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  • jin2daj
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-01-09
    • 816

    #281
    mirandaaaaaa
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    • Educ8d Degener8
      SBR MVP
      • 01-12-10
      • 3177

      #282
      Ill,

      There's footage of Miranda and Marcelo at the ADCC in 2007 online. Will try to review asap. The way I see this fight... After re-watching Miranda and Gerald Harris yesterday, I was reminded of how much of an edge MM will have in the stand up against Maia -- MM is dynamic with his shizz. I agree with you in that he should just work the stand up in this one and pick Demian apart. He's known as a decorated Brazilian wrestler, but I hope to God he doesn't decide to flaunt those credentials against Demian Maia...

      And even if MM lands one of those high kicks to stun Maia or knocks him down with a punch, I can't imagine he'll jump into Maia's guard. So I'm leaning toward MM by decision, with the potential for a KO standing. (ongoing crazy bad judging in decisions does leave some minor concern though)

      Only way for Maia to win is to get it to the mat -- And that's why I need to see Miranda's ground defense before I add to my current wager. And even at that, MM should make it as difficult as he possibly can to prevent Maia from getting it down; ie, use his length and reach to keep distance. (Although those long a$$ limbs of Miranda do give something for Maia to grab a hold of)

      One final thing I need to review tape of is Maia's takedowns. Only one I can vividly recall is that sweet leg trip he used on Sonnen. But if MM keeps his distance, that won't happen. So Maia would have to (1) pull guard, (2) catch a MM leg kick, or (3) shoot. So anyone who wants to freshen my memory regarding Maia's takedown skills (I'm particularly interested in whether or not he has ever shown good shooting ability), please do so.

      BOL to all of you...
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      • illmatick
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-05-09
        • 5456

        #283
        have you seen the article on him at mmajunkie EDU?

        "While Miranda is still making his way in the UFC, the 6-foot-3 Brazilian pieced together an impressive amateur wrestling career, and his loss in the UFC was the first as a mixed martial artist. And while early career wins over eventual UFC fighters Rick Story and Joe Vedepo helped prepare Miranda for the big time, he says his training with Silva and former light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida has been invaulable"

        "Miranda recently returned home to Washington after spending time at the famed Black House camp in Los Angeles where he did his best Chael Sonnen impersonation in order to help Silva prep for their UFC 117 title fight."

        wish I had footage to the fight that he won against Rick Story, either way, that's one hell of a win against an awesome wrestler like story, I'm determined now to find that fight footage.

        just saw the Miranda by decision prop at +452, definitely agree with your assessment of the play, probably end up adding a bit on that as well



        for anyone that cares, my write-up is now up on SBR's homepage
        Last edited by illmatick; 08-26-10, 05:36 AM.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #284
          Originally posted by illmatick
          have you seen the article on him at mmajunkie EDU?

          "While Miranda is still making his way in the UFC, the 6-foot-3 Brazilian pieced together an impressive amateur wrestling career, and his loss in the UFC was the first as a mixed martial artist. And while early career wins over eventual UFC fighters Rick Story and Joe Vedepo helped prepare Miranda for the big time, he says his training with Silva and former light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida has been invaulable"

          "Miranda recently returned home to Washington after spending time at the famed Black House camp in Los Angeles where he did his best Chael Sonnen impersonation in order to help Silva prep for their UFC 117 title fight."

          wish I had footage to the fight that he won against Rick Story, either way, that's one hell of a win against an awesome wrestler like story, I'm determined now to find that fight footage.

          just saw the Miranda by decision prop at +452, definitely agree with your assessment of the play, probably end up adding a bit on that as well



          for anyone that cares, my write-up is now up on SBR's homepage
          Good write up bro...agree with all three predictions. Paddypower have got Miranda by decision at +500 so think I will take advantage of that if I get some money back from Bellator bets tonight.
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          • illmatick
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-05-09
            • 5456

            #285
            thanks Vaughnay, I really appreciate it

            jesus, paddypower just might be surpassing 5dimes as the premiere mma book, seems like they're even putting out their props a lot faster, I would kill to have gotten Randy at +200 to win in the first round

            I wanted to use either randy by sub or randy in round 1 as my prediction for the article but 5dimes still hasn't released those lines
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #286
              Originally posted by illmatick
              thanks Vaughnay, I really appreciate it

              jesus, paddypower just might be surpassing 5dimes as the premiere mma book, seems like they're even putting out their props a lot faster, I would kill to have gotten Randy at +200 to win in the first round

              I wanted to use either randy by sub or randy in round 1 as my prediction for the article but 5dimes still hasn't released those lines
              Yee thing is Paddypower have got tighter on their prop bets recently, a few months ago ther odds wer ridiculously good...like Bisping beating Dan Miller by decision at 5/1! Still tho they pretty much always release prop bets on the Tuesday before the event which helps as I keep checking through the day thn pound the odds early! Regretting not puttin more than a unit on Couture in Rnd 1 at +200 wen it first came out...it's now gone down to 10/11! But yee I think Paddypower does have the best prop bets around...they had Couture by sub at 2/1, its now gone down to 7/4 and Couture by TKO/KO is 10/11, Toney by KO at 6/1. Be interesting to see how these compare to 5dimes wen they eventually make the prop bets available.
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              • Eccocide
                SBR MVP
                • 01-12-09
                • 2126

                #287
                Originally posted by illmatick
                for anyone that cares, my write-up is now up on SBR's homepage
                Nice write-up bud. I agree with most of what you wrote other than the Penn/Edgar fight. I think it will be a mistake for Edgar to come out with the same gameplan as the previous fight - Penn is a smart guy and I think he realized in the last fight that Edgar never really hurt him. I think Penn is going to be super aggressive in this fight especially as the fight moves into the second round. Edgar is quick, but I think Penn wont be scared to come forward and cut off the angles quickly knowing that he doesn't have to fear Edgar's power. I think he will do a much better job at changing levels and making Edgar think about what he's about to do next, keeping Edgar more static and flatfooted. All of that said, I dont see any value in Penn's line so I wont be betting on the fight. Hopefully Im wrong and you cash your ticket lol.
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                • illmatick
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 5456

                  #288
                  appreciate it ecco, I don't even really disagree with most of that, it's sick how many times I've changed my position on who will win the rematch. either way I see a small amount of value in the decision prop

                  just for the record, ..the current UFC article on the front page isn't mine, who is Neville Hope?
                  Last edited by illmatick; 08-27-10, 06:25 AM.
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                  • pat venditto
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-07-07
                    • 14347

                    #289
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                    • illmatick
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 5456

                      #290
                      what the hell you laughing at patty boy, don't tell me you're going all in on Toney?

                      are you ever going to invite me into your home?
                      Last edited by illmatick; 08-27-10, 06:09 AM.
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                      • illmatick
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 5456

                        #291
                        solid prediction video right here

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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #292
                          Originally posted by illmatick
                          solid prediction video right here

                          ha Im going with Maynard biiiiiiitch! How many lines did tht dude do before tht! Crazy but entertaining!
                          Last edited by Vaughany; 08-27-10, 03:44 PM.
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                          • illmatick
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 5456

                            #293
                            betting recap for tomorrow, added a bit on on Miranda

                            1.Mario Miranda +190 x.75
                            +165 x.5
                            +160x.5

                            2.Diaz -185 x2
                            3.Gray Maynard +140 x.5
                            4.Edgar wins by 5 round decision +337 to win one unit
                            +374 x.25

                            5. Nick Osipczak has quickest TKO/KO +800 x.25


                            parlays, all risking .25 units

                            1.Salter +210
                            Florian wins by 3 round decision +235

                            2.Miranda wins by 3 round decision +422
                            Davis wins by 3 round decision +326

                            3.Nick Osipczak -175
                            D.Maia wins in round 1 +255
                            BJ.Penn wins by submission +285
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                            • ddream1
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-18-10
                              • 695

                              #294
                              bol sir
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                              • davie
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 08-06-10
                                • 10

                                #295
                                have to like the ivan calderon fight to go over 11.5 rounds imo, he's classy but doesn't stop people
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                                • illmatick
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 5456

                                  #296
                                  i'll look into it if i have a chance davie, been working on a few plays for the Felix Sturm card next week
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                                  • ufcmma36
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-22-10
                                    • 1065

                                    #297
                                    Like the over 1.5 on the toney fight!! Watch and see
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                                    • illmatick
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 5456

                                      #298
                                      added three small plays

                                      1.Amilcar Alves has quickest submission +1200 x.25
                                      2.Mike Pierce has quickest TKO/KO +1500 x.25
                                      3.Diaz vs Marcus over 2.5 rounds x.5
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #299
                                        UFC 118: Penn rumoured to have trained only three sessions a week

                                        By Gareth A Davies Boxing and MMA Last updated: August 28th, 2010
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                                        The rumour mill has been in full swing at UFC 118 here in Boston this week. The soundings from some areas were that BJ Penn, attempting to regain his UFC lightweight title, had only been able to train three times a week.
                                        Secondary rumours were that he was having difficulty cutting to 155lbs. In fairness, he looked solid at yesterday’s weigh-in. He had Frankie Edgar had a fine stare-down and were a little lost for words when Joe Rogan asked them a few questions after the face-off.
                                        Gareth A Davies joins the ESPN MMA Live crew Jon Anik, Rashad Evans and Stefan Bonnar for the UFC 118 Weigh-in Special from the TG Arena, Boston Click here to watch the show.
                                        It appears that Randy Couture even felt like a two hour workout last night, a sign, perhaps, that he is taking James Toney as an extended training session. Toney looked big at the weigh-in. Big and bulgey. Not good. His cardio will be brought into question within a couple of minutes in this fight, unless he gets the lucky strike.
                                        There are also those pouring cold water on the notion that Toney had been grappling with Mo Lawal, and that it may have been a ruse. Indeed, Lawal, at one point, had said he had been choked out by Toney. We’ll get the form in a few hours.
                                        Major news for the UK relating to the UFC is also forthcoming for this week sometime, I’m told. I have not been party to the details, but I understand it could be seismic.
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                                        • DennisGreen
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-27-08
                                          • 18369

                                          #300
                                          LOL when has Penn actually trained like he should? Pretty much never. I hope Edgar knocks his cabbage patch head off tonight.
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                                          • DennisGreen
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-27-08
                                            • 18369

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by DennisGreen
                                            LOL when has Penn actually trained like he should? Pretty much never. I hope Edgar knocks his cabbage patch head off tonight.
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                                            • illmatick
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 5456

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by illmatick
                                              betting recap for tomorrow, added a bit on on Miranda

                                              1.Mario Miranda +190 x.75
                                              +165 x.5
                                              +160x.5

                                              2.Diaz -185 x2
                                              3.Gray Maynard +140 x.5
                                              4.Edgar wins by 5 round decision +337 to win one unit
                                              +374 x.25
                                              3-1 on my fighter picks..+1 unit, lost all of my long shot prop bets as well as my hedge parlays, Miranda screwed up the perfect night but I'll take the profit

                                              Frankie is the man , unfortunately I expect some value on Maynard
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                                              • ddream1
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-18-10
                                                • 695

                                                #303
                                                well done sir
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                                                • Eccocide
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                  • 2126

                                                  #304
                                                  Good job man. Not a good night for me. Luckily hit the Lauzon quickest sub prop to keep the losses small! Damn those American wrestlers!!! And BJ Penn has no heart I swear - guy didnt even show up last night and tried to use the same gameplan that lost him the first fight...unbelievable.
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                                                  • illmatick
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 5456

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by ddream1
                                                    well done sir
                                                    Originally posted by Eccocide
                                                    Good job man.


                                                    added a few plays

                                                    1.Joe Sotto -105 x.5
                                                    2.Evan Dunham -230 to win one unit ( love this play..plan on adding more)
                                                    3.Melvin Guillard -150 x.75
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                                                    • illmatick
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 5456

                                                      #306
                                                      what a clown, had complete control of the fight

                                                      -.5 units tonight
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                                                      • illmatick
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 5456

                                                        #307
                                                        Boxing play for Saturday...

                                                        Sturm wins by 12 rnd decision -170, to win one unit

                                                        here's my article for the fight
                                                        Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by illmatick
                                                          Boxing play for Saturday...

                                                          Sturm wins by 12 rnd decision -170, to win one unit

                                                          here's my article for the fight
                                                          http://www.sbrforum.com/Betting+Arti...dleweight.aspx
                                                          Good write-up...Im thinking of putting a unit on Sturm by dec as well.
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                                                          • illmatick
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 5456

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                            Good write-up...Im thinking of putting a unit on Sturm by dec as well.
                                                            gl vaughany, I just read that the fight will be televised for free on ESPN tomorrow
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                                                            • illmatick
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 5456

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by illmatick
                                                              Boxing play for Saturday...

                                                              Sturm wins by 12 rnd decision -170, to win one unit

                                                              here's my article for the fight
                                                              http://www.sbrforum.com/Betting+Arti...dleweight.aspx

                                                              line jumped from -160 this morning to -196 after the weigh-ins(both men made weight)

                                                              Vauhgney..does paddypower have the decision prop out for this fight yet?
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                                                              • Trixie
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 03-30-09
                                                                • 199

                                                                #311
                                                                who do you like between bradley and alexander? gotta be a pk
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                  line jumped from -160 this morning to -196 after the weigh-ins(both men made weight)

                                                                  Vauhgney..does paddypower have the decision prop out for this fight yet?
                                                                  Yee its -175 on PP, and -200 on Bet365.
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                                                                  • illmatick
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 5456

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by Trixie
                                                                    who do you like between bradley and alexander? gotta be a pk

                                                                    tough one, as of right now I have a slight lean towards Bradley, but I can imagine much value in playing either of these fighters straight-up, I can't wait to see how 5dimes prices their props for that one

                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    Yee its -175 on PP, and -200 on Bet365.
                                                                    , down to -186 right now at 5dimes
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                                                                    • illmatick
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 5456

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                      Boxing play for Saturday...

                                                                      Sturm wins by 12 rnd decision -170, to win one unit

                                                                      here's my article for the fight
                                                                      http://www.sbrforum.com/Betting+Arti...dleweight.aspx
                                                                      Sturm retains the belt by UD


                                                                      2-0 on my predictions

                                                                      1-0 on my money pick..+1 unit for the day
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                        Sturm retains the belt by UD


                                                                        2-0 on my predictions

                                                                        1-0 on my money pick..+1 unit for the day
                                                                        Gd stuff , I only put a small play on him in a double with Pearson.
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