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  • Easy-Rider 66
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    • 02-14-12
    • 36109

    #4726
    Originally posted by JBEX
    parx..2WP default

    R5 #2 my pirate (15-1)
    R6 #6 gran fortress (6-1) 666 uh oh
    R7 #1a little siete (2-1) 4W

    only if this one goes.. not interested in other part of entry


    R9 #7 perfect ice (6-1)


    mahoning.. 1WP default


    R5 #4 john paul jones (8-1)




    R6 #7 play ball (20-1)
    R7 #2 smoke monster (4-1)
    R8 #8 the lady factor (5-2) 3W
    Shut out
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    • Easy-Rider 66
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-14-12
      • 36109

      #4727
      risked $308/returned $281.60
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23457

        #4728
        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
        risked $308/returned $281.60
        70 horses played
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23457

          #4729
          gulfstream

          R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
          R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP
          R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
          R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3W


          tampa bay.. 2WP default

          R5 #5 olivander (4-1) 3WP
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36109

            #4730
            Originally posted by JBEX
            gulfstream

            R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
            R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP

            R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
            R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3W
            A conservative move here JBEX. Close to the vest. Wish I had more discipline on action bets myself. GL today. Not saying yours are action wagers, but at GP default $4 w/p so you are taking a small shot.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23457

              #4731
              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
              A conservative move here JBEX. Close to the vest. Wish I had more discipline on action bets myself. GL today. Not saying yours are action wagers, but at GP default $4 w/p so you are taking a small shot.
              you can't have imo half the money you'd have on a 3 or 4-1 on a 20-1..of course that's the ml and who knows what they'll go off at.. did go 2WP on the12-1 in R5.. either 1 or 2 WP on these types and an occasional 3 but almost never 4 for me
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23457

                #4732
                added tampa 5
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                • Easy-Rider 66
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-14-12
                  • 36109

                  #4733
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  you can't have imo half the money you'd have on a 3 or 4-1 on a 20-1..of course that's the ml and who knows what they'll go off at.. did go 2WP on the12-1 in R5.. either 1 or 2 WP on these types and an occasional 3 but almost never 4 for me
                  Get your drift. I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about that 20/1 ML. Sometimes you may need to pound so to speak if you really feel the line maker is off. Or if playing real time the public is off.
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23457

                    #4734
                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                    Get your drift. I guess it also depends on how strongly you feel about that 20/1 ML. Sometimes you may need to pound so to speak if you really feel the line maker is off. Or if playing real time the public is off.
                    say you have a 10% edge on a 3-1 vs a 20% edge on a 15-1
                    ..reality most of us have no edge (including me) but have to think positive or why bother..it's more realistic to have a bigger edge at larger odds or you're playing to close to the vest..kind of tight if you only have a 10% edge on higher odds horses ..so using that

                    10%/3 (odds) = 3.3% bankroll
                    20%/15 = 1.33% bankroll

                    this is kelly formula for % bet
                    % bet = edge (roi)/odds

                    the logic behind betting more on low odds horses
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-14-12
                      • 36109

                      #4735
                      GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.
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                      • Easy-Rider 66
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 02-14-12
                        • 36109

                        #4736
                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                        GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.
                        Ran a good race 3rd
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                        • JBEX
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23457

                          #4737
                          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                          GP R3: 3 False Accusation down to 5/1. Not sure why? Other than the drop of 2 levels. GL.
                          I'm out running around now..

                          last..wide post higher level. .
                          two back..much tougher condition
                          3 back..win this level off the turf..
                          4 back. . front end very fast pace..
                          5-10 back..competetive races at around this level including mdn claimers for a higher tag which is typical
                          for when they end up running in n2L
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                          • Easy-Rider 66
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-14-12
                            • 36109

                            #4738
                            Originally posted by JBEX
                            I'm out running around now..

                            last..wide post higher level. .
                            two back..much tougher condition
                            3 back..win this level off the turf..
                            4 back. . front end very fast pace..
                            5-10 back..competetive races at around this level including mdn claimers for a higher tag which is typical
                            for when they end up running in n2L
                            OK thx for rundown. Did not like his last race(at higher level) but ran well today.
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23457

                              #4739
                              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                              OK thx for rundown. Did not like his last race(at higher level) but ran well today.
                              saw the race so this is hindsight..but the last race was at least a level ,probaby 2 higher than today..the race was (+15/+9)on avg 6 lengths faster than pars for a clm 35KB race and today going for clm16kb
                              so that's a significant effort being relatively close to the front there..on other side trainer 1/48 in turf races past 3 years and 2/37 overall this year lol
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-14-12
                                • 36109

                                #4740
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                gulfstream

                                R1 #3 powerline (20-1) 1WP
                                R3 #3 false accusation (15-1) 1WP
                                R5 #7 four knights (12-1) 2WP
                                R10 #4 mister sense (6-1) 3W.. #5 gran red (10-1) 3W


                                tampa bay.. 2WP default

                                R5 #5 olivander (4-1) 3WP
                                GP R5: winner Pays $48.60

                                GPR10: 4 scored Pays $33.90

                                TB R5: placed Pays $7.80
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                                • Easy-Rider 66
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-14-12
                                  • 36109

                                  #4741
                                  risked $328/returned $371.90
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23457

                                    #4742
                                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                    risked $328/returned $371.90

                                    76 horses played
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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23457

                                      #4743
                                      aqueduct

                                      R2 #7 iona mobe (8-5) 6W
                                      R4 #5 ro bear (7-2) 3WP
                                      R5 #5 southern phantom (12-1) 3W.. #8 classic romeo (15-1) 3W


                                      R7 #4 big thicket (4-1)

                                      love the 1 turn mile experience he's had here and same jock who rode him for 2 wins (winter/spring)
                                      rides again today (alvarado).. he's probably the best rider up north now that the others are down in florida...linda rice excellent off a long layoff and possible she decided to wait for the winter meet to get through these conditions as the competition a lot softer


                                      R8 #4 d'ambrosio (5-2)

                                      same connections as above .. claimed last out from pletcher for $16k and tries $25kn2l today.. rice has outrageous numbers in many categories including 1st off the claim and beaten favorite


                                      gulfstream

                                      R2 #6 rethinkme (15-1)2WP
                                      R5 #2 miss accuse (9-2) 4W #9 iridescent morn (4-1) 4 W
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                                      • JBEX
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 23457

                                        #4744
                                        finished aqueduct
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23457

                                          #4745
                                          added gulf 2 5
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                                          • Easy-Rider 66
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 02-14-12
                                            • 36109

                                            #4746
                                            Hey JBEX: since you have started well maybe continue this tracking segment to start of SARATOGA. Willing to grade until then. I understand you are a long term results guy, and this would give a better idea on how you perform for thousands risked. Think it over. Give you a chance to add Keeneland and Belmont to the mix. Then maybe SAR/DMR we can do a contest.
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23457

                                              #4747
                                              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                              Hey JBEX: since you have started well maybe continue this tracking segment to start of SARATOGA. Willing to grade until then. I understand you are a long term results guy, and this would give a better idea on how you perform for thousands risked. Think it over. Give you a chance to add Keeneland and Belmont to the mix. Then maybe SAR/DMR we can do a contest.
                                              not sure I want to do that..think eventually might not want to bother rating picks as it's just another thing to think about..the larger the sample the better but still feel at high avg odds you need a lot of races to have a high confidence level (what it's called)..if I had more specific numbers on that would help with the decision..let's see what happens a little further down the road
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                                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-14-12
                                                • 36109

                                                #4748
                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                not sure I want to do that..think eventually might not want to bother rating picks as it's just another thing to think about..the larger the sample the better but still feel at high avg odds you need a lot of races to have a high confidence level (what it's called)..if I had more specific numbers on that would help with the decision..let's see what happens a little further down the road
                                                ok sounds good
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                                                • Easy-Rider 66
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-12
                                                  • 36109

                                                  #4749
                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                  aqueduct

                                                  R2 #7 iona mobe (8-5) 6W
                                                  R4 #5 ro bear (7-2) 3WP
                                                  R5 #5 southern phantom (12-1) 3W.. #8 classic romeo (15-1) 3W


                                                  R7 #4 big thicket (4-1)

                                                  love the 1 turn mile experience he's had here and same jock who rode him for 2 wins (winter/spring)
                                                  rides again today (alvarado).. he's probably the best rider up north now that the others are down in florida...linda rice excellent off a long layoff and possible she decided to wait for the winter meet to get through these conditions as the competition a lot softer


                                                  R8 #4 d'ambrosio (5-2)

                                                  same connections as above .. claimed last out from pletcher for $16k and tries $25kn2l today.. rice has outrageous numbers in many categories including 1st off the claim and beaten favorite


                                                  gulfstream

                                                  R2 #6 rethinkme (15-1)2WP
                                                  R5 #2 miss accuse (9-2) 4W #9 iridescent morn (4-1) 4 W
                                                  GP R5: #2 winner Pays $8.40

                                                  AQ R5: 8 scratched
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                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-14-12
                                                    • 36109

                                                    #4750
                                                    risked $371/returned $380.30
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23457

                                                      #4751
                                                      Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                      risked $371/returned $380.30
                                                      84 horses played
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                                                      • JBEX
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23457

                                                        #4752
                                                        probably not many today with tampa closed,aqueduct sloppy and gulf off the turf.. may peak at fairgrounds but not gonna force it
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23457

                                                          #4753
                                                          gulfstream

                                                          R1 #2 the kyd in syd (6-1)
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                                                          • Easy-Rider 66
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-14-12
                                                            • 36109

                                                            #4754
                                                            Laurel Hawthorne
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                                                            • Easy-Rider 66
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-14-12
                                                              • 36109

                                                              #4755
                                                              Originally posted by JBEX
                                                              gulfstream

                                                              R1 #2 the kyd in syd (6-1)
                                                              3rd
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                                                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-14-12
                                                                • 36109

                                                                #4756
                                                                risked $379/returned $380.30
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23457

                                                                  #4757
                                                                  gulfstream

                                                                  R2 #3 bluegrass parkway (10-1) 3W .. #7 dull knife (3-1) 3W


                                                                  probably it today
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                                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-14-12
                                                                    • 36109

                                                                    #4758
                                                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                    gulfstream

                                                                    R2 #3 bluegrass parkway (10-1) 3W .. #7 dull knife (3-1) 3W


                                                                    probably it today
                                                                    No dice
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                                                                    • Easy-Rider 66
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 02-14-12
                                                                      • 36109

                                                                      #4759
                                                                      risked $385/returned $380.30
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23457

                                                                        #4760
                                                                        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                                        risked $385/returned $380.30
                                                                        87 horses played
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