west virginia derby grade 3
                                                                Last edited by JBEX; 08-03-19, 03:28 PM.
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23425

                                                                  #5842
                                                                  added a couple
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23425

                                                                    #5843
                                                                    R11 #1 elenzee (8-1)



                                                                    del mar


                                                                    R10 #8 dulverton darling (5-1)
                                                                    Last edited by JBEX; 08-03-19, 05:52 PM.
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23425

                                                                      #5844
                                                                      del mar 10 above
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23425

                                                                        #5845
                                                                        saratoga


                                                                        R1 #4 daphne moon (2-1)

                                                                        $525k 2yo auction purchase and definitely a bunch for the pedigree.. $25k stallion and lone starter from the dam won a little over $100k with 2 wins from 7 starts including winning her debut at the keeneland fall meet.. also worth noting #5 lucky dime (4-1) is a half to monster mitole and the dam has produced two other winners besides (3/3)..trained by mott whose having a great meet


                                                                        R4 #7 sparkling sky (4-1)

                                                                        $650k yearling purchase makes her debut going 2 turns on the turf.. dam won debut by 9 at arlington park.. pletcher with jose ortiz.. chad has two expensive fts (4,5) and kimmel also has one (3)..shug has a firster also with a nice pedigree (2) but not as good as the one's I just mentioned


                                                                        R6 #8 tribecca (6-1)
                                                                        R8 #9 ascender (20-1)


                                                                        R9 saratoga derby

                                                                        looking for something different than the locals who ran well

                                                                        #6 kadar (30-1)

                                                                        missed by a neck and was coming in his first try stateside last race .. today only his 4th career start and cost $836k so hoping he might be something special.. jose ortiz aboard this time.. realize I said looking for something other than locals who ran well but the difference with this one is he did it in an allowance race and not a stakes like the other's


                                                                        #7 cape of good hope (15-1)

                                                                        aiden o'brien, big pedigree who ran fairly well vs solid European company.. only 16 day gap between his euro race two back and his debut in this country last out (kinda quick).. has had about a month to rest off that and should be a lot fresher and maybe more relaxed.. his worst race over there was the race 2 back and that was the only off turf (soft) he'd run on
                                                                        Last edited by JBEX; 08-04-19, 10:24 AM.
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