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  • Easy-Rider 66
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    • 02-14-12
    • 36109

    #4446
    Originally posted by JBEX
    royal ascot.. thursday

    go ahead ...grade them


    R1 norfolk stakes g2

    #5 land force (12-1)



    debuts in april and is 3rd by 2.75 lengths¹...

    2nd start 29 days² later breaks maiden..

    back in 14 days stakes race 3rd by 2.5 lengths¹..

    back in 26 days²

    cost 413k and is by probably the hottest first year sire there is whose a son of the overall hottest sire there is scat daddy




    R2 hampton court stakes g3

    #5 key victory (4-1) 4W


    breaks maiden first out at newmarket @ 7f in a 14 horse field ...comes back as a 3yo to win a stakes race at 10f which is pretty impressive for 2nd career start.. tries g1 horses at 10.5f in france and finishes
    8th by 3+ lengths in a 16 horse field which is not a horrible performance...back at 10f vs g3 horses which to me is a perfect spot . out of a dubawi mare (top 2 or 3 most expensive stallion) so might have something to do with his ability



    R3 ribbledale stakes g2

    #8 sarrochi (30-1) 1WP

    galileo ot of an oasis dream mare so big pedigree.. broke maiden first out at 7f in a 16 horse field in ireland.. first attempt as a 3yo in a g3 stakes not good but it was on a heavy track so going to excuse it..they thought enough of her to move forward to a g1 in spite of the bad effort last out but again did nothing.. drops back to a G3 @ 10f in his last start and finishes a decent 4th.. the fact they are going to try a G2 with her off what she's done and it's at 12f intrigues me with her pedigree






    R4 gold cup g1

    #6 vazirabad (9-2)


    R5 britania stakes

    #8 james cook (20-1) 1WP



    R6 king george v handicap

    #13 cassini (12-1) 1WP
    R1 and 4 Placed Pays $7.20
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    • Easy-Rider 66
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-14-12
      • 36109

      #4447
      Risked $159/Returned $58.70
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23452

        #4448
        3rd at belmont yesterday

        top 4 odds..

        9.40 winner
        12.2-1(2nd
        2.35-1(3rd
        3-1 (4th

        $440 triple.. should have paid $216
        $1380 super.. should have paid $345

        it's not a denomination mistake.. I've got that right
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        • mrginandtonic
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-11-09
          • 7734

          #4449
          Originally posted by JBEX
          3rd at belmont yesterday

          top 4 odds..

          9.40 winner
          12.2-1(2nd
          2.35-1(3rd
          3-1 (4th

          $440 triple.. should have paid $216
          $1380 super.. should have paid $345

          it's not a denomination mistake.. I've got that right
          I don’t get it JBex, what is your point?
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36109

            #4450
            Originally posted by JBEX
            3rd at belmont yesterday

            top 4 odds..

            9.40 winner
            12.2-1(2nd
            2.35-1(3rd
            3-1 (4th

            $440 triple.. should have paid $216
            $1380 super.. should have paid $345

            it's not a denomination mistake.. I've got that right
            I get your drift JBEX. But you have to hit them to make it relevant. Otherwise you are just pissing in the wind.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23452

              #4451
              Originally posted by mrginandtonic
              I don’t get it JBex, what is your point?
              the point is the public bets triples and superfectas VERY
              inefficiently.. everybody always complains (and rightly so)
              about the take in this game.. these bets over the long haul pay enormously more than they should.. to get double or triple the amount you're supposed to with these bets with the right odds configuration is a regular occurrence.. in this case the super paid quadruple what it should have.. handicapping takes a back seat to bet structuring but if you have an opinion on a good price horse use that one
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23452

                #4452
                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                I get your drift JBEX. But you have to hit them to make it relevant. Otherwise you are just pissing in the wind.
                I may come back and try it but whether I do or not the figure above are real and I've witnessed things like this over a very long period of time.. it's a major shift in how to do things and you really have to commit to it totally.. going to consider a thread on it but it's tougher to do in advance vs closer to post
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23452

                  #4453
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  3rd at belmont yesterday

                  top 4 odds..

                  9.40 winner
                  12.2-1(2nd
                  2.35-1(3rd
                  3-1 (4th

                  $440 triple.. should have paid $216
                  $1380 super.. should have paid $345

                  it's not a denomination mistake.. I've got that right
                  another point about this particular top 4 is you basically surrounded a reasonable longshot (12-1) with 3 horses 7-2 and under.. it's not like a reach combination.. play in the 3rd slot also with the same horses also.. again this is not about handicapping but bet structuring.. when you hit you want to get a lot more than you should and the odds is a good way of determining that at least imo
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23452

                    #4454
                    wow didn't realize the 2 was a half to arrogate.. guess that explains the 279 dam production index.. 2 or 3 decent number for that lol
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23452

                      #4455
                      added R5 santa anita post 4445
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                      • JBEX
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23452

                        #4456
                        added R8 post 4445
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                        • Easy-Rider 66
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-14-12
                          • 36109

                          #4457
                          Originally posted by JBEX
                          belmont


                          R4 #3 susan b anthony (9-2) 3WP
                          R9 #6 tammany giant (12-1)

                          santa anita

                          R5

                          #2 celturian (10-1) 3W
                          #3 jet set ruler (6-1) 2W


                          R8

                          #5 true testament (2-1) 6W
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                          • JBEX
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23452

                            #4458
                            the end
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                            • Easy-Rider 66
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-14-12
                              • 36109

                              #4459
                              Originally posted by JBEX
                              the end
                              Looks like you are calling it off. I guess the end of the Thread? It was a good ride. Have a feeling you will be back. GL.
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                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-14-12
                                • 36109

                                #4460
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                belmont


                                R4 #3 susan b anthony (9-2) 3WP
                                R9 #6 tammany giant (12-1)

                                santa anita

                                R5

                                #2 celturian (10-1) 3W
                                #3 jet set ruler (6-1) 2W


                                R8

                                #5 true testament (2-1) 6W
                                SA R8 scratch Others no good.
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                                • Easy-Rider 66
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-14-12
                                  • 36109

                                  #4461
                                  Risked $174/Returned $58.70 Starting off cold JBEX. But if you come back way too early in the process to draw any conclusions. I remember the contest you played with Hart and I. Think you started off slow there and ended at 90% ROI. Give it some thought. You are due.
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                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 02-14-12
                                    • 36109

                                    #4462
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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23452

                                      #4463
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                                      • Easy-Rider 66
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 02-14-12
                                        • 36109

                                        #4464
                                        GL.
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23452

                                          #4465
                                          it'd get lost in your thread easy (rider) but not here


                                          G
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23452

                                            #4466
                                            indiana grand... saturday


                                            R8 Indiana oaks


                                            #3 harbor lights (6-1)



                                            R9 indiana derby


                                            #7 title ready (12-1)

                                            why the morning linesmaker thinks this horse will be 12-1is a mystery to me



                                            R10 msw indiana breds


                                            #9 coins of gold (20-1)

                                            first time starter and this is another ridiculous morning line.. 6-1 imo ( I understand that this is what he thinks she will go off at and not what he thinks she should be)
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23452

                                              #4467
                                              belmont


                                              R4 #2 that's smart (6-1)

                                              trainer poor over sizeable sample 1st turf and debut..but that should help price along with slow works..might not be well meant but with the way above average pedigree (smart strike out of a stakes winning bernardinI mare) maybe can overcome the other negatives..like that the breeders are the owners vs sold privately as at least there's not the possibility he was dealt cheaply to another party
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23452

                                                #4468
                                                just gonna resume here.. other way a pita and accomplishes little


                                                keeneland


                                                R1 #1 time warp (7-2)
                                                R3 #4 fra mauro (10-1)
                                                R4 ex box 7 8 11
                                                R7 #6 pakhet (8-1)
                                                R8 #7 teletap (4-1)
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23452

                                                  #4469
                                                  keeneland

                                                  R1 #1 cassidy avenue (12-1)
                                                  R4 #10 coexistence (7-2)
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                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-14-12
                                                    • 36109

                                                    #4470
                                                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                    Looks like you are calling it off. I guess the end of the Thread? It was a good ride. Have a feeling you will be back. GL.
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23452

                                                      #4471
                                                      all the excursions out of this thread never last and make things more difficult..as they say kiss
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                                                      • JBEX
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23452

                                                        #4472
                                                        keeneland

                                                        R2 #11 interlaken (10-1)
                                                        R4 #3 vomba (8-1)


                                                        R6 #10 beautiful ballad (10-1)


                                                        another fts who cost a bunch relative to her pedigree and this one by one of the best first out sires there is.. working solidly up to this race

                                                        R10 #1 b dubya (20-1)

                                                        no apparent excuse in his last at churchill but I remember this below the radar trainer hit with a bomb already at this short meet using same jockey.. the allowance races at thistledown around 2 turns match up nicely with the 7 furlong clm 20k beaten claimers here


                                                        belmont

                                                        R2 #4 back of the watch (8-1)
                                                        R6 #6 fortin hill (2-1)

                                                        chad has 2 fts in here (other #3) and both are bred off the charts.. but mine cost an absolute fortune relative to his nothing special sire and broodmare info..realize they'll be little value here but going to put that aside here and just play the angle


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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23452

                                                          #4473
                                                          added kee 4 and bel 2
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                                                          • JBEX
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23452

                                                            #4474
                                                            added bel 6
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23452

                                                              #4475
                                                              finished kee
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23452

                                                                #4476
                                                                remington park

                                                                R9 #7 way out west (20-1) #4 misdeed (5-1)
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23452

                                                                  #4477
                                                                  keeneland

                                                                  R7 #4 hawaiian noises (8-1)
                                                                  banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23452

                                                                    #4478
                                                                    belmont

                                                                    R5 #4 power source (5-1)
                                                                    R9 #1 let's dance some mo (8-1) #5 burkey's babe (10-1)
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23452

                                                                      #4479
                                                                      finished bel
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23452

                                                                        #4480
                                                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                        belmont

                                                                        R5 #4 power source (5-1)
                                                                        R9 #1 let's dance some mo (8-1) #5 burkey's babe (10-1)
                                                                        taken off the turf 45 min prior to post time ..#1 was scratched.. other ran 3rd

                                                                        since i'm mentioning this

                                                                        R5 winner $16.20
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