UFC on FOX 12: Lawler vs. Brown (July 26, 2014)

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  • firekillex
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    • 09-18-13
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    #71
    anthony johnson is going to destroy lil nog, come back next saturday and ill say i told you so...
    lawler win by rd 3tko lawler is way to technical for brown, if brown almost gets tkod by erik silva just watch what lawler is going to do to him... Brown will not be able to knockout lawler, he has an iron chin and will, so basically his only chance of a win is decision or a miracle sub. Brown is good but theyve given him good stylistic matches, lawler is going to crush him
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    • bjpenn85
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      • 02-17-11
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      #72
      Its more risky to bet on a guy you dont know vs a guy you know. You know what you get with lawler, a guy that is solid in all areas, and that has performed well against the champion. Anthony johnson is good, but there is still some questions left. My money is on lawler, youll even get better odds, so..dont know why anyone would pick johnson in a parlay instead of lawler. It doesnt make sense.
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      • MD
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        • 01-31-12
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        #73
        Originally posted by bjpenn85
        Its more risky to bet on a guy you dont know vs a guy you know. You know what you get with lawler, a guy that is solid in all areas, and that has performed well against the champion. Anthony johnson is good, but there is still some questions left. My money is on lawler, youll even get better odds, so..dont know why anyone would pick johnson in a parlay instead of lawler. It doesnt make sense.
        Matt Brown is an excellent fighter. Lawler and Johnson are both excellent fighters. Nog is not an excellent fighter.

        He's probably going to come out looking slow and terrible, get wrecked, and then everyone who bet on him will say "Nog didn't show up".

        Spoiler: he doesn't show up. I'm not nearly as confident in Lawler as you guys are, by the way.
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        • Grabaka
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          • 02-19-11
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          #74
          Brown is the fokkin man
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          • JIBBBY
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            • 12-10-09
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            #75
            Originally posted by firekillex
            lawler win by rd 3tko lawler is way to technical for brown, if brown almost gets tkod by erik silva just watch what lawler is going to do to him... Brown will not be able to knockout lawler, he has an iron chin and will, so basically his only chance of a win is decision or a miracle sub. Brown is good but theyve given him good stylistic matches, lawler is going to crush him
            Iron chin... Hmmmm? Nick Diaz isn't exactly a power puncher either... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkn79Vso_E
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            • Grabaka
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              #76
              Im gonna make a statue of Brown pissing in my pool if he gets the win. Matt "The immortal ATM" Brown!!!
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              • firekillex
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                #77
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                Iron chin... Hmmmm? Nick Diaz isn't exactly a power puncher either... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkn79Vso_E
                that was back in the day, he has much better defense now. Think about all the power punchers hes been facing lately without any problems
                hendricks probably the hardest hitter in the division they stood toe to toe all match, Jake ellenberger, koscheck, even bobby voelker

                watch the manhoef fight and tell me he doesnt have an amazing chin and iron will
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                • Bumdeal
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                  • 12-17-13
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                  #78
                  It's Lawler's 3rd fight in 5 months. How does that factor in? I feel like it's a benefit, he's going to be comfortable in the cage. No rust there.
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                  • Vaughany
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                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #79
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Iron chin... Hmmmm? Nick Diaz isn't exactly a power puncher either... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTkn79Vso_E
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                    • JIBBBY
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by firekillex
                      that was back in the day, he has much better defense now. Think about all the power punchers hes been facing lately without any problems
                      hendricks probably the hardest hitter in the division they stood toe to toe all match, Jake ellenberger, koscheck, even bobby voelker

                      watch the manhoef fight and tell me he doesnt have an amazing chin and iron will
                      I know (10 years ago).. Still he did get clipped and dropped by an in your face fighter like Nick Diaz, Matt Brown fights in your face a bit as well... Just saying....

                      Bleacher report head to head write up on this Matt Brown/Robbie Lawler match up... Some good key points to consider in this read if you have the time or interest to check.....(page 3 grappling)

                      Body shot attack to Mike Brown might be a little over emphasized though in this write up, going all out for the body can leave the chin of Robbie open to be countered.. Not sure Robbie Lawler is a pure body puncher either, he seems like a more natural head hunter to me...

                      This Saturday in San Jose, California, a highly anticipated fight finally takes place in the welterweight division between "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler and Matt Brown...
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                      • Vaughany
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                        • 03-07-10
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        Good point.. Still he did get clipped and dropped by an in your face fighter like Nick Diaz, Matt Brown fights in your face a bit as well...

                        Bleacher report head to head write up on this Matt Brown/Robbie Lawler match up... Some good key points to consider in this read if you have the time or interest to check.....

                        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-toe-breakdown
                        Do u get paid 50cents by bleacherreport for everytime u post a link to their site?
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          Do u get paid 50cents by bleacherreport for everytime u post a link to their site?
                          No personal interest vested - just find alot factual information on their write ups to be helpful which I like to focus on rather then the final opinions and predictions offered up though..

                          I post MMA junkie links, and several other sources all the time on this forum which I find to have valued facts.. I read alot of write ups that come out on these events from several sources other then BR... I don't favor or discriminate against any of the top writers in MMA today.

                          If you don't like the BR write ups you don't have to read them V, I'm not twisting your arm bud...

                          Just remember the more factual information you can gather on a fight, the better chance you will have of picking it right..
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                          • marzwoody
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            No personal interest vested - just find alot factual information on their write ups to be helpful which I like to focus on rather then the final opinions and predictions offered up though..

                            I post MMA junkie links, and several other sources all the time on this forum which I find to have valued facts.. I read alot of write ups that come out on these events from several sources other then BR... I don't favor or discriminate against any of the top writers in MMA today.

                            If you don't like the BR write ups you don't have to read them V, I'm not twisting your arm bud...

                            Just remember the more factual information you can gather on a fight, the better chance you will have of picking it right..
                            Which site do you work for again? did u say you were an MMA writer before?
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              • 12-10-09
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                              #84
                              Originally posted by marzwoody
                              Which site do you work for again? did u say you were an MMA writer before?
                              I did say that.. Paper not site... Just don't like sharing personal information on this forum just yet.. I saw what happen when MD got a hold of THE personal pic...

                              I can only take so much abuse from this forum already and don't need more.. LOL

                              Just turned on the messaging function which I was reluctant to do yesterday... I'm coming around...
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                              • marzwoody
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                                • 01-03-14
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                I did say that.. Just don't like sharing personal information on this forum just yet.. I saw what happen when MD got a hold of THE personal pic...

                                I can only take so much abuse from this forum already and don't need more.. LOL

                                Just turned on the messaging function which I was reluctant to do yesterday... I'm coming around...
                                I thought u shared your articles on here before pal, but never bothered to click them. wasent trying to get you disclose personnal info, but i guess if you did share your articles it would be real easy for people to find out your name etc..
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                                • Keyboard Warrior
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                                  • 06-07-14
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                                  #86
                                  Lol so Matt the immortal who was sitting at 14-11 in 2011 is an excellent fighter but ROger Nog is not? WTF is the shit? I dont want to hear about that stupid ass "depressed" Rashard. Roger Nog beat his ass plan and simple.

                                  I have 2 bitcoins on Roger Nog and will be adding more. That is how confident I am. Cuban Boxing school will be in session and Johnson will be "depressed" after he gets boxed up too. Like his lil bro Rashard. Involved in two of the greatest MMA fights of all time *not a good fighter* shertard logic

                                  PRIDE. NEVER. DIED.


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                                  • Jim_Gunn
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-20-13
                                    • 542

                                    #87
                                    I think Nogueira/Johnson over 1½ rounds at -150 is the best way to bet that fight. I can see either guy winning but probably not by a quick knockout.
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                                    • Rubber Guard
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                                      • 06-22-11
                                      • 1550

                                      #88
                                      I think the odds are all fairly tight. Out of the main card if I were to call any value it is Nog. I mean who knows. Feels like he should be hitting the wall here in no time. He isnt active at all but but never has been.

                                      I could totally see AJ destroying him via being faster and man beast. While Nog has declining reaction time and slower to the punch. I could also see Nog giving an honest effort and landing sometthing clean from the pocket as he isnt afraid to strike like Phil is.
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                                      • marzwoody
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                                        • 01-03-14
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                                        #89
                                        Bermudez vs guida. thoughts?
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                                        • Vaughany
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                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by marzwoody
                                          Bermudez vs guida. thoughts?
                                          Exciting.
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                                          • Keyboard Warrior
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                                            • 06-07-14
                                            • 1290

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                            Exciting.
                                            why do you think I look like a girl? Is it my stunning good looks??
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                                            • Bumdeal
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-17-13
                                              • 3954

                                              #92
                                              Bermudez Guida is going to be a scramble fest. I don't think Guida can keep Bermudez down and then we get to see some bombs drop. I got Bermudez. Was down to -145 yesterday, jumped on that.

                                              Grice Bermudez is still one of the best fights I've ever seen. Bermudez will force Guida to be involved in a fun fight.
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                                              • Vaughany
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                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
                                                why do you think I look like a girl? Is it my stunning good looks??
                                                Haha delayed reaction

                                                i was aroused yes
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                                                • marzwoody
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                                                  • 01-03-14
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Bumdeal
                                                  Bermudez Guida is going to be a scramble fest. I don't think Guida can keep Bermudez down and then we get to see some bombs drop. I got Bermudez. Was down to -145 yesterday, jumped on that.

                                                  Grice Bermudez is still one of the best fights I've ever seen. Bermudez will force Guida to be involved in a fun fight.
                                                  I agree. Bermudez has almost double the strikes per minute compared to guida and i really doubt G can hold him down. Bermudez + Johnson it is.
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                                                  • MarkWoodstick
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                                                    • 06-18-14
                                                    • 221

                                                    #95
                                                    Amazing how guida has beaten pettis, dos anos and nate diaz. I like bermudez and think hes super talented but that long haired scoundrel Guida somehow finds ways to win
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                                                    • marzwoody
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                                                      #96
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                                                      • rocky16
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                                                        #97
                                                        I'd starch guida if he had the balls to accept my challenge.
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                                                        • Thor4140
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                                                          #98
                                                          Robbie has a great kicking game and will barely use it. He could chop Brown to pieces with those kicks but these guys who feel they are great boxers always stick to the Boxing. Brown has a punchers chance but i wouldn't lay anything on him.
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                                                          • Thor4140
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                                                            • 02-09-08
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                                                            #99
                                                            Nobdy gives Nog a shot. When does this guy ever get torched. Johnson isn't gonna just go in there a steamroll him.
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                                                            • mirinquads
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by rocky16
                                                              I'd starch guida if he had the balls to accept my challenge.
                                                              Guida by split
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                                                              • PunisherIND
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                                                                #101
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Bumdeal
                                                                  Bermudez Guida is going to be a scramble fest. I don't think Guida can keep Bermudez down and then we get to see some bombs drop. I got Bermudez. Was down to -145 yesterday, jumped on that.

                                                                  Grice Bermudez is still one of the best fights I've ever seen. Bermudez will force Guida to be involved in a fun fight.
                                                                  Agreed, if this becomes a striking contest it has to favor Bermudez... I gotta bet against Guida and his hair in this one.. Thinking Bermudez by decision..
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                                                                  • CaptChaos145
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                                                                    • 04-03-14
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                    Robbie has a great kicking game and will barely use it. He could chop Brown to pieces with those kicks but these guys who feel they are great boxers always stick to the Boxing. Brown has a punchers chance but i wouldn't lay anything on him.
                                                                    Robbie will kick in this fight cause he's a southpaw and the left kick to the body will be open and Brown is weak in the body. I see the fight ending this way actually.

                                                                    However Brown walks forward and hunts you down and Robbie is not great when he's backing up.

                                                                    for those that thing Robbie has a weak chin cause Diaz KO'd him years ago... That was the perfect punch - on the button, and when you hit someone on the button it doesn't have to be a sledgehammer punch. With that said Robbie was docked against Hendricks and Ellenberger. He hid it well but he was rocked.

                                                                    I'd make a small play on Brown. You have to shell out too much on Robbie to make any $$$.
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                                                                    • MarkWoodstick
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                                                                      • 06-18-14
                                                                      • 221

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by CaptChaos145
                                                                      Robbie will kick in this fight cause he's a southpaw and the left kick to the body will be open and Brown is weak in the body. I see the fight ending this way actually.

                                                                      However Brown walks forward and hunts you down and Robbie is not great when he's backing up.

                                                                      for those that thing Robbie has a weak chin cause Diaz KO'd him years ago... That was the perfect punch - on the button, and when you hit someone on the button it doesn't have to be a sledgehammer punch. With that said Robbie was docked against Hendricks and Ellenberger. He hid it well but he was rocked.

                                                                      I'd make a small play on Brown. You have to shell out too much on Robbie to make any $$$.
                                                                      I think only one soul on the forum would even suggest that Lawler has a weak chin
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by marzwoody
                                                                        I thought u shared your articles on here before pal, but never bothered to click them. wasent trying to get you disclose personnal info, but i guess if you did share your articles it would be real easy for people to find out your name etc..
                                                                        No, I do not share my published articles on the forum and never have.. I mostly write post fight articles anyways which would not serve this forum section any justice.. I have the time to cap, gather info, read most articles, watch vids and even post on this forum leading up to the main events.. As I said before it's part of the job anyways..

                                                                        Not gun shy to share info with all you fools either but I am concerned about this stuff getting back to my employers to be honest.. Could cost me my job that I enjoy very much... Being an influence on a gambling forum and Gambling is in direct conflict with what I do unfortunately..... I can't risk it...

                                                                        I have disclosed on this forum that I do live in LA, California, mecca for MMA, around media, gyms, and fighters alot.. Staples Center and Nokia (MMA media head quarters) is right up the road from me here in Santa Monica....

                                                                        Moving on -

                                                                        I will say this for Bleacher Report though, they do invite writers to come on board and I do think some of you guys posting on this forum have a talent for it outside of the gambling.. I personally did not come up thru the Bleacher Report ranks and I absolutely have no affiliation with them either but I do know someone who worked this program and gained some experience and success from it..

                                                                        Check if you want...

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