Boxing/MMA PLAYS

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-11, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

i just recently watched tape and got educated. first i didnt know. I placed a couple of units on voelker. I think its worth a play when the dog is the all around better fighter and have a clear path to victory.

I don't think that Voelker is the better fighter. Bowling has a bigger upside and a bigger future in the sport. Like a lot of guys who have early success he doesn't seem to handle adversity very well. When Voelker tagged him strong and got on top he seemed lost.

This fight will determine whether he has the ability to make adjustments and get that fight out of his head. I think Bowling will pull it off, but its a no bet for me at the current line.

**bjpenn85** · 07-21-11, 02:55 PM

Its not a lock at all, i just wanted to play out of boredom. Its a fight that you shouldnt bet on really, but from what i saw i think voelker have better hands and good enough takedown defense to keep it standing and punish bowler. But bowler is relentless and may steal rounds and win by grinding without a doubt.

**snake11eyes** · 07-21-11, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Voelker lost the first fight pretty handily. He was on his way to winning that last round, but he was losing the fight.

I don't remember this. I remember Voelker winning the first fight which is why I bet him in the second fight at that ridiculous price. I'll have to watch it again though. No denying Voelker won the second fight so at +odds I'm going to play him again. Sort of reminds me of Edgar-Penn.

**NunyaBidness** · 07-21-11, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by snake11eyes

I don't remember this. I remember Voelker winning the first fight which is why I bet him in the second fight at that ridiculous price. I'll have to watch it again though. No denying Voelker won the second fight so at +odds I'm going to play him again. Sort of reminds me of Edgar-Penn.

I just rewatched it yesterday. I think it would be tough to call it a bad decision. I had Voelker in the second fight as well. Every outlet scored it for Bowling I believe.

**rocky mattioli** · 07-21-11, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I just rewatched it yesterday. I think it would be tough to call it a bad decision. I had Voelker in the second fight as well. Every outlet scored it for Bowling I believe.

this gets out of the first round and bowling`s in trouble...i remember thinking bowling was pretty lucky that the first fight ended when it did....against voelker he always starts fast and then peters out...

be curious to see what happens if we get out of the first round....

**sirchadwick1** · 07-21-11, 04:56 PM

I'm in on Voelker at +175. Bowling looks sharp early on, but he fights at a very fast pace... wasting energy on an early finish. The last fight between them was no fluke and I can easily see it going down the same way again. Worth the price.

**bjpenn85** · 07-21-11, 10:23 PM

**illmatick** · 07-22-11, 11:53 AM

added a few parlays

x1.35
Bobby Voelker +160
Miesha Tate +100

x.35
Bowling/Voelker over 2.5 +120
Nazareno Malegarie +185

x.75
Liz Carmouche +160
Miesha Tate +100

x.5
Shawn Jordan +190
Ronnie Mann +110

**Vaughany** · 07-22-11, 11:58 AM

Got Bowlin/Voelkner over 2.5 in a parlay as well, like that one at +120.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 07-22-11, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

added a few parlays

x1.35
Bobby Voelker +160
Miesha Tate +100

x.35
Bowling/Voelker over 2.5 +120
Nazareno Malegarie +185

x.75
Liz Carmouche +160
Miesha Tate +100

x.5
Shawn Jordan +190
Ronnie Mann +110

Woof woof... GL homez

**illmatick** · 07-22-11, 01:45 PM

haha, Adlan Amgov is the only favorite I was thinking about. Just depends on how much further he drops.

Not enough film on his grappling plus the steam on Stalling is tough to bet against, though.

**Vaughany** · 07-22-11, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

haha, Adlan Amgov is the only favorite I was thinking about. Just depends on how much further he drops.

Not enough film on his grappling plus the steam on Stalling is tough to bet against, though.

U seen this? He did well at the NAGA Championships in Boca Raton recently...

**Chairib** · 07-22-11, 01:57 PM

worst picks eva

**illmatick** · 07-22-11, 09:22 PM

hehe.

added 2 more parlays

x.35
Joe Cason +220
Bobby Voelker +150
Tate +100

x.65
Bowling/Voelker over 2.5 +120
Joe Cason +220
Tate +100

**bjpenn85** · 07-23-11, 08:28 AM

30 Units up with voelker woho!!!

**illmatick** · 07-30-11, 09:22 AM

x1.35
Bobby Voelker +160
Miesha Tate +100

Marloes Coenen -110 x4
Marloes Coenen -105 x3

Tate wins by 5 round decision +325 x1.65

Parlay x.75
Tate wins by 5 round decision +325
Tim Kennedy -260
Rory Macdonald -270

parlay x2
Robbie Lawler under 2.5 -180
Rory Macdonald -270

parlay x1
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Tim Kennedy -240

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

**rocky mattioli** · 07-30-11, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by illmatick

x1.35
Bobby Voelker +160
Miesha Tate +100

Marloes Coenen -110 x4
Marloes Coenen -105 x3

Tate wins by 5 round decision +325 x1.65

Parlay x.75
Tate wins by 5 round decision +325
Tim Kennedy -260
Rory Macdonald -270

parlay x2
Robbie Lawler under 2.5 -180
Rory Macdonald -270

parlay x1
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Tim Kennedy -240

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

i agree with kennedy...the guy is very good.....think i`ll also parlay him with a thing or two...

g.l.,partner...

**illmatick** · 08-05-11, 04:13 PM

Don't believe the hype.

Rory Macdonald -230 x4
Rory MacDonald -250 x2

parlay x1
Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
Rory MacDonald -250

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

parlay x1.65
Rory MacDonald over 2.5 -170
Brian Ebersole over 2.5 -180

Alexander Gustafsson -195 x1

parlay x2.75
Alexander Gustafsson -185
Rashad -450

parlay x.65
Nam Phan +175
Johny Hendricks -130

Costantinos Philippou +125 x1.65

parlay x.75
Costantinos Philippou +125
Nam Phan +175

Originally posted by illmatick

Johny Hendricks +105 x1

R.MacDonald wins in round 1 +545 x.5
B.Ebersole wins in round 3 +1500 x.15
Rivera wins by 3 round decision +426 x.65
Hamill wins by 3 round decision +275 x.65

Nick Pace has quickest TKO/KO +2700 x.25
Paul Bradley has quickest TKO/KO +2400 x.25

parlay x1
Alexander Gustafsson over 2.5 rounds -160
Vitor Belfort -300

**Chairib** · 08-05-11, 05:07 PM

That Bradley/Sapo fight could end in TKO for either fighter.

Rory's fight with Pyle worries me. I've got a feeling Mike's going to turn it into a real ugly fight up against the cage.

**Eccocide** · 08-06-11, 11:53 AM

You got a lot riding on Macdonald tonight. I hope my fellow canadian doesnt fail you! GL tonight brother, put that strikeforce card behind you.

**The HOFF** · 08-06-11, 02:14 PM

I really think we'll be fine with MacDonald. I don't think Pyle's win over Hathaway is that impressive. I thought Hathaway was extremely overrated and has no TDD. A win over Almeida doesn't do much for me either. People forget that Pyle got wrecked by Ellenberger and subbed by Larson before that. I think MacDonald might even get a finish here.

**illmatick** · 08-06-11, 04:32 PM

Gl boys, it's almost that time again.

added

parlay x.75
Pace +155
Pyle wins by 3 round decision +544

parlay x.5
Ebersole -105
Costantinos Philippou +125
Mike Brown-220
Rafael Natal +120

**illmatick** · 08-06-11, 08:57 PM

added a few hedges

Hallman -111 x1

parlay x.45
hallman -111
ortiz +235

**illmatick** · 08-06-11, 09:33 PM

Ortiz +320 x.75

**illmatick** · 08-06-11, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

R.MacDonald wins in round 1 +545 x.5

Rory Macdonald -230 x4
Rory MacDonald -250 x2

parlay x1
Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
Rory MacDonald -250

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

Good night thanks to Macdonald. Would have been a lot better if Pace had got the decision. Had Macdonald in round one parlayed with Pace and Ebersole.

**illmatick** · 08-07-11, 08:15 AM

Wins

Costantinos Philippou +125 x1.65
Johny Hendricks +105 x1
R.MacDonald wins in round 1 +545 x.5
Rory Macdonald -230 x4
Rory MacDonald -250 x2
Alexander Gustafsson -195 x1

parlay x1
Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
Rory MacDonald -250

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

parlay x2.75
Alexander Gustafsson -185
Rashad -450

parlay x.5
Ebersole -105
Costantinos Philippou +125
Mike Brown-220
Rafael Natal +120

Losses

parlay x.65
Nam Phan +175
Johny Hendricks -130

Hallman -111 x1

parlay x.45
hallman -111
ortiz +235

parlay x1.65
Rory MacDonald over 2.5 -170
Brian Ebersole over 2.5 -180

parlay x.75
Pace +155
Pyle wins by 3 round decision +544

B.Ebersole wins in round 3 +1500 x.15
Rivera wins by 3 round decision +426 x.65
Hamill wins by 3 round decision +275 x.65

Nick Pace has quickest TKO/KO +2700 x.25
Paul Bradley has quickest TKO/KO +2400 x.25

parlay x1
Alexander Gustafsson over 2.5 rounds -160
Vitor Belfort -300

parlay x.75
Costantinos Philippou +125
Nam Phan +175

around +9 units for the event. I'll total it up later.

Should put me slightly ahead for UFC 133 and the last strikeforce.

**rocky mattioli** · 08-07-11, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by illmatick

Wins

Costantinos Philippou +125 x1.65
Johny Hendricks +105 x1
R.MacDonald wins in round 1 +545 x.5
Rory Macdonald -230 x4
Rory MacDonald -250 x2
Alexander Gustafsson -195 x1

parlay x1
Tatsuya Kawajiri -300
Rory MacDonald -250

parlay x2.75
Tarec Saffiedine -270
Macdonald -260

parlay x2.75
Alexander Gustafsson -185
Rashad -450

parlay x.5
Ebersole -105
Costantinos Philippou +125
Mike Brown-220
Rafael Natal +120

Losses

parlay x.65
Nam Phan +175
Johny Hendricks -130

Hallman -111 x1

parlay x.45
hallman -111
ortiz +235

parlay x1.65
Rory MacDonald over 2.5 -170
Brian Ebersole over 2.5 -180

parlay x.75
Pace +155
Pyle wins by 3 round decision +544

B.Ebersole wins in round 3 +1500 x.15
Rivera wins by 3 round decision +426 x.65
Hamill wins by 3 round decision +275 x.65

Nick Pace has quickest TKO/KO +2700 x.25
Paul Bradley has quickest TKO/KO +2400 x.25

parlay x1
Alexander Gustafsson over 2.5 rounds -160
Vitor Belfort -300

parlay x.75
Costantinos Philippou +125
Nam Phan +175

around +9 units for the event. I'll total it up later.

Should put me slightly ahead for UFC 133 and the last strikeforce.

nice job,ill...had a good night myself...really becoming an ebersole fan....like the guy..he` deserves a shot in the big show and appears to be making the most of it...not a future champ,but an unpredictable action fighter with some fan-friendly flair.......

the kind of guy that`s a positive addition to the organization...

i see a few futures i`m laying in wait for...

again,congrats ...

**Eccocide** · 08-07-11, 10:25 AM

Nice rebound ill!

**illmatick** · 08-07-11, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

nice job,ill...had a good night myself...really becoming an ebersole fan....like the guy..he` deserves a shot in the big show and appears to be making the most of it...not a future champ,but an unpredictable action fighter with some fan-friendly flair....... the kind of guy that`s a positive addition to the organization... i see a few futures i`m laying in wait for... again,congrats ...

Love me some Ebersole. Joe needs to get him on Fear Factor.

Originally posted by Eccocide

Nice rebound ill!

thanks man,

looks like we're both heavy on Charles Oliveira for the next event. I have 4 units on him at -150 as well.

**Ingram$** · 08-09-11, 01:13 PM

They are begging me to straddle my Chuck bet lol.

**illmatick** · 08-09-11, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Ingram$

They are begging me to straddle my Chuck bet lol.

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**Chairib** · 08-09-11, 06:42 PM

I still can't believe how bad Pyle got manhandled in that fight. Good call.

**illmatick** · 08-14-11, 04:07 PM

added 3 more units on charles at -115 and -120.

also added...

Ed herman +125 x1
Jared Hamman +215 x.65
Christmas -110 x1

parlay x.75
Ronny Markes +210
Hettes -430
Cerrone+110
Ed herman +125

Parlay x.5
Herman +125
Charles -120
Joseph Benavidez -270

parlay x.35
Jared Hamman +190
Noke -135
Charles -125

**Vaughany** · 08-14-11, 04:09 PM

GL tonight Ill, let's hope Christmas aka Obama Assassin puts on a grappling clinic!

**illmatick** · 08-14-11, 06:28 PM

grappling clinic indeed! haha

Ronny Markes opens up a nice hedge scenario for me. Vermola just looked bad out there, gassed with quickness.

Added
parlay x.65
Noke -140
Cerrone wins by 3 round decision +240
Jim Miller -155