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  • gabe
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-12-11
    • 7405

    #176


    This is a picture of him from high school. Still envious?
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    • proposition joe
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-06-11
      • 532

      #177
      Originally posted by gabe
      Why hate the Brennster?

      If you're simply betting on a guy 'cos you hate/are fading his opponent, you shouldn't bet so big.

      When I do that, I don't risk more than $50. (on a big dog)
      I genuinely thought that there was value on Roberts and in hindsight I feel like I was right. I obviously wouldn't make the same play again knowing the outcome but Roberts came close enough to finishing the fight to justify a play at +255. The size of the bet (too large) was the only issue that I have with my decision.
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      • proposition joe
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-06-11
        • 532

        #178
        The only plays from UFC on FX 1 that I regret are Shalorus and Morecraft.
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        • proposition joe
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-06-11
          • 532

          #179
          1/28/12- UFC On Fox 2

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          Dustin Jacoby (+160) to risk 300
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          • gabe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-12-11
            • 7405

            #180
            I lean Camozzi but GL
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            • proposition joe
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-06-11
              • 532

              #181
              UFC on FX 2

              Ian McCall (+240) to risk 1000
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              • proposition joe
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-06-11
                • 532

                #182
                Originally posted by gabe
                I lean Camozzi but GL
                thanks bud.
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                • illmatick
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 5456

                  #183
                  Tempted to back McCall as well, probably will if the line breaks +260.
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                  • gabe
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-12-11
                    • 7405

                    #184
                    I'm with you on McCall. That line is a steal.
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                    • proposition joe
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-06-11
                      • 532

                      #185
                      UFC on Fox 2 Results: + $1200

                      Thread totals = + 1158.75

                      Still recovering from the horrible UFC on FX loss. I hope to be back to where I was within the next 6 events.
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                      • proposition joe
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-06-11
                        • 532

                        #186
                        2/4/12 - UFC 143

                        Roy Nelson (-110) to win 1000

                        Scotty Jorgenson (+205) to risk 200

                        Clifford Starks (+200) to risk 100
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                        • proposition joe
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-06-11
                          • 532

                          #187
                          Lowering my standard small value (within 40-50 pts of my own line) and medium value(within 60-80) from 200 to 100 and from 300/400/500 to 200/300/400 respectively while keeping my larger bet values the same.
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                          • proposition joe
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-06-11
                            • 532

                            #188
                            Originally posted by proposition joe
                            UFC on FX 2

                            Ian McCall (+240) to risk 1000
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                            That Japanese Guy (+600) to risk 200
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                            • proposition joe
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-06-11
                              • 532

                              #189
                              6/2/12 - Silva vs Sonnen II

                              Anderson Silva (-235) to win 3000

                              Vitor Belfort (-335) to win 1000


                              Will arb Silva into a better price once Sonnen reaches +275 range, which is something that I expect.
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                              • PunisherIND
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-24-11
                                • 4983

                                #190
                                Originally posted by proposition joe
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                                That Japanese Guy (+600) to risk 200
                                haha
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                                • PunisherIND
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-24-11
                                  • 4983

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by proposition joe
                                  6/2/12 - Silva vs Sonnen II

                                  Anderson Silva (-235) to win 3000

                                  Vitor Belfort (-335) to win 1000


                                  Will arb Silva into a better price once Sonnen reaches +275 range, which is something that I expect.
                                  love the anderson silva line. i need a bookmaker account. id be happy to take him at -300 or better.

                                  and im with you on belfort. got him at -265 on bodog.
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                                  • Beelzebubzy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-06-11
                                    • 6995

                                    #192
                                    I'm with you on belfort
                                    He is slowing down but unlike his hand speed to over come those wild exchanges
                                    2u -335
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                                    • proposition joe
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-06-11
                                      • 532

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by proposition joe
                                      2/4/12 - UFC 143

                                      Roy Nelson (-110) to win 1000

                                      Scotty Jorgenson (+205) to risk 200

                                      Clifford Starks (+200) to risk 100

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                                      Michael Kuiper (+200) to risk 200
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                                      • gabe
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-12-11
                                        • 7405

                                        #194
                                        hell yeah, Mikey K, baby!
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                                        • proposition joe
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-06-11
                                          • 532

                                          #195
                                          Cold streak continues. My gambling account is doing fine though (I chased on Condit, even though I favored Diaz. My logic was that rather than getting +157 on Condit winning, I was getting +157 on there being at least one upset on the card. Terrible logic and I'm a lucky bastard!) Obviously I won't count that towards my total or even consider it a win in my mind. I feel pretty dumb about the Nelson bet particularly. I obviously didn't do my proper homework on Werdum.

                                          UFC 145

                                          Michael McDonald (+155) to risk 2000
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                                          • proposition joe
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-06-11
                                            • 532

                                            #196
                                            Forgot to post this way back

                                            UFC on Fuel 1

                                            Jake Ellenberger (-245) to win 1000
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                                            • Vitooch
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-26-11
                                              • 3470

                                              #197
                                              You will get back on track with this play. GL
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                                              • Beelzebubzy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-06-11
                                                • 6995

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                Cold streak continues. My gambling account is doing fine though (I chased on Condit, even though I favored Diaz. My logic was that rather than getting +157 on Condit winning, I was getting +157 on there being at least one upset on the card. Terrible logic and I'm a lucky bastard!) Obviously I won't count that towards my total or even consider it a win in my mind. I feel pretty dumb about the Nelson bet particularly. I obviously didn't do my proper homework on Werdum.

                                                UFC 145

                                                Michael McDonald (+155) to risk 2000
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                                                • proposition joe
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-06-11
                                                  • 532

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                  Forgot to post this way back

                                                  UFC on Fuel 1

                                                  Jake Ellenberger (-245) to win 1000

                                                  Note: I will be arbing out of this bet if Diego hits +315 or better
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                                                  • proposition joe
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-06-11
                                                    • 532

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                    You will get back on track with this play. GL

                                                    Thanks bud.
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                                                    • Rubber Guard
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-22-11
                                                      • 1550

                                                      #201
                                                      I like most of these plays. But I don't understand the stabs at the dogs in the new 125lb division.

                                                      Joe B and Mighty Mouse have both hung in there with the best at 135lbs. They will be beasts at 125lbs. McCall really isn't very good, I don't see where he will be better than Might Mouse? Johnson will be strong for this division.

                                                      And as for THAT Japanese Guy. I don't know much about him either. But Japanese "stars" are great fade material. Even the good ones have sucked in the U.S. This guys record doesn't look all that impressive and he is 35 years old. Benividez is a top 3 135 ponder. He will smash this guy (not like it is going out on a limb. ) I understand taking a stab at those high numbers, but in the end I just see it as throwing away money. Neither guy has any advantage in their fights. They put Johnson and Joe B on opposite sides so they could have them both fight for the 1st title, because they are head and shoulders the best 125ers right now in such a young division.

                                                      Good Luck though. I love the Silva, Belfort, and Ellenberger plays. You got Ellenberger at a good price.
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                                                      • proposition joe
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-06-11
                                                        • 532

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
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                                                        • proposition joe
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-06-11
                                                          • 532

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                                                          I like most of these plays. But I don't understand the stabs at the dogs in the new 125lb division.

                                                          Joe B and Mighty Mouse have both hung in there with the best at 135lbs. They will be beasts at 125lbs. McCall really isn't very good, I don't see where he will be better than Might Mouse? Johnson will be strong for this division.

                                                          And as for THAT Japanese Guy. I don't know much about him either. But Japanese "stars" are great fade material. Even the good ones have sucked in the U.S. This guys record doesn't look all that impressive and he is 35 years old. Benividez is a top 3 135 ponder. He will smash this guy (not like it is going out on a limb. ) I understand taking a stab at those high numbers, but in the end I just see it as throwing away money. Neither guy has any advantage in their fights. They put Johnson and Joe B on opposite sides so they could have them both fight for the 1st title, because they are head and shoulders the best 125ers right now in such a young division.

                                                          Good Luck though. I love the Silva, Belfort, and Ellenberger plays. You got Ellenberger at a good price.

                                                          Thanks

                                                          I see McCall as a huge value play. I favor him over Mighty Mouse for several reasons and I completely disagree with him not being "very good". I give the wrestling advantage to McCall as well as toughness and tenacity. Mighty Mouse is the one whom I feel has an overinflated stock right now.

                                                          Plus, he paints his fingernails and acts like a bisexual rock star. SWAG.

                                                          Joey Benz should run the division but I still feel there is value at +600.
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                                                          • Rubber Guard
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-22-11
                                                            • 1550

                                                            #204
                                                            Maybe I am looking too far at level of competition. But a guy lke McCall will look really good in Tachi Palace fights. Johnson has beat guys like Torres. And although beat easy by Cruz, he did some good things. That is a top P4P fighter he lost too. Maybe I am looking too far into opponents, but I think McCall hasn't fought half as good of competition as Johnson.

                                                            At 5'3 and 5'4 Johnson and Joe B could have found an organization to fight at 125lbs. Instead they chose the UFC to face the best guys in a weight class where they had no business being in. They literally were the 2 smallest guys in the UFC, yet ended up as top 3 guys vs. the best 135 lbers in the world. I think moving to the correct weight class will even bring out a better version of these guys.

                                                            Again, I could be looking too far into opponents. I respect what they accomplished facing the best 135ers. I guess we will see what happens. Perhaps there is value because the public doesn't know their opponents.
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                                                            • proposition joe
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 10-06-11
                                                              • 532

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                                                              Maybe I am looking too far at level of competition. But a guy lke McCall will look really good in Tachi Palace fights. Johnson has beat guys like Torres. And although beat easy by Cruz, he did some good things. That is a top P4P fighter he lost too. Maybe I am looking too far into opponents, but I think McCall hasn't fought half as good of competition as Johnson.

                                                              At 5'3 and 5'4 Johnson and Joe B could have found an organization to fight at 125lbs. Instead they chose the UFC to face the best guys in a weight class where they had no business being in. They literally were the 2 smallest guys in the UFC, yet ended up as top 3 guys vs. the best 135 lbers in the world. I think moving to the correct weight class will even bring out a better version of these guys.

                                                              Again, I could be looking too far into opponents. I respect what they accomplished facing the best 135ers. I guess we will see what happens. Perhaps there is value because the public doesn't know their opponents.
                                                              McCall also fought Cruz and did better than Johnson
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                                                              • proposition joe
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-06-11
                                                                • 532

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                                Forgot to post this way back

                                                                UFC on Fuel 1

                                                                Jake Ellenberger (-245) to win 1000
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                                                                Ronny Markes (+110) to risk 100
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                                                                • proposition joe
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 10-06-11
                                                                  • 532

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Back on track after UFC on Fuel

                                                                  UFC 144

                                                                  Steve Cantwell (+245) to risk 500

                                                                  Hatsu Hioki (-170) to win 300

                                                                  Vaughan Lee (+275) to risk 200

                                                                  Tamura (+200) to risk 100
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                                                                  • gabe
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                                    • 7405

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                                    Back on track after UFC on Fuel

                                                                    UFC 144

                                                                    Steve Cantwell (+245) to risk 500

                                                                    Hatsu Hioki (-170) to win 300

                                                                    Vaughan Lee (+275) to risk 200

                                                                    Tamura (+200) to risk 100
                                                                    Risking 500 on Cantwell against Fukuda?! You must know something I don't!
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                                                                    • proposition joe
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 10-06-11
                                                                      • 532

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                                      Risking 500 on Cantwell against Fukuda?! You must know something I don't!
                                                                      Cantwell really only has problems with guys who can outstrike him. I don't see Fukuda as one of those guys. I had Massenzio as a dog vs Cantwell and the first round had me really worried. Cantwell looked great imo. He seemed to gas and became very hittable in the last two rounds. Maybe a second go @ 185 will help his gas tank. Even if not, I don't think that Fukuda will have the hands to really cause problems for Cantwell. His wrestling will be superior but Cantwell has very good submissions and might even have a bigger advantage there than he does on the feet.
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                                                                      • gabe
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-12-11
                                                                        • 7405

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                                        Cantwell really only has problems with guys who can outstrike him. I don't see Fukuda as one of those guys. I had Massenzio as a dog vs Cantwell and the first round had me really worried. Cantwell looked great imo. He seemed to gas and became very hittable in the last two rounds. Maybe a second go @ 185 will help his gas tank. Even if not, I don't think that Fukuda will have the hands to really cause problems for Cantwell. His wrestling will be superior but Cantwell has very good submissions and might even have a bigger advantage there than he does on the feet.
                                                                        Hm... I'm almost certain Fukuda won't lose. I will be really shocked.
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