UFC 175: Weidman vs. Machida (July 05, 2014)

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  • Keyboard Warrior
    SBR MVP
    • 06-07-14
    • 1290

    #106
    Alexis Davis at Ronda Rousey 2014-07-05 22:00 Over 1.5 Rounds +145 betonline
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    • Domestic
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-10-09
      • 6323

      #107
      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
      Am I the only one that thinks that if Wiedman gets this to the ground; it will be a cake walk.
      After watching recent Weidman fights again yeah, I could see this happening.
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #108
        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
        Am I the only one that thinks that if Wiedman gets this to the ground; it will be a cake walk.
        I think it could be a cake walk on the feet, depending on how Weidman fights.
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        • Wilbo86
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-22-14
          • 753

          #109
          For the record I´m on Machida. Have a pretty bad track record betting machida fights so not confident but i see him taking it if he doesn´t get subbed in the first.

          Also, he is illusive. Seems like no one ever really acknowledges that, through his entire career. And thats my ground breaking analysis complete.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #110
            ^^^Weidman couldn't take Anderson Silva down consistently so what makes you guys think he can take down Machida? Machida is elusive on his feet and keeps his distance and is certainly not prone to being taken down especially now at 185..

            This one stays standing I believe..
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            • MD
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-31-12
              • 9728

              #111
              Originally posted by Wilbo86
              Also, he is illusive. Seems like no one ever really acknowledges that, through his entire career. And thats my ground breaking analysis complete.
              Can't tell if joke, or incredible Freudian slip/Freudian auto-correct.
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #112
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                ^^^Weidman couldn't take Anderson Silva down consistently so what makes you guys think he can take down Machida? Machida is elusive on his feet and keeps his distance and is certainly not prone to being taken down especially now at 185..

                This one stays standing I believe..
                I'm inclined to disagree with the first part, and agree with the second. I think Weidman stands with Machida willingly for much of the fight, and outworks him there. He's going to legkick Machida viciously, and it'll pay dividends. Watch for his body kicks, too, I expect him to be kicking Machida in the body pretty regularly to open up the head kick.
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                • Wilbo86
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-22-14
                  • 753

                  #113
                  Originally posted by MD
                  Can't tell if joke, or incredible Freudian slip/Freudian auto-correct.
                  Genuine error and potentially Freudian. On spanish computers with no english auto correct so every post is a sea of red. Hence my very poor spelling recently.

                  FYI, that whole comment was a joke bra, any self-respecting capper can´t breakdown a Machida fight without at least once mentioning the word "elusive" or some sum of words implying it. In fact i believe the real money lies in the later.
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                  • MD
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-31-12
                    • 9728

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Wilbo86
                    Genuine error and potentially Freudian. On spanish computers with no english auto correct so every post is a sea of red. Hence my very poor spelling recently.

                    FYI, that whole comment was a joke bra, any self-respecting capper can´t breakdown a Machida fight without at least once mentioning the word "elusive" or some sum of words implying it. In fact i believe the real money lies in the later.
                    I know that the rest was a joke, of course, it's just that the joke also makes perfect sense if you sub in the word "illusive". Just wasn't sure if it was on purpose or not.

                    For what it's worth, I heard that Weidman has been training his illusiveness with Antonio Esfandiari for this fight, so he may be able to match Machida there.
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                    • Keyboard Warrior
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-07-14
                      • 1290

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
                      Alexis Davis at Ronda Rousey 2014-07-05 22:00 Over 1.5 Rounds +145 betonline
                      Down to +110. Value is gone, gonna cap the hotdog contest now.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #116
                        More breakdowns with vids to help with the capping..

                        Main card - http://whatculture.com/ufc/5-main-ca...ns-ufc-175.php

                        4 Prelims matches - http://whatculture.com/ufc/4-prelimi...ns-ufc-175.php
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                        • Ron_Paul_2012
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-31-13
                          • 3953

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Wilbo86
                          For the record I´m on Machida. Have a pretty bad track record betting machida fights so not confident but i see him taking it if he doesn´t get subbed in the first.

                          Also, he is illusive. Seems like no one ever really acknowledges that, through his entire career. And thats my ground breaking analysis complete.
                          Good to know Mr. Chuckles McFadeWorthy. Just added some more units on my Weidman play after reading this.
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                          • Wilbo86
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-22-14
                            • 753

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                            Good to know Mr. Chuckles McFadeWorthy. Just added some more units on my Weidman play after reading this.
                            What are you up to know? It was 15 last i read. Serious question.
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #119
                              Pumpin some serious air
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83686

                                #120
                                Machida Journey to UFC 175.. Pretty cool vid.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wzXM-AMO9g

                                I like Machida as a person.. I also like Chris Weidman the Jersey boy as a person as well.. Too bad one will have to lose....
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #121
                                  "If you have a dream, believe,,,,its a possible!"
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                                  • Ron_Paul_2012
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-31-13
                                    • 3953

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                    Machida Journey to UFC 175.. Pretty cool vid.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wzXM-AMO9g

                                    I like Machida as a person.. I also like Chris Weidman the Jersey boy as a person as well.. Too bad one will have to lose....
                                    I want to like Weidman as a person. But I just can't stomach that stupid Jersey accent. He sounds like an 85 IQ dolt when he speaks.
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                                    • PunisherIND
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-24-11
                                      • 4983

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                      I want to like Weidman as a person. But I just can't stomach that stupid Jersey accent. He sounds like an 85 IQ dolt when he speaks.
                                      c'mahhhn you cant tell the difference between a jersey accent and a long island accent?!?
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                                      • PunisherIND
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 4983

                                        #124
                                        Weidman wins by 5 round decision* +328
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                                        • Unwritten Law
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-31-13
                                          • 2532

                                          #125
                                          Machida ITD.
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                                          • Keyboard Warrior
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-07-14
                                            • 1290

                                            #126
                                            Weidman is a gamer like Marz




                                            But Weidman built his own comp. He is not a peasant console player.
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                                            • NunyaBidness
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-26-09
                                              • 9345

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
                                              But Weidman built his own comp. He is not a peasant console player.
                                              I just picked up a Wii U today because I heard Mario Kart is the shit.

                                              Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in.
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                                              • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-31-13
                                                • 3953

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                c'mahhhn you cant tell the difference between a jersey accent and a long island accent?!?
                                                Oops. Actually I can't. It all sounds downy to me.
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                                                • Keyboard Warrior
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-07-14
                                                  • 1290

                                                  #129
                                                  wii u is a great console. Just marketed so bad. Most people dont even know nintendo released it.
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                    • 9345

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
                                                    wii u is a great console. Just marketed so bad. Most people dont even know nintendo released it.
                                                    The original wii sucked so much.

                                                    The mario games are never going to be on PC, whereas every other console pretty much releases their games on PC too, at least the ones I want.
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                                                    • Thor4140
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-09-08
                                                      • 22296

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      ^^^Weidman couldn't take Anderson Silva down consistently so what makes you guys think he can take down Machida? Machida is elusive on his feet and keeps his distance and is certainly not prone to being taken down especially now at 185..

                                                      This one stays standing I believe..
                                                      i seen an elusive Machida get stretched by Shogun. Also seen him get punched in the face by Jones and that is how Jones choked him out. I wonder what all u Machida lovers would do if the odds were reversed. Weidman isnt Badar
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                                                      • Thor4140
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                        • 22296

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        Don't be so sure and quick to call Unwritten Law a fool Rockster.. Machida looks very fast at 185, he could conceivably pick Weidman apart at a distance with his in and out style.. Certainly not crazy to think he can keep the fight standing the entire time and win rounds on points..

                                                        Sure Weidman is the man, grappling and wrestling stud, very good striker with power, younger, undefeated, and we all know he took out the pound for pound champ twice.. I just remember Weidman being picked apart a bit standing by Anderson Silva until he connected..

                                                        I might just play Machida too.. I certainly don't think Machida will be completely outclassed in this fight... Machida looks really good at 185 in his last 2 fights anyways...
                                                        Jibber what the fuk are u smoking dude? I think i saw Anderson hit one Jab and Weidman back step so it hardly even touched him
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                                                        • Tommy Blingshyne
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 12-11-12
                                                          • 821

                                                          #133
                                                          anderson picking apart weidman? no no no...that didn't happen...very much looking forward to weidman/machida...seeing mucho value here...will bet accordingly...
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                                                          • rocky16
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-22-12
                                                            • 1905

                                                            #134
                                                            Some of you phagets can't see what's right in front of you.
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                                                            • Lick496
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 12-07-11
                                                              • 590

                                                              #135
                                                              lots of line movement since yesterday
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                Jibber what the fuk are u smoking dude? I think i saw Anderson hit one Jab and Weidman back step so it hardly even touched him
                                                                California dispensary chronic if you must ask.. lol......

                                                                I already went over this subject with MD, read the posts Thor.... Either fighter can win this one...

                                                                It was the odds being close to +200 which was the ultimate decider for me.. I think the odds should be closer to even to be honest... Machida is no joke and so is Weidman... I'll play the percentages... Kinda liking the over rounds bet more then anything else in this fight..
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83686

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                  I want to like Weidman as a person. But I just can't stomach that stupid Jersey accent. He sounds like an 85 IQ dolt when he speaks.
                                                                  Lol... I've heard worse...
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                                                                  • Pmoney
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 06-19-14
                                                                    • 68

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    Hey, I have fun with you clowns on these threads.. I don't get offended easily either so no worries.. I'm forum battle savy..

                                                                    I just want to break down fights to the basics which helps you pick winners, it's not rocket science.... You do your homework, you do it again. Watch the recent vid fights over again. Read the write ups. You figure out style match ups and go from there.. Figure out a fighters strengths and weaknesses.. Who's durable and who's not for the over and under round bets.. Cardio and not.. Etc..

                                                                    I post link information on fights which seem fan friendly sure.. I personally go back to all the posts in these event threads and put it all together and then place my bets.. I think that helps me win bets. Hopefully you guys get something from it too and win..

                                                                    I said this before - Really decided to join this sub forum community here to understand the betting side of MMA plays more then anything else.. Honest truth...

                                                                    I feel I have always been able to pick em more then not, I'm not up a billion units, I absolutely do lose at times but not so often... I try to stay humble and friendly as always... Not my style to rip on people.. Good karma leads to good luck also as silly as that sounds..

                                                                    I also like that this forum is into charities as well in order to become a pro.. I'm certainly not a pro gambler yet and won't go pro until I feel I'm that.... This is not my main income even though I hope it will be one day.. So I'll always listen to what you guy have to say, including you MD...

                                                                    Thanks fellas

                                                                    Back to the fight please...
                                                                    The Jibster!!!! Jibwizzy!!! Jibrooonniii!!! Going toe2toe with giants! Giving the casual mma better a fighting chance! Long live Wikipedia and Sherdog! Whooooooooo! If you are ever in Vegas, i want to personally invite you to have a bbq on my house buddy. We can talk about Wikipedia and Sherdog capping all day while eating Porterhouse and Tbone steaks baby!!!
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 83686

                                                                      #139
                                                                      ^^^^Man I feel I'm stealing the spot light on these event threads in this forum section.. Not my intentions. Just wanna talk gambling strategies and fight breakdowns..

                                                                      5 hour drive to Vegas for I.... With the online gaming I hardly go anymore.. What''s the point? Do miss the buffets though.. Ellis Island restaurant has the best steak and eggs for 5 bucks too.. Man I really miss that!!! http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restauran...as_Nevada.html Great for a late night stop before shutting it down..

                                                                      Thanks though for the invite Pmoney. I live near the beach here in Santa Monica, Cali, come my way I return the favor in spades.. Post more man... Ya seem a bit gun shy.. LOL..
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                                                                      • Das Jax
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 09-23-11
                                                                        • 904

                                                                        #140
                                                                        An already generous line for Weidman actually improved. It's going to be hard to exercise proper bankroll management for this one. I just cashed out quite a bit, but I'm seriously considering substantially re-upping for this fight. Lines like this are all too rare. I've already said it, but I conservatively cap Weidman at about -500 for this fight (maybe even more). That's not a knock on Machida either... he really is just that good.
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