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  • Dexter
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    • 12-24-08
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    #3431
    Originally posted by lakerboy
    Dex i am surprised to see you using such simple logic. Like no coin said dont you think the books would lose big money if they allowed that arb to take place? they set the line higher than they wanted to for game 1 to get people on the cards. carp didnt even pitch 5 innings last time out or just that. wilson always struggled versus the tigers so that wasnt news. tex is free money this series. taking the dog here isnt wise and the fact they offer up the cards at +150 with homefield tells you all you need to know. i wouldnt be surprised if tex wins in 5 games. gl on your play nonetheless pal
    i never use complex logic or read into lines (in this sport) the way you and nocoin do.
    cj wilson has been on a 2 month downslide. he is one of the more comical world series aces i have seen in some time.

    i was actually shocked to see you laying this juice on a ron washington coached team vs tony larussa. i know you look at coaches as part of your equation.

    if you feel so confident, why such a small play?
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    • Dexter
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      • 12-24-08
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      #3432
      Originally posted by No coincidences
      Why are the Rangers -140 or so for the series -- without home field advantage -- but underdogs in Game 1? Aren't the books setting themselves up for huge arb situations if people take St. Lou before the series but Texas after a Game 1 loss?
      what would the series price be if the cards won game 1 say 4-2?
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      • ebbearsfb1
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        • 12-07-08
        • 18815

        #3433
        Idk much how lines are set.. but if cards won 3 to 2 or something are they really going to drop the rangers from minus 160 to plus money?
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        • No coincidences
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          #3434
          Originally posted by Dexter
          what would the series price be if the cards won game 1 say 4-2?
          I'd like to know. What do you think? Like +120 for Texas?

          I'm not saying anything is guaranteed, but I think the books are trying to get you to gobble up the Cards at a "value" price for the series when, in fact, it's a sucker bet. Kind of feel the same way about Game 1. But that's just my take. I've been wrong before.

          In my opinion, the Rangers take Game 1 and you'll have a better series price available for the Cardinals throughout the rest of the series.

          Up 1-0 in a 7-game series ebb, yes, I think they'd have no choice but to make StL the fave.

          And LTA, the books may have had to install TEX as a fave for the series, but not necessarily at the current price. StL has the homefield advantage and there is really no distinct and overwhelming factor in the Rangers' favor here. I honestly figured StL would be about +120 for the series at worst -- not +140 (or higher, depending on the book).
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          • Dexter
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            • 12-24-08
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            #3435
            Originally posted by No coincidences
            I'd like to know. What do you think? Like +120 for Texas?

            I'm not saying anything is guaranteed, but I think the books are trying to get you to gobble up the Cards at a "value" price for the series when, in fact, it's a sucker bet. Kind of feel the same way about Game 1. But that's just my take. I've been wrong before.

            ).
            you know me....im just one big sucker in this sport
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            • lakerboy
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              • 04-02-09
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              #3436
              Originally posted by Dexter
              i never use complex logic or read into lines (in this sport) the way you and nocoin do.
              cj wilson has been on a 2 month downslide. he is one of the more comical world series aces i have seen in some time.

              i was actually shocked to see you laying this juice on a ron washington coached team vs tony larussa. i know you look at coaches as part of your equation.

              if you feel so confident, why such a small play?

              ron washington has been pressing all the right buttons just like tony but lets not overrate tony. the guy has been swept in the world series two times( one in which his team was a giant favorite). He also lost with the a's versus the dodgers who were perhaps outside of having orel hershiser the shittiest team ever to win the world series.


              i am only laying this juice cause i truly believe that texas will overpower the cards. texas learned last year and this year they will put last years story to rest. this team is determined to correct what happened last year. -150 was my limit and i got it lower than that. the reason it is small is cause of the juice. if i can get a better price later on i will go for it.
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              • No coincidences
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                • 01-18-10
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                #3437
                Originally posted by Dexter
                you know me....im just one big sucker in this sport
                You've had a hell of a year in baseball Dex. I hate betting against you here.

                There's no reason for the Cards to be +140 in this series. None. I have yet to read a single argument in favor of Texas to justify the steep price, especially given the home field advantage and the fact that StL is favored tonight.
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                • Dexter
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                  • 12-24-08
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                  #3438
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  You've had a hell of a year in baseball Dex. I hate betting against you here.

                  There's no reason for the Cards to be +140 in this series. None. I have yet to read a single argument in favor of Texas to justify the steep price, especially given the home field advantage and the fact that StL is favored tonight.
                  whats the public % for the series right now?....not game 1
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                  • No coincidences
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                    • 01-18-10
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                    #3439
                    Originally posted by Dexter
                    whats the public % for the series right now?....not game 1
                    Believe it or not, I actually have no idea for either.
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                    • Dexter
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                      • 12-24-08
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                      #3440
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      ron washington has been pressing all the right buttons just like tony but lets not overrate tony. the guy has been swept in the world series two times( one in which his team was a giant favorite). He also lost with the a's versus the dodgers who were perhaps outside of having orel hershiser the shittiest team ever to win the world series.


                      i am only laying this juice cause i truly believe that texas will overpower the cards. texas learned last year and this year they will put last years story to rest. this team is determined to correct what happened last year. -150 was my limit and i got it lower than that. the reason it is small is cause of the juice. if i can get a better price later on i will go for it.
                      plus tony had roid rage players in his corner...ha

                      but he did win 1 with the cards as well. washington will screw up in the NL park when he has to make decisions.
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                      • Dexter
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-24-08
                        • 25829

                        #3441
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        Believe it or not, I actually have no idea for either.
                        look it up when you get a chance...my work blocks thespread.com which i use for this stuff. im curious who the public is on....
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                        • lakerboy
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                          • 04-02-09
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                          #3442
                          Originally posted by Dexter
                          plus tony had roid rage players in his corner...ha

                          but he did win 1 with the cards as well. washington will screw up in the NL park when he has to make decisions.

                          you are probably right about washington but i think that texas just has a way better team than st louis. dont forget the defense texas displays, can you really see them acting like jerry hairston or corey hart?

                          gl dex and congrats on the big year in bases.

                          are we gonna get some nba this year?
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                          • lakerboy
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                            • 04-02-09
                            • 94379

                            #3443
                            i see 50/50 with the public dex.
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                            • No coincidences
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                              • 01-18-10
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                              #3444
                              Originally posted by Dexter
                              look it up when you get a chance...my work blocks thespread.com which i use for this stuff. im curious who the public is on....
                              I'm seeing pretty split on the ML Game 1, big on the StL RL Game 1, and about 60/40 Texas for the series.
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                              • Dexter
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-24-08
                                • 25829

                                #3445
                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                you are probably right about washington but i think that texas just has a way better team than st louis. dont forget the defense texas displays, can you really see them acting like jerry hairston or corey hart?

                                gl dex and congrats on the big year in bases.

                                are we gonna get some nba this year?
                                i hope not....i wanna keep my money. ha
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                                • Love The Action
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                                  • 11-08-10
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                                  #3446
                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                  I'm seeing pretty split on the ML Game 1, big on the StL RL Game 1, and about 60/40 Texas for the series.
                                  NC is right. As of this morning, SI had almost even ML action for game 1, almost 85% on the over game 1 and over 60% on texas to win the series.

                                  I'm starting to like the under more and more...you know layne is the ump, right?
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                                  • Dexter
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-24-08
                                    • 25829

                                    #3447
                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                    NC is right. As of this morning, SI had almost even ML action for game 1, almost 85% on the over game 1 and over 60% on texas to win the series.

                                    I'm starting to like the under more and more...you know layne is the ump, right?
                                    nope...thx

                                    can only get 7.5 now...will wait
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                                    • lakerboy
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                                      • 04-02-09
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                                      #3448
                                      LTA why would anyone take the under here? Does that ump have a small strike zone? I can see both pitchers getting drilled here.
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                                      • Dexter
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-24-08
                                        • 25829

                                        #3449
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        LTA why would anyone take the under here? Does that ump have a small strike zone? I can see both pitchers getting drilled here.
                                        layne was one of my A4 umps this year. he was 65% and 61% last 2 years. this year hes 55% on the under.

                                        2010/2009

                                        Jerry Layne - 65%/61%
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                                        • supr_villn
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-16-11
                                          • 990

                                          #3450
                                          man forget that umps biz ,,
                                          the play is the god damn play
                                          & the play never fcking changes ..

                                          why can`t u ppl understand that ??
                                          u would bet on 60% ?? 55% ?? lmao !

                                          christ ..

                                          ALL
                                          THAT
                                          SAID

                                          STL ml -120 vs TEX
                                          TEX STL under 7.5 (even)
                                          TOR ml regulation -105 vs WPG

                                          (3)(0.20)(1.23)
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                                          • supr_villn
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                                            • 02-16-11
                                            • 990

                                            #3451
                                            ps

                                            really considering going all out on :

                                            TEX -2.5 gm`s (+250)
                                            & WS under 5.5 gm`s (+160)

                                            series goes STL TEX TEX TEX TEX

                                            not just a fact ,, it`s a lock ..
                                            all u god damn non-believers

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                                            • No coincidences
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                                              • 01-18-10
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                                              #3452
                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                              LTA why would anyone take the under here? Does that ump have a small strike zone? I can see both pitchers getting drilled here.
                                              Ump and weather. If it never moves to 8, I think the under is a play.
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                                              • supr_villn
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                                                • 02-16-11
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                                                #3453
                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                Ump and weather. If it never moves to 8, I think the under is a play.
                                                doesn`t matter what the line moves 2 .. unders ''is'' the play ,,
                                                but as far as pertinence 2 ur statement it will reach 8 eventually
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                                                • Dexter
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                                                  • 12-24-08
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                                                  #3454
                                                  Originally posted by Dexter
                                                  World Series Play:

                                                  (5u) cards +150_i think the fact that the rangers dont have that ace to lean on will make a big difference in this series. HUGE edge in the dugout with Larussa>Washington and i think both offenses are a wash. Both bullpens have been excellent in the postseason so thats a wash as well. I will take the dog with home field advantage.

                                                  Game 1:

                                                  (5u) cards -120
                                                  (3u) under cards 7.5 (A4_Layne)
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                                                  • No coincidences
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                                                    • 01-18-10
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                                                    #3455
                                                    Originally posted by supr_villn
                                                    doesn`t matter what the line moves 2 .. unders ''is'' the play ,,
                                                    but as far as pertinence 2 ur statement it will reach 8 eventually
                                                    It's not going to sniff 8 at the sharp books.
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                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                      • 94379

                                                      #3456
                                                      no coin clear your box guy
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                                                      • hkssupra69
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                                                        • 11-22-10
                                                        • 272

                                                        #3457
                                                        both bullpens have been good in the postseason so far but the Cardinals bullpen during the regular season was pretty bad. Plus add the fact that they'll have to face one extra hitter when it goes to Texas and we might see a regression from the St Louis bullpen. That's my thinking anyway.

                                                        Originally posted by Dexter
                                                        (3u) under cards 7.5 (A4_Layne)
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                                                        • azn624
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                                                          • 06-29-09
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                                                          #3458
                                                          Originally posted by hkssupra69
                                                          both bullpens have been good in the postseason so far but the Cardinals bullpen during the regular season was pretty bad. Plus add the fact that they'll have to face one extra hitter when it goes to Texas and we might see a regression from the St Louis bullpen. That's my thinking anyway.
                                                          The second part does not apply to this game as Cardinals have home field advantage and game 1 is in ST Louis. The under is for tonight's game only and pitchers will be hitting.
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                                                          • cgars1
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                                                            • 01-18-09
                                                            • 657

                                                            #3459
                                                            St Louie and under 7.5
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                                                            • supr_villn
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                                                              • 02-16-11
                                                              • 990

                                                              #3460
                                                              never did hit 8 ,, (but) don't need it ..

                                                              STL 4-1 all gm & STL 4-3 F
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                                                              • Dexter
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                                                                • 12-24-08
                                                                • 25829

                                                                #3461
                                                                its gonna hit 7...wow
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                                                                • Love The Action
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                                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                                  • 10952

                                                                  #3462
                                                                  Good luck Dex!
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                                                                  • Love The Action
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                                                                    • 11-08-10
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                                                                    #3463
                                                                    Nice

                                                                    Good work bud...you're in the driver's seat and you earned it. Are you going to take the free money or ride it out?
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                                                                    • Dexter
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 12-24-08
                                                                      • 25829

                                                                      #3464
                                                                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                      Nice

                                                                      Good work bud...you're in the driver's seat and you earned it. Are you going to take the free money or ride it out?
                                                                      i cant make any in series bets or live game bets....my guys dont have that.
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                                                                      • No coincidences
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                                                                        • 01-18-10
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                                                                        #3465
                                                                        Originally posted by Dexter
                                                                        i cant make any in series bets or live game bets....my guys dont have that.
                                                                        Will you explain why the series price opened where it did Dex?

                                                                        I've been asking around all day and still don't get it.
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