gotta run, be back a little later though
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He is asking that you take a few seconds and pm him the plays...GL I always enjoy observing other systems...keep it going...Comment -
I knew if I complained the C bet would come thru. I find when you start bashing a team they usually respond. Unreal I cannot believe the cover we got on that SD/Col game. 2-0 day for me with the just playing the C bets. I guess I'll keep doing just that for awhile.Comment -
Hey Wallco, im trying to type on my phone while I drive.. so ill have to be brief.. the majority of the bets for this system are -110 since it is all totals. So A bets will be 1.1 to win 1, B bets will be 2.31 to win 2.1, C bets will be 4.85 to win 4.42. When the system was first posted on Monday, it started with one pending C bet (which lost, so the record shows -4.85 units lost for that loss) and also started with one pending B bet (which won, so the record shows +2.1 for that win).. so add those two series together, and it equals -2.75 units. So then add the 9 other wins to that total, -2.75 + 9 = +6.25. Kind of made things confusing by starting in the middle of two series, but now that those are over it should be a lot easier to keep track of now.Comment -
Haha I do the same exact thing.. I cry and complain waaay to early and can never wait until the gane is over.. it definatley gives our guys some extra motivation lol and yea we caught a nice break of thay SD game, sucks that the exact opposite happened in the philly game (2 out 2 rbi single in the 9th) to kill the under, but I won't cry too much.. id much rather loae an A bet like that then a C bet ( plus it got the phills a nice win
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6/16 Early Action
Philly Under 8 - 110 1:05 EST (B bet)
NYY *OVER* - 1:05 EST (A bet) (Currently closed because of Yankee pitcher, will update around noon)
Detroit UNDER 8.5 -120 - 1:05 EST (A bet)
Pitt UNDER 8 - 105 2:05 EST (A bet)
Milwaukee UNDER - 2:20 EST (B bet) (currently closed at all of the books I checked, will update around noon
A BETS 5-8 (-3.8 UNITS)
B BETS 3-2 (+1.68 UNITS)
C BETS 2-1 (+3.97 UNITS)
TOTALS 10-1 (+1.85 UNITS)
Not too sure where the +6.85 units that dlunc came up with are coming from... I know that some games are -120, and others are -105 or even, but it usually does average out to approximately -110. If I post this daily will it help everyone out?? I hope so
**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals and plays come from 44wager.com so your lines for whichever book you use may be slightly off from mine, but should be in the general vicinity.
Best of luck today!
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Read a few posts above to see where the +6.25 came from.. am i off on (assuming all bets were -110)? I tried to keep the numbers exact, so let me know if I am off at all (-4.85 units for the original pending C bet, +2.1 for the original pending B bet.. so -4.85 + 2.1 = -2.75.. then the other series equal 9 wins.. so -2.75 + 9 = +6.25 correct?)Comment -
OK!Haha I do the same exact thing.. I cry and complain waaay to early and can never wait until the gane is over.. it definatley gives our guys some extra motivation lol and yea we caught a nice break of thay SD game, sucks that the exact opposite happened in the philly game (2 out 2 rbi single in the 9th) to kill the under, but I won't cry too much.. id much rather loae an A bet like that then a C bet ( plus it got the phills a nice win)Comment -
Hey dlunc3 what do you think about Baltimore over 9?Comment -
I am also incuding the units that were currently lost on the series that are still pending and I do not believe you are. Regardless though, the 4.4 units lost on the open series will still put your math at +2.85 which makes us closer.... being off by one unit is not terrible though, so I will keep going with the math I have. Do you plan on PM me the plays?? Or post, than I repost?? The PM would probably relieve clutter and confusion, just a thought.......Comment -
NEWLY POSTED LINES!!!!!6/16 Early Action
Philly Under 8 - 110 1:05 EST (B bet)
NYY *OVER* - 1:05 EST (A bet) (Currently closed because of Yankee pitcher, will update around noon)
Detroit UNDER 8.5 -120 - 1:05 EST (A bet)
Pitt UNDER 8 - 105 2:05 EST (A bet)
Milwaukee UNDER - 2:20 EST (B bet) (currently closed at all of the books I checked, will update around noon
A BETS 5-8 (-3.8 UNITS)
B BETS 3-2 (+1.68 UNITS)
C BETS 2-1 (+3.97 UNITS)
TOTALS 10-1 (+1.85 UNITS)
Not too sure where the +6.85 units that dlunc came up with are coming from... I know that some games are -120, and others are -105 or even, but it usually does average out to approximately -110. If I post this daily will it help everyone out?? I hope so
**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals and plays come from 44wager.com so your lines for whichever book you use may be slightly off from mine, but should be in the general vicinity.
Best of luck today!
MILWAUKEE UNDER 8 - 115 2:20 EST (B bet)
NYY OVER 9.5 -115 - 1:05 EST (A bet)
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Promising start. Good work.Comment -
Great job, guys, thanks for the plays!
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No problem, Let's just hope that the total units stay in the +Comment -
Question for you...are you saying "A" has won 5...but lost 8 times?
If so then 8 games should have gone to B?(you are showing 3-2 for B)
So I believe B should have 8 results not 5!
And C if there were 3 wins in "B" would have to had 5 of those 8 pass onto "C"...
If you are showing "B" at 3-2....that would mean only two games have passed to "C" which several have already gone to "C"...and you show a record of 2-1 so you have to have a minimum of 3 games moving to "C"....for it to be 2-1...Comment -
One of the chases began with a C bet so the C bets are correct, another one of the chases began with a B bet, and that was actually a win, the other A losses that are not accounted for in the B bets are the ones that are currently pending. I will from now on post a recap of the previous nights plays to further clarify things... I can understand how the way I did it, without much explanation can be confusing......Comment -
The only problem down the road if this system survives which right now with a 5 win to 8 loss "A" ratio...it does not look good...would be to have all the plays within the thread...
Because down the line someone besides me will notice the same thing...
But good work uncluttering the clutter and at least having a dollar/unit total that makes sense...Dlunc total obviously made no sense at all..so good work cleaning it up and removing 4- 5 units from the total...when money is involved accurancy is important...Comment -
Gotcha, I will keep doing what I am doing but will post a disclaimer at the bottom of each post. Thank you for your consideration in the post as well as your understanding..... just trying to help allComment -
Damn...you lost the milwaukee game after 2 innings! Seems to be a ton of "C" bets for just a few days...Comment -
6/16 Early Action
Philly Under 8 - 110 1:05 EST (B bet)
NYY *OVER* - 1:05 EST (A bet) (Currently closed because of Yankee pitcher, will update around noon)
Detroit UNDER 8.5 -120 - 1:05 EST (A bet)
Pitt UNDER 8 - 105 2:05 EST (A bet)
Milwaukee UNDER - 2:20 EST (B bet) (currently closed at all of the books I checked, will update around noon
A BETS 5-8 (-3.8 UNITS)
B BETS 3-2 (+1.68 UNITS)
C BETS 2-1 (+3.97 UNITS)
TOTALS 10-1 (+1.85 UNITS)
Not too sure where the +6.85 units that dlunc came up with are coming from... I know that some games are -120, and others are -105 or even, but it usually does average out to approximately -110. If I post this daily will it help everyone out?? I hope so
**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals and plays come from 44wager.com so your lines for whichever book you use may be slightly off from mine, but should be in the general vicinity.
Best of luck today!
Great job, I love the idea of posting all of the A, B and C results, as I would not have the time most mornings to do so. One thing though, I do not think it is smart to show the unit amounts next to each record. I think Wallco has his format down very well, and I think we should model off of it:
Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 94-6
System profit/loss: +26.41 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +6.14 units (79-6) (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-7.00 units)
(6/15/11) Chicago Cubs (-1½) (C) – Loss
(A) 49-48
(B) 20-25
(C) 12-14
(D) 7-6
Games for (6/16/11):
Milwaukee (-1½) @ Chicago Cubs (D) *Official* (2:20 pm EDT)
Much like Wallco's system, this system does not go by individual games, but by series. So just as I had shown in my post, the 10-1 record at +6.25 units, Wallco shows his record as 79-6 since his first post, for +6.14 units. Then below, he goes and shows all the units that are pending (current open series: -7 units). I think by doing that , it makes the record a lot more accurate, since the official record should show only completed series, not just individual games, you know what I mean? Also, since as you know, every book is different, I think we should just use -110 lines for every game just to keep it simple. Some games may +100, or even -120, but nothing more extreme then that for the most part. So by keeping it always -110, it will help us always keep our numbers matching and in order. Over the span of the many games we are playing, things will average out to -110. Since covers or any of the official sites do not show their lines by -105 or -115, I think keeping it at the normal -110 will be safer since every book may be a little differnt... just so that everyone can match up.
Regarding posting the plays.. I sometimes do not receive them until later in the day. Today for example, I expect to recieve more plays for tonight's game. I think it will be easier if I just post the plays on here, and then you can update daily with your A, B, C breakdown. This way, in case I dont get the plays till say 6:00, I wont have to send them to you and then hope you are around to post them by 7:00, know what I mean?
Taken from Wallco's great example, I will be posting the plays as follows from now on. As I said, I will be assume all of the totals are always -110 just so we all stay on the same page. All A bets will be risking 1.1 units to win 1 unit. All B bets will be risking 2.31 units to win 2.1 units. All C bets will be risking 4.85 units to win 4.42 units. Based on this criterea, these numbers are accurate up until this point: Record 10-1. System profit/loss: +6.25 units. Current open series: 3 (-3.3 units).
So the post from now on will look like this:
The Hedge Chase
2011 System to date: 10-1
System profit/loss: +6.25
Current open series: 3(-3.3 units)
(6/15/11)
SD *OVER* - 15:10 EST (C bet) - WIN
Cincy *OVER* - 15:10 EST (A bet) - WIN
Texas *OVER* - 19:05 EST (A bet) - WIN
Cleveland *OVER* - 19:05 EST (C bet) - WIN
SL *UNDER* - 19:05 EST (A bet) - LOSS
Boston *OVER* - 19:10 EST (A bet) - LOSS
Milwaukee *UNDER* - 20:05 EST (A bet) - LOSS
Oakland *UNDER* - 22:05 EST (B bet - WIN
Philly *Under* - 19:05EST (A Bet) - LOSS
Games for (6/16/11):
Philly *UNDER* - 13:05 EST (B bet)
NYY *OVER* - 13:05 EST (A bet)
Detroit *UNDER* - 13:05 EST (A bet)
Pitt *UNDER* - 14:05 EST (A bet)
Milwaukee *UNDER* - 14:20 EST (B bet)
And then after I make this post in the morning, if you would keep track and come in and post the ABC results and ensure my numbers, that will be very helpful, as I know a lot of people only like to bet just the Bs and Cs, or just the Cs.
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Gotta remember though, this system puts out like 6 plays per day, not 4 or 5 plays per week like your system. Also, this system is all -110 juice, not betting heavy favorites the majority of the time. So with those two facts, you have to expect much more C bets then the normal system. The good part is though, even if a game does go to a C bet, you do not have to risk more then 4.85 units (rather then a heavy favorite system where you would easily be risking 15/20+ units easy). The other good part is that say we took a C loss tomorrow... there are normally 5 other plays that same day.. So if a series does lose (8.26 units), that 8.26 units can be made back in no time with the many other plays.Comment -
Gotcha, will do my bestComment -
Here comes Valverde to give up his standard 9th inning run to go over by .5(man his numbers arent bad, but i swear everytime my game is hanging on his shoulders, he coughs it up)...Comment -
Guys, I'm heading to the gym, then I have to go coach my AAU basketball team. My next post will not be as detailed or color coated. It will have the plays as well as the number and the odds, but will not be updated as of these earlier games. That will be done tomorrow morning.... Sorry for any inconvenienceComment -
totals are very hard to predict in baseball. its a good thing that your doing pretty well. goodluck. i might start tailing your plays by the way.
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Yea man.. definately is tough.. So far so good with the system... when having this many plays, C bets gotta be expected... hitting a nice % of them is gonna be the key to success... or failure... Hopefully history repeats itself and the strong backtesting numbers for this system hold true
Might be smart to tail slow and let the system prove itself completely worthy before letting it do any damage.. its made me some nice money so far, so my faith is building quick.. but I still try to stay careful whenever dealing with something new and where money is concerned.Comment -
JM just wants these suckers money...they are clueless following him anyways..the guy is a fraud...Comment -
Yet somehow some IDIOTS keep on paying for his plays...... and all he does is ......... SIT BACK AND SMILEComment -
Stupid astros scored what proved to be a meaningless run in the bottom of the 9th..Comment -
The Hedge Chase
2011 System to date: 12-1
System profit/loss: +7.15 units
Current open series: 4 (-6.71 units)
Games from 6/16/11 (Early Games)
Philly *UNDER* - 13:05 EST (B bet) WIN
NYY *OVER* - 13:05 EST (A bet) LOSS
Detroit *UNDER* - 13:05 EST (A bet) WIN
Pitt *UNDER* - 14:05 EST (A bet) LOSS
Milwaukee *UNDER* - 14:20 EST (B bet) LOSS
Games for 6/16/11 (LATE GAMES):
SL *UNDER* - 19:05 EST (B bet)
Atlanta *UNDER* - 19:10 EST (A bet)
**Plays are on the game totals, not team totals
******Make note: In case you are wondering where the Boston game is.. I received an email saying that the Boston series has been canceled. So we have to take a 1.1 unit loss on this series. This amount has been updated in the total system profit/loss record.
Good luck tonightComment
but this system puts out like 20+ plays per week... so some gotta be expected...obviously, hopefully less then the 3 we have had so far the past 3 days