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**DublinMeUp** · 07-15-12, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by The Bet Master

Faber is going to get smashed.

Remember the TUF episode where Dana announced it, Faber looked like he shit himself lol

**Bradbatross** · 07-15-12, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by The Bet Master

Faber is going to get smashed.

Faber's going to be too fast for Barao, and Baraos chin is questionable. I wouldn't be surprised if he got TKOd but I think it'll probably be an easy UD win for Faber.

**The Bet Master** · 07-16-12, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Faber's going to be too fast for Barao, and Baraos chin is questionable. I wouldn't be surprised if he got TKOd but I think it'll probably be an easy UD win for Faber.

Are you seriously saying a guy that has never had a tko loss has a questionable chin? Even if that was true and it in no way is, Faber is not a guy who would expose that. Faber is a guy who wants to take you to the ground and submit you, unfortunately for him Barao has great TDD and if he somehow gets him down (I doubt it) Barao also possesses a good ground game. Barao has far superior striking and the kicks he is going to throw are going to give Faber fits. Put it all together and you have a comfortable Barao win. Will he finish it? Maybe, but i see a 5 round unanimous decision 49-46. I also think the line is a joke and a lot of it has to do with Faber being far more known to the public. Should be around -240.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by The Bet Master

Are you seriously saying a guy that has never had a tko loss has a questionable chin? Even if that was true and it in no way is, Faber is not a guy who would expose that. Faber is a guy who wants to take you to the ground and submit you, unfortunately for him Barao has great TDD and if he somehow gets him down (I doubt it) Barao also possesses a good ground game. Barao has far superior striking and the kicks he is going to throw are going to give Faber fits. Put it all together and you have a comfortable Barao win. Will he finish it? Maybe, but i see a 5 round unanimous decision 49-46. I also think the line is a joke and a lot of it has to do with Faber being far more known to the public. Should be around -240.

The lines gonna close with Faber around even. Cole Escovedo rocked Barao. Faber is the better striker and wrestler. Wherever the fight goes Faber has the advantage.

**gabe** · 07-16-12, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Gabe, who do you have for 149?
Personally I have Faber, Lombard, Ebersole and maybe Kongo.

Out of those 4, I'm with you on Lombard and Ebersole.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Out of those 4, I'm with you on Lombard and Ebersole.

Yea, kongo isn't the smartest fighter but he has enough skill to beat Jordan and Barao is extremely over rated. After rewatching his fights I think faber will be able to pick up an easy decision. Right now I have a parlay with Lombard and Faber at +245 and when Baraos' odds get better I'll get him in a parlay with Lombard and Ebersole.

**gabe** · 07-16-12, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Yea, kongo isn't the smartest fighter but he has enough skill to beat Jordan and Barao is extremely over rated. After rewatching his fights I think faber will be able to pick up an easy decision. Right now I have a parlay with Lombard and Faber at +245 and when Baraos' odds get better I'll get him in a parlay with Lombard and Ebersole.

Barao is not over rated at all and Kongo is not more skilled than Jordan. If anything Barao had been really underrated until recently.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Barao is not over rated at all and Kongo is not more skilled than Jordan. If anything Barao had been really underrated until recently.

And now he's being extremely over rated in this fight. Faber is simply the better fight in every aspect of the sport. If Barao wants to throw kicks he's going to be taken down. Kongo's on another level than Jordan.

**The Bet Master** · 07-16-12, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

The lines gonna close with Faber around even. Cole Escovedo rocked Barao. Faber is the better striker and wrestler. Wherever the fight goes Faber has the advantage.

If you seriously think Faber is a better striker review the film or check your eyes. Barao is the far superior striker. Faber can win if he can push Barao to the cage or take him down but i don't see that happening. If this is a stand up fight Faber will be in huge trouble.

**TheCalculator** · 07-16-12, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

And now he's being extremely over rated in this fight. Faber is simply the better fight in every aspect of the sport. If Barao wants to throw kicks he's going to be taken down. Kongo's on another level than Jordan.

Wow -- you're in for a shock.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

Wow -- you're in for a shock.

I don't think so, I've watched all of Barao's fights and all of Fabers fights, it's not hard to tell who has the advantage.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-16-12, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

...If Barao wants to throw kicks he's going to be taken down...

So you think an exceptional striker with a game-plan centered around tenderizing Faber's leg would fail eh?

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

So you think an exceptional striker with a game-plan centered around tenderizing Faber's leg would fail eh?

Yea....?

**gabe** · 07-16-12, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Yea....?

Try watching Faber vs Aldo, bud.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-16-12, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Yea....?

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by gabe

Try watching Faber vs Aldo, bud.

LOL, I hope you're not basing you're prediction on that fight. This match up is completely different.

**The Bet Master** · 07-16-12, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

LOL, I hope you're not basing you're prediction on that fight. This match up is completely different.

Not really. Very similar styles.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by The Bet Master

Not really. Very similar styles.

Similar, except Aldo is 10 times better than Barao. Looks like you guys are buying into the Barao hype, I wouldnt put him in too many parlays if I were you. I'll end this with saying let's just wait and see what happens.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-16-12, 01:44 AM

For the record, I'm leaning Faber for value at the current line... still some tape to review if I'm even gonna play this one...

And I do think just capping this fight as a Faber vs Aldo redux is a bit lazy just because Pegado is Aldo's teammate at Nova Uniao...

But that bit about Faber taking down Pegado if he uses leg kicks just seems a bit zany given the precedent that has been set stylistically. Haven't been studying Faber's fights with a microscope so maybe I missed him changing his stance (in which he frequently just leaves his lead leg out there with a bulls eye on it).

I do feel people are getting a bit carried away in thinking Pegado is the 2nd coming of Aldo though.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:47 AM

Faber is one of the smartest fighters in the sport and he never ceases to improve his game. To think that he's just gonna let Barao destroy his leg like Aldo did doesn't make very much sense. Personally I'm not gonna put too much money on this fight but Fabers value right now is amazing.

**The Bet Master** · 07-16-12, 01:52 AM

I agree it shouldn't be a fight where you would put a lot of money on it. I just can't see how you can say Faber has better standup or question Baraos chin.

**Vaughany** · 07-16-12, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by DublinMeUp

Remember the TUF episode where Dana announced it, Faber looked like he shit himself lol

ha yeah, probably bought back bad memories of the Aldo fight! He's gone from facing Cruz who he didnt have to worry about getting knocked out by to suddenly facing a guy tht dropped and finished Brad Picket in Picket's own back yard

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by The Bet Master

I agree it shouldn't be a fight where you would put a lot of money on it. I just can't see how you can say Faber has better standup or question Baraos chin.

Barao has been hurt twice, Fabre has been hurt too. I just think Faber has more to work with in order to win the decision.

**The Bet Master** · 07-16-12, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by Bradbatross

Barao has been hurt twice, Fabre has been hurt too. I just think Faber has more to work with in order to win the decision.

Ok that's your opinion. If everyone had the same opinion the world and this forum would be boring. I think the 1st round will be very telling to see if Faber can do what everyone else fails at in trying to take Barao down. If he can't, watch out.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 02:02 AM

What do you guys think about Kongo vs Jordan and Delorme vs Rivera. Personally I think Rivera is a good bet and I think the safest bet on the card is Ebersole.

**GunShard** · 07-16-12, 02:17 AM

During this week, I'm going to make a thread on why I'm betting on Barao.

**gabe** · 07-16-12, 02:35 AM

I don't think Barao is the 2nd Aldo, but they do possess some similarities, i.e. solid leg kicks, movement, TDD... I recall being the only member on this forum saying Barao would be able to stuff Scott Jorgensen's takedowns... I think he'll be able to stuff Faber's, too. If Faber wins this fight, I think it will be by close decision on the feet. He needs to have a solid gameplan where he gets in and out with good combinations and works his jab. I just think this is Barao's fight to lose. Both these guys need to fight a smart fight, but Barao is the more skilled and more talented fighter. I feel his BJJ is better than Aldo's. He could probably finish this fight from his guard. I can't recall seeing Barao fight from his guard, I wonder how active he is re: submission attempts and strikes.

**Vaughany** · 07-16-12, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by GunShard

During this week, I'm going to make a thread on why I'm betting on Barao.

Is this the reason!...

**Vaughany** · 07-16-12, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by gabe

I don't think Barao is the 2nd Aldo, but they do possess some similarities, i.e. solid leg kicks, movement, TDD... I recall being the only member on this forum saying Barao would be able to stuff Scott Jorgensen's takedowns... I think he'll be able to stuff Faber's, too. If Faber wins this fight, I think it will be by close decision on the feet. He needs to have a solid gameplan where he gets in and out with good combinations and works his jab. I just think this is Barao's fight to lose. Both these guys need to fight a smart fight, but Barao is the more skilled and more talented fighter. I feel his BJJ is better than Aldo's. He could probably finish this fight from his guard. I can't recall seeing Barao fight from his guard, I wonder how active he is re: submission attempts and strikes.

Highly doubt you'll find it anywhere but the Barao vs Leone fight from his WEC debut shows how good Barao's grapplin game is. Leone was doin very well in tht fight (and arguably winning). He took Barao down in first half and was doing ok in the striking. Then in the third he took Barao down again and Barao absolutely tooled him on the ground. I think he went for a heelhook and used tht to reverse position and end up on top then latched on to an armbar and Leone tapped out. Obviously Faber is a complete different level to Leone but shows tht Barao isnt a "duck out of water" when/if it comes to him being on his back.

**Bradbatross** · 07-16-12, 03:12 AM

I wouldn't say Barao is more skilled than Faber.

**DublinMeUp** · 07-16-12, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Is this the reason!...

He's a beast, Faber doesn't stand a chance

**DublinMeUp** · 07-16-12, 04:27 AM

**PunisherIND** · 07-16-12, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by DublinMeUp

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Lmao!

**Vaughany** · 07-16-12, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by DublinMeUp

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haha very good, he was thinkin Menjivar was gonna step out thn was like...

**GunShard** · 07-16-12, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Is this the reason!...

I'm going to put both Barao and Faber's highlight video in my argument. Just like my previous Dos Santos vs Velasquez prediction thread.

Vaughany, I'll keep doing threads like that until I lose. Let's see how many predictions I can get correctly in a row. If I lose once, then I'm not allowed to make threads like that anymore.